Otto Porter

[Induveca]

Would like to hear from Induveca after tonight's showing...

Speaks like such an authority on Porter.

Changes nothing. Chris Singleton has made a few threes in multiple games.

Porter is on pace to play the least minutes of a number 3 pick in the history of the NBA......until that changes he's beyond a disappointment.

Keep it up over the next 2 months, I'll happily admit I was wrong. Until then, two shots are two shots.

Want to make it clear,.obviously I hope he pulls a Beal from last year and suddenly the switch flips. Would make us a much better team. I'm just not hopeful.

[jeffsays]

I'm starting to wonder about randy's rotations. Players seem to go from getting solid playing time to falling off like they were jordan crawford 2.0. Personally, I think that Randy is to blame for Otto's stunted growth. He should have gotten a solid 10 minutes per game, but instead he's stuck with DNP.

[fishercob]

I enjoyed last night's episode of Small Sample Size Theatre.

Otto's two threes were in rhythm and looked good going in. His length and defensive instincts were also on display in denying Conley the ball late.

I expect some sustained production from Otto once he gets his confidence rolling. Hopefully that's soon.

[montestewart]

And they were both difficult and clutch shots.

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

Would like to hear from Induveca after tonight's showing...

Speaks like such an authority on Porter.

Changes nothing. Chris Singleton has made a few threes in multiple games.

Porter is on pace to play the least minutes of a number 3 pick in the history of the NBA......until that changes he's beyond a disappointment.

Keep it up over the next 2 months, I'll happily admit I was wrong. Until then, two shots are two shots.

Want to make it clear,.obviously I hope he pulls a Beal from last year and suddenly the switch flips. Would make us a much better team. I'm just not hopeful.

I think you're focusing way too much on minutes and where Otto Porter ranks with other players selected where he was, simply because you believe the selection was a bad one. It's almost as if you're intentionally pretending to lack knowledge of his injury situation, the depth chart, and how Randy Wittman operates just to give life to your bleak outlook on Porter.

Barring injury or a complete falling off of a player, Wittman isn't going to incorporate anyone into the rotation who doesn't offer something substantially greater than those already in rotation. Porter had two important, quality players, ahead of him.

Porter being thrust into the lineup on the merit of being picked third overall in the draft on a team filled with so many respectable veteran names battling for continuity, respectability, and a playoff spot wasn't going to just happen. That's what we wanted to happen... but that's not how Wittman moves. You know that.

Porter's lack of minutes aren't due to lack of skill, it perhaps is due to not being fully up to speed with the other guys and having two guys ahead of him on the depth chart (something Beal and Wall didn't have to worry about as top five selections).

I understand you don't like Porter's selection, but I think you're intentionally disregarding the circumstances that have limited Porter's services.


*Porter has a much more fluid and natural shot than Singleton. Day and night difference.

[Dark Faze]

Porter continuing to show what I've always seen in the small sample size - strong defensive instincts, Ariza like ability to disrupt passing lanes. The only thing that's been missing is his offense and we got a sneak peak of that last night.

I've maintained this all along but he was the second best prospect on my list after Noel and I haven't seen anything that changes my mind on that.

[fishercob]

By the minutes played measure, Blake Griffin was a pretty colossal bust of a #1 overall pick -- until he wasn't.

[DCZards]

I think you're focusing way too much on minutes and where Otto Porter ranks with other players selected where he was, simply because you believe the selection was a bad one. It's almost as if you're intentionally pretending to lack knowledge of his injury situation, the depth chart, and how Randy Wittman operates just to give life to your bleak outlook on Porter.

Yeah, declaring Porter a bust without taking into account his circumstances is silly. No training camp, no preseason, no playing time. Those things matter.

[Higga]

Give Porter a chance. I mean he can't be worse than Singleton.

[manifested]

Barring injury or a complete falling off of a player, Wittman isn't going to incorporate anyone into the rotation who doesn't offer something substantially greater than those already in rotation. Porter had two important, quality players, ahead of him.

It's possible this scenario is now playing out. Webster really hadn't looked like himself for awhile and finally sat down. His back was the reason he was so cheap when he came here and it flared up last season as well IIRC. Let's hope he gets that taken care of. Webster's the best shooter on this team when he's healthy. The fact it's his back again is worrying for the future (especially with Ariza expiring).

Otto looked decent out there with the exception of an ugly pump fake drive pullup jumper. The most encouraging thing was to see his reaction after the second three. Hopefully, he'll be able to build on it and find a rhythm.

[nuposse04]

probably the best part was Ariza's reaction. He seemed legitimately hyped and happy for the kid, which is great coming from a veteran who is in awkward situation regarding the SF position next season.

Hopefully Porter shows more and we can explore the possibility of trading Webster for a backup big.

[jeffsays]

Give Porter a chance. I mean he can't be worse than Singleton.

After he made that open three, he jumped miles ahead of Singleton. I'll never forget that Milwaukee game where Chris blew a wide open three to win the game.

[jivelikenice]

Would like to hear from Induveca after tonight's showing...

Speaks like such an authority on Porter.

Changes nothing. Chris Singleton has made a few threes in multiple games.

Porter is on pace to play the least minutes of a number 3 pick in the history of the NBA......until that changes he's beyond a disappointment.

Keep it up over the next 2 months, I'll happily admit I was wrong. Until then, two shots are two shots.

Want to make it clear,.obviously I hope he pulls a Beal from last year and suddenly the switch flips. Would make us a much better team. I'm just not hopeful.

Beal was basically given a starting spot; Otto wasn't and is playing behind two vets who have to be in the rotation. The switch can't flip from the bench.

Otto is going to be solid. His range isn't an issue. He shoots with a ton of arc and just needs experience from the line. The concerns with his athleticism are also overblown. He could abviously get stronger, but he doesn't like a step behind everyone on the court and his length will also help him out. He also looks like he's taller....I wonder if he's grown since the draft.

Lastly, his 2nd three showed a lot mentally. He hasn't been playing, we clawed back in the game, but he didn't hesitate taking a BIG shot late in a close game. A lot of mental toughness and confidence there....

I've been going in this direction but I'll just say again that I would re-sign Ariza, mvoe Webster this offseason, and would give those 25-30 mpg to Otto.

[jivelikenice]

Give Porter a chance. I mean he can't be worse than Singleton.

After he made that open three, he jumped miles ahead of Singleton. I'll never forget that Milwaukee game where Chris blew a wide open three to win the game.

Singleton at the 3 is comical. At the 4, I can stomach it for a few minutes because the floor opens a bit, but he's terrible at the 3. Its tough to criticize Randy based on how the team has been playing, but he deserved it for playing Singleton at the 3 yesterday.

[dobrojim]

probably the best part was Ariza's reaction. He seemed legitimately hyped and happy for the kid, which is great coming from a veteran who is in awkward situation regarding the SF position next season.

Hopefully Porter shows more and we can explore the possibility of trading Webster for a backup big.

I like TA's reaction as well. Classy and the absolute right response for a team player.

Would we be better trading Webster for a big, assuming we could get someone worthwhile
in return, or just getting a coach who will put TA or even OP at the 4. Obviously TA has an
abundance of experience that OP lacks, but their physiques are not dissimilar. Defensively,
the potential appears make possible the idea of interchangeability btw the 2.

[nuposse04]

probably the best part was Ariza's reaction. He seemed legitimately hyped and happy for the kid, which is great coming from a veteran who is in awkward situation regarding the SF position next season.

Hopefully Porter shows more and we can explore the possibility of trading Webster for a backup big.

I like TA's reaction as well. Classy and the absolute right response for a team player.

Would we be better trading Webster for a big, assuming we could get someone worthwhile
in return, or just getting a coach who will put TA or even OP at the 4. Obviously TA has an
abundance of experience that OP lacks, but their physiques are not dissimilar. Defensively,
the potential appears make possible the idea of interchangeability btw the 2.

Ariza will be on a new contract in that situation I suppose, and while I fully think he is capable of giving us minutes as a stretch 4, I'd rather try to acquire a "full time" one. I don't want Ariza consistently battling with 4s seasons long unless he absolutely has to, or if we lower his minutes overall. Maybe Frye will opt out? Go after Ersan if at all possible...even Marvin Williams/Earl Clark.

I like webster, he's an overall good player, but he's redundant if we retain Ariza, which is unfortunate.

[jeffsays]

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Maybe it means more playing time for Otto?

[fishercob]

probably the best part was Ariza's reaction....

Particularly given the fact that Ariza hits 8 three's in a game and his expression never changes. As a fan, it's great to see teammates delighting in each other's triumphs.

[hands11]

Great reaction from TA. That's awesome.

PS

Hey Fish. Better add "Official" to the thread title or Knight is going to swoop in and snag your glory.

But will it be an "Official Appreciation" thread or just and "Official" thread ?

I wonder.

[Induveca]

If love for Ariza to stick around and be a mentor, maybe more small ball with Arias at PF. The guy fits perfectly next to Wall. And he's half Dominican.