Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread

[mrknowitall215]

as long as Detroit is within a few games of that 8th spot, they will keep playing hard. that alone should keep them out of that bottom 8, at least for a few more weeks.

worst case scenario, we will have a top 1 protected pick from the pistons in 2015, at team that really doesnt look like they will sort out their mess in the offseason. i think that pick would be very valuable this summer if we needed to include it in a trade to get a really good player or two.

I could see the top-1 protected Detroit 1st rounder being used in a deal for Klay Thompson. How would Charlotte fans feel about such a trade?

[Eoghan]

I'd honestly would rather have McDermott than Klay Thompson.

Detroit looks terrible now but if they keep their pick and luck out on a player (let's say they draft Exum and Exum is a better MCW) then they make a very quick turnaround. Plus, I don't like the 2015 draft that much unless Parker and Embiid stay this year. 2015 looks bad IMO.

[MasterIchiro]

I don't get that, Brotherdave. Best case scenario McDermott is Klay Thompson. If there's even a slight chance he's better he'd go in the top 5. I think you take the guaranteed Klay Thompson but there's no way GS takes that deal. Biyombo would have to be added.

[MasterIchiro]

Also if 2015 boasts Okafor, Embiid, Parker and LaVine you can argue the top of the draft is comparable to 2014 or stronger. I think a top-1 protected Pistons pick 2015 is worth more than a top-8 Pistons pick in 2014 simply because they would have to completely reverse course to become a successful team overnight. The odds are really against them.

What happened with Portland was the perfect storm and it's just rare. The Blazers are an exception. The Pistons direction is terrible with Dumars (a Pistons icon) in power and Jennings and Josh Smith on the books, I predict we see more of the same before something significant changes.

[mrknowitall215]

I don't get that, Brotherdave. Best case scenario McDermott is Klay Thompson. If there's even a slight chance he's better he'd go in the top 5. I think you take the guaranteed Klay Thompson but there's no way GS takes that deal. Biyombo would have to be added.

Biyombo does not have to be added. My assumption would be that it would be a multi-team trade where the Warriors receive Detroit's 2015 1st rounder for future cap relief. This might be Charlotte's best chance to trade Henderson, if ever, not to say that it's a necessity, but if Thompson is the return, there would be no reason to keep Henderson pending Thompson's possible lofty contract extension

[mrknowitall215]

FWIW, I don't think the Warriors trade Klay Thompson unless they miss the playoffs this year (which is surprisingly a realistic possibility) or they get embarrassed in the 1st round of the Western Conference playoffs (which is a possibility)

[Liver_Pooty]

As Fats said above worst case scenario we keep the pick for next season. Its an extremely valuable trading chip, and that on top of the Portland pick and our cap room on top of the improvements of our young'ins would bode well for next season. Actually a pretty exciting time to be a Bobcat fan

[MasterIchiro]

You figure if Cho earns his money he can turn that cap space and 2 first rounders into 2 legit players, preferably an upgrade at SG and PF or SG and SF.

[catch20two]

I'm really looking forward to this postseason and offseason. I think we'll surprise people in the playoffs on how competitive we can be and I think Cho will surprise us with what he can make out of our assets and cap space.

[HornetJail]

I'd honestly would rather have McDermott than Klay Thompson.

Detroit looks terrible now but if they keep their pick and luck out on a player (let's say they draft Exum and Exum is a better MCW) then they make a very quick turnaround. Plus, I don't like the 2015 draft that much unless Parker and Embiid stay this year. 2015 looks bad IMO.

I definitely would not, considering Klay is a perfectly capable defender, and is easily the better player right now, with plenty of room for improvement. I would trade anybody in this draft not named Wiggins, Exum, Parker, Randle, Embiid, or Vonleh for Klay Thompson.

Klay's a sure thing to be a lights out shooter that isn't a liability anywhere.

[Eoghan]

I'd honestly would rather have McDermott than Klay Thompson.

Detroit looks terrible now but if they keep their pick and luck out on a player (let's say they draft Exum and Exum is a better MCW) then they make a very quick turnaround. Plus, I don't like the 2015 draft that much unless Parker and Embiid stay this year. 2015 looks bad IMO.

I definitely would not, considering Klay is a perfectly capable defender, and is easily the better player right now, with plenty of room for improvement. I would trade anybody in this draft not named Wiggins, Exum, Parker, Randle, Embiid, or Vonleh for Klay Thompson.

Klay's a sure thing to be a lights out shooter that isn't a liability anywhere.

Klay isn't that good of a defender, nothing heads and shoulders better than McDermott probably. Korver is a lights out shooter, his eFG% is 64.6%. Klay's is 51.4%. We don't even need a particularly good wing defender b/c we have Kemba and MKG, we need a scorer more. Klay sucks inside, Doug has a great inside-out game.

But the big problem is that to get Klay, we'd have to pay top dollar or overpay for him. A guy like McDermott on a rookie contract is way more beneficial than Klay acquired for Hendo/Biz, and/or a pick.

[MasterIchiro]

Those are solid points BrotherDave, specifically the one about Klay costing an overpay.

But again I wouldn't assume (not saying you are) McDermott's game 1)translates to the NBA 2)will rival Klays outside game yet add an inside game

We don't know if he's an inside-outside guy in the NBA. With Klay we know he's an outside guy and that fits our team with Big Al inside.

[Liver_Pooty]

Those are solid points BrotherDave, specifically the one about Klay costing an overpay.

But again I wouldn't assume (not saying you are) McDermott's game 1)translates to the NBA 2)will rival Klays outside game yet add an inside game

We don't know if he's an inside-outside guy in the NBA. With Klay we know he's an outside guy and that fits our team with Big Al inside.

Mcdermott did fantastic last summer playing with Team USA in Summer workouts though. Im confident he will be fine in the NBA.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/7/23/4 ... on-hayward

[Eoghan]

All we need is:

Someone that can hit open shots/threes.
Someone that moves well without the ball.
Someone that isn't a liability on defense.
Someone that understands the value of ball movement.

McDermott ticks off all those boxes, Klay isn't that great at point 2 and 4. Trust me, Doug's game will translate enough to the NBA to be able to do all those things. If **** Kyle Singler can start for an NBA team (Detroit, but still) then McDermott will be fine. He's actually on the short list of players in this draft that can actually contribute from day one.

Doug's inside and midrange game is light years ahead of Klay, seriously, watch him closely. He's like a white, less athletic Glen Rice. We shouldn't over think this, all we really need is someone that can halfway shoot threes. Tolliver and now McBob are looking like snipers on our squad, there's no reason to overpay for someone like Klay.

[Liver_Pooty]

All we need is:

Someone that can hit open shots/threes.
Someone that moves well without the ball.
Someone that isn't a liability on defense.
Someone that understands the value of ball movement.

McDermott ticks off all those boxes, Klay isn't that great at point 2 and 4. Trust me, Doug's game will translate enough to the NBA to be able to do all those things. If **** Kyle Singler can start for an NBA team (Detroit, but still) then McDermott will be fine. He's actually on the short list of players in this draft that can actually contribute from day one.

Doug's inside and midrange game is light years ahead of Klay, seriously, watch him closely. He's like a white, less athletic Glen Rice. We shouldn't over think this, all we really need is someone that can halfway shoot threes. Tolliver and now McBob are looking like snipers on our squad, there's no reason to overpay for someone like Klay.

You ready to start McDermott over MKG if he is selected?

[Eoghan]

All we need is:

Someone that can hit open shots/threes.
Someone that moves well without the ball.
Someone that isn't a liability on defense.
Someone that understands the value of ball movement.

McDermott ticks off all those boxes, Klay isn't that great at point 2 and 4. Trust me, Doug's game will translate enough to the NBA to be able to do all those things. If **** Kyle Singler can start for an NBA team (Detroit, but still) then McDermott will be fine. He's actually on the short list of players in this draft that can actually contribute from day one.

Doug's inside and midrange game is light years ahead of Klay, seriously, watch him closely. He's like a white, less athletic Glen Rice. We shouldn't over think this, all we really need is someone that can halfway shoot threes. Tolliver and now McBob are looking like snipers on our squad, there's no reason to overpay for someone like Klay.

You ready to start McDermott over MKG if he is selected?

Why? No need to. McDermott and MKG are perfect offense/defense complements. MKG is a versatile defender that handles the ball well and McDermott is great without the ball and deadly from the outside, opening driving lanes for MKG.

[Liver_Pooty]

All we need is:

Someone that can hit open shots/threes.
Someone that moves well without the ball.
Someone that isn't a liability on defense.
Someone that understands the value of ball movement.

McDermott ticks off all those boxes, Klay isn't that great at point 2 and 4. Trust me, Doug's game will translate enough to the NBA to be able to do all those things. If **** Kyle Singler can start for an NBA team (Detroit, but still) then McDermott will be fine. He's actually on the short list of players in this draft that can actually contribute from day one.

Doug's inside and midrange game is light years ahead of Klay, seriously, watch him closely. He's like a white, less athletic Glen Rice. We shouldn't over think this, all we really need is someone that can halfway shoot threes. Tolliver and now McBob are looking like snipers on our squad, there's no reason to overpay for someone like Klay.

You ready to start McDermott over MKG if he is selected?

Why? No need to. McDermott and MKG are perfect offense/defense complements. MKG is a versatile defender that handles the ball well and McDermott is great without the ball and deadly from the outside, opening driving lanes for MKG.

So you would start MKG at the 2? I can't see McDermott at the 2.

[HornetJail]

All we need is:

Someone that can hit open shots/threes.
Someone that moves well without the ball.
Someone that isn't a liability on defense.
Someone that understands the value of ball movement.

McDermott ticks off all those boxes, Klay isn't that great at point 2 and 4. Trust me, Doug's game will translate enough to the NBA to be able to do all those things. If **** Kyle Singler can start for an NBA team (Detroit, but still) then McDermott will be fine. He's actually on the short list of players in this draft that can actually contribute from day one.

Doug's inside and midrange game is light years ahead of Klay, seriously, watch him closely. He's like a white, less athletic Glen Rice. We shouldn't over think this, all we really need is someone that can halfway shoot threes. Tolliver and now McBob are looking like snipers on our squad, there's no reason to overpay for someone like Klay.

You ready to start McDermott over MKG if he is selected?

I'd happily play them on the wings together. MKG taking the tougher cover obviously.

[mrknowitall215]

Starting McDermott with MKG is too unconventional for me to even believe Clifford would experiment it. I think it could work, but I seriously doubt it happens if McDermott is drafted by Charlotte

[HornetJail]

Starting McDermott with MKG is too unconventional for me to even believe Clifford would experiment it. I think it could work, but I seriously doubt it happens if McDermott is drafted by Charlotte

It's pairing a great scorer with an elite defender and rebounder. I don't see the problem.