2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II

Liver_Pooty · Post #161 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:25 am

Im about to start "scouting" Lavine. Can someone summarize what I have been missing? I've box score watched lately, and ehhh..

Eoghan · Post #162 » by **Eoghan** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:29 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:I wouldn't rule out trying to improve the PF or SF position in this draft with a pick around 9-10, especially PF. I think Saric is going to be a pretty solid stretch 4 in the NBA.

Aaron Gordons stock isn't exactly rising either.

Eh, Saric is basically a cog in a well oiled machine kind of player. He's still got a long way to go on that shot before he's a stretch 4. Actually, I don't think he can play 4 at all in the NBA.

Here's an extensive write-up I did on him for The Lottery Mafia if anyone is interested:
http://thelotterymafia.com/2014/02/26/dario-saric-the-croatian-stat-stuffer-comes-stateside/

Dude's a baller but unless he goes to the right team we're looking at a Cody Zeller level of impact more likely.

mrknowitall215 · Post #163 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:34 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Im about to start "scouting" Lavine. Can someone summarize what I have been missing? I've box score watched lately, and ehhh..

You haven't really missed nothing yet. He's made a 3-pointer & a tough long pull-up jumper, and he's made a couple of nice passes, but that's about it. I expect for him to be more assertive in the 2nd half, and hopefully lead UCLA to a win without their two leading scorers. If not, I'll be disappointed. However, that won't make me stop disliking his game. I just like the skill sets that he possess for the effortless jump shooting with range, ball handling ability, and playmaking skills

Eoghan · Post #164 » by **Eoghan** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:35 pm

All you need to know about Lavine is that he can carry big blue balls like nobody's business:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdGEVrwu314[/youtube]

Post #165 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:48 pm

If we avoided a sure thing in Jefferson and tanked just to get Randle, I would've been so pissed. I've really enjoyed this season and am optimistic about the future. I'm glad we didn't pin our franchise hopes on landing an elite talent in this draft.

mrknowitall215 · Post #166 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 1:38 am

Julius Randle is officially on my 'DO NOT WANT' list, Bobcats or Sixers

Eoghan · Post #167 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 2:50 am

Question: How high of a pick do you think the Bobcats can acquire by dangling the Portland pick and Zeller?

Post #168 » by **JDR720** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 2:55 am

BrotherDave wrote:Question: How high of a pick do you think the Bobcats can acquire by dangling the Portland pick and Zeller?

15

mrknowitall215 · Post #169 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:24 am

BrotherDave wrote:Question: How high of a pick do you think the Bobcats can acquire by dangling the Portland pick and Zeller?

None, and my reasoning is because no team would even consider picking Zeller in the lottery of the 2014 draft if he could be re-drafted upon viewing his production & translation to the NBA as a rookie, so no team would want to take on his top-5 pick based salary knowing that he's really a mid-1st round talent

MasterIchiro · Post #170 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:52 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:Julius Randle is officially on my 'DO NOT WANT' list, Bobcats or Sixers

Well I think after Parker he's the other gem of the draft.

The dude has post moves, can handle the ball like a guard and is incredibly quick for his size. He's a jump shot away from stardom and his shooting mechanics are decent enough as a foundation for Mark Price to work with.

Want him badly.

MasterIchiro · Post #171 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:54 am

ESPN now has our targets as:

1)Vonleh
2)Saric
3)Harris

There are 2 PF's in there.

I remain hopeful we trade up for Randle.

Post #172 » by **JDR720** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:06 am

MasterIchiro wrote:ESPN now has our targets as:

1)Vonleh
2)Saric
3)Harris

There are 2 PF's in there.

I remain hopeful we trade up for Randle.

Saric is a SF in the NBA, he is too small to be PF, and we wont trade up for Randle he is a top 5 pick and we won't trade the assets needed to get into top 5

Post #173 » by **JDR720** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:07 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Julius Randle is officially on my 'DO NOT WANT' list, Bobcats or Sixers

Well I think after Parker he's the other gem of the draft.

The dude has post moves, can handle the ball like a guard and is incredibly quick for his size. He's a jump shot away from stardom and his shooting mechanics are decent enough as a foundation for Mark Price to work with.

Want him badly.

you just described what Zeller was in college basically

MasterIchiro · Post #174 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:09 am

JDR720 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Julius Randle is officially on my 'DO NOT WANT' list, Bobcats or Sixers

Well I think after Parker he's the other gem of the draft.

The dude has post moves, can handle the ball like a guard and is incredibly quick for his size. He's a jump shot away from stardom and his shooting mechanics are decent enough as a foundation for Mark Price to work with.

Want him badly.

you just described what Zeller was in college basically

Randle is much stronger, much thicker, much sturdier, much quicker and a much much much better ball handler, but ok.

Eoghan · Post #175 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:15 am

Randle is a way better prospect than Zeller. And yeah, Saric is definitely a SF in the NBA. He's a risky pick.

mrknowitall215 · Post #176 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:24 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Julius Randle is officially on my 'DO NOT WANT' list, Bobcats or Sixers

Well I think after Parker he's the other gem of the draft.

The dude has post moves, can handle the ball like a guard and is incredibly quick for his size. He's a jump shot away from stardom and his shooting mechanics are decent enough as a foundation for Mark Price to work with.

Want him badly.

He shot 1-for-7 today in a loss to the unranked Gamecocks, basically got owned by a backup C from Lithuania. I went into this collegiate season thinking Randle could be the better prospect out himself, Wiggins, & Parker, but he's not. It'll take Randle a while to become a impact player in the NBA, considering his porous defense & lack of offensive awareness right now. I believe he'll get better offensively since he has the versatility, but he'll never be a good defender from what I've seen

MasterIchiro · Post #177 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:42 am

Very few of these kids play the game right on both sides of the ball but look at what Clifford has done with Big Al who supposedly had the same "porous" reputation. Good coaching and systems approach matters. All Randle has to do is match McRoberts or Cody in the system. He's got plenty enough raw talent and size to do that on defense, to get to his spot. Randle just needs to blossom in the right system.

And his game on offense is tantalizing. I wish it were Randle but again, I think Cho and company prefer Vonleh + the Blazers pick.

HornetJail · Post #178 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:48 am

BrotherDave wrote:Question: How high of a pick do you think the Bobcats can acquire by dangling the Portland pick and Zeller?

15-ish?

mrknowitall215 · Post #179 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:56 am

MasterIchiro wrote:I think Cho and company prefer Vonleh + the Blazers pick.

I would prefer Vonleh + Blazers pick too

Vonleh isn't a sexy pick, but he has a better overall game than Randle. Semantically, I'd rather have the guy compared to Chris Bosh than the guy compared to Zach Randolph

catch20two · Post #180 » by **catch20two** » Sun Mar 2, 2014 7:36 am

I just found out that Randle's wingspan is only 6-10.

I don't know if that ZBo comp can stick since Zbo has a 7-4 wingspan.