2014 NBA Free Agency Thread - League Realignment

[hands11]

Lots on names on the market

2014 List. That's one hell of a list. We could really see a shake up this summer.
http://hoopshype.com/free_agency_2014.htm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... Until-2015

So Melo is hitting the street. Not surprised.

I still say first it depends on Bosh in Miami. If he leaves, Melo might go there. Then that leaves Bosh as a target which the Wizards should position themselves to get. But it really starts with LeBron. All eyes will be on Miami. Wade I don't expect will go anywhere. Depends on if they win another title and what Wade will take. Dude is still scoring 20 pts a game on .555 shooting and a career high .596 TS Lots of teams would take a part time Wade.

LAC are kind of stuck unless they trade CP3. Dude is good but way to expensive. 20M for a PG
They have peaks. Better make some noise this year. If not, they need to transition to Griffin as their best player and reload.

Melo could land in Chi if they amnesty Boozier, that seems like a place for him. D Rose and Melo, Noah would be tough. Then that adds Bozier to the list.

Dallas also has the caps to get him. Seems like a Dallas move. Dirk, Ellis, Melo. Pretty nasty. But who plays center and who defends ?

Then there is LAL. Doesn't seem like a natural marriage. Kobe, Melo, Gasol ?

Going to be a interesting summer of big names that can move that would realign the league.
Bosh, Melo. Maybe LeBron. You know the Laker are getting one of them.

Kobe, Gasol and ?

Man, if Love leaves MEM in 2015, they are going to suck again. I would keep my eye on a Nikola Pekovic for Nene trade down the road.

[verbal8]

Lots on names on the market

2014 List.
http://hoopshype.com/free_agency_2014.htm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... Until-2015

So Melo is hitting the street. Not surprised.

I still say first it depends in Bosh in Miami. If he leaves, Melo might go there. Then that leaves Bosh as a target which the Wizards should position themselves to get.

I agree that a lot of free agency depends on Bosh. Bosh leaving could cause LeBron to leave which drastically changes the NBA. Bosh/LeBron leaving is the only scenario where I see Melo goes to Miami. Most likely if Bosh leaves, they try to replace him with multiple players around Wade/LeBron.

Or Melo could end up with the LAC. Though not sure how that would happen with their cap.

Or is Chi ops out of Boozier, that seems like a place for him. D Rose and Melo would be tough.

A big risk, but Melo giving defensive effort at PF and a healthy Rose could make them contenders.

Dallas also has the caps to get him. Seems like a Dallas move. Dirk, Ellis, Melo. Pretty nasty.

I think Dallas is more likely to go for Bosh, although he may prefer not to play Center.

Then there is LAL. Doesn't seem like a natural marriage. Kobe, Melo, Gasol ?

I doubt Gasol takes a below market contract to play with overpaid Kobe and Melo. If he goes on below market deal it will be to Memphis, Dallas or the Wizards(j/k on the Wizards).

Going to be a interesting summer of big names that can move that would realign the league.
Bosh, Melo, and Love. Maybe LeBron. You know the Laker are getting one of them.

Love is not a free agent.

Kobe, Gasol and ?

I don't see Gasol staying on a small enough contract to add a huge free agent.

Man, if Love leaves MEM, they are going to suck again. I would keep my eye on a Nikola Pekovic for Nene trade down the road.

Although MEM drafted him, Love plays for MIN.

[hands11]

So here is most the list.

Usually, not as much movement happens as people would think but if it does, its going to be big news.

LeBron - Maybe he leaves if they don't win a title. Maybe
Bosh - may leave even if they do win a title. Maybe
Wade - Hard to see him leaving Miami but if LeBron leaves and they don't land a big name, maybe
Melo - he isn't staying in NY. Thats the big news right now.
Gasol - I think he stays LA and they add a name from above. Kobe, Gasol and ?
Boozier - Will be a UFA if clears waivers but someone will likely gobble him up. Highly rumors to get moved.
Greg Monroe - hard to get excited about him with all those other big targets but if other don't move.
Dirk - He isn't going anyway. Will retired in Dallas. I hoped to get him but they reloaded. Dirk, Ellis and ?
Isaiah Thomas - Will be leave SAC ? Actually a huge target that might not get talked about a lot right now.

Deng - CLE has to resign him or they got screwed.
G Haywood - would look nice in a Wizards Uni
Lance
Patrick Patterson QO 4,319,473 TOR
Turner - would play the Iggy role on a good team. If he lands on one, probably only for MLE.
Gay - he is taking the player option. No way he gives up the last big 19M he will ever see.
Spencer Hawes - will he stay in CLE. If so, Kyrie, Deng and Hawes is a decent core. But not great.
AK47 - they saw he is worth more the 3M. I say not much more.
Rodney Stuckey
Granger- LAC should go all in to resign him and blow to cap. Go for it.
Thabo Sefolosha
Chris Kaman - CAVEMAN
Kris Humphries - I would take him on the team for as a back up. He has to be gone from Boston.
Emeka Okafor - I would love to have him back at the vet Min for one year.

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

Had me at:

29. Nick Young---Trigger-happy guard...



Lost me at:

30. Trevor Ariza--- Subpar offensive player.

[verbal8]

Boozier - Sounds like he will be a UFA after clearing waivers.

He won't clear amnesty waivers. I am certain the Mavs will put a bid in on him. The Wizards could if they conditionally renounce Ariza or Gortat.

[gesa2]

Boozier - Sounds like he will be a UFA after clearing waivers.

He won't clear amnesty waivers. I am certain the Mavs will put a bid in on him. The Wizards could if they conditionally renounce Ariza or Gortat.

Can we put an amnesty bid in using an over the cap exception? for how much?

[verbal8]

Boozier - Sounds like he will be a UFA after clearing waivers.

He won't clear amnesty waivers. I am certain the Mavs will put a bid in on him. The Wizards could if they conditionally renounce Ariza or Gortat.

Can we put an amnesty bid in using an over the cap exception? for how much?

No, but renouncing Gortat or Ariza will clear some cap space. I think with the amnesty bid, the renouncement technically doesn't happen until the bid is accepted.

With a restricted free agent, if the offer is matched the renouncement is undone and Bird-rights to the player(and the cap hold) are restored.

[FAH1223]

I think Pau Gasol leaves LAL since they have dangled him in trades the last couple of years.

He made statements earlier in the year that he is thinking about playing with his brother and going back to MEM.

That would be very interesting...The thing is, would Pau defend? His defense has fallen off a cliff since D'Antoni came in but it was fine with Mike Brown and Phil Jackson. Might be a lack of effort since hates D'Antoni.

Carmelo has to leave New York if he wants to win.

[nate33]

I think it's a really weak free agency class.

Lebron, Wade, Dirk, Duncan, Gay, Stephenson and Bledsoe aren't going anywhere. I think it's highly unlikely that Bosh goes anywhere either. That leaves just Melo as the only superstar free agent.


There are only a handful of free agents who are good, reasonably young, and definitely a possibility to change teams. Unfortunately, most of them are probably going to get overpaid:

Isaiah Thomas
Hayward
Monroe
Ariza
Gortat
Lowry
Deng

After that, there's a bunch of quality backups/borderline starters who won't change the fortunes of any franchise but could help with depth. Guys like: Hawes, Bradley, Mo Williams, Stuckey, Frye, Kaman, Davis, Thabo, Okafor, Hill, Blatche, and Beasley. The trick here is to wait and see which guys slip through the cracks and can be bought for cheap.

There are a couple of still-hanging-on vets that could legitimately help a team for the next year or two. I'm thinking of Pau Gasol, Randolph and maybe Paul Pierce. On a 1-year or 2-year deal, they could make sense.

[jeffsays]

If we could get Bosh, it would be huge for this team, but then you would have Nene complaining about not having a true center to go at it with other big centers. Not that I would care. Having a stretch five for John would be huge. Even if he is older.

[FAH1223]

I think it's a really weak free agency class.

Lebron, Wade, Dirk, Duncan, Gay, Stephenson and Bledsoe aren't going anywhere. I think it's highly unlikely that Bosh goes anywhere either. That leaves just Melo as the only superstar free agent.


There are only a handful of free agents who are good, reasonably young, and definitely a possibility to change teams. Unfortunately, most of them are probably going to get overpaid:

Isaiah Thomas
Hayward
Monroe
Ariza
Gortat
Lowry
Deng

After that, there's a bunch of quality backups/borderline starters who won't change the fortunes of any franchise but could help with depth. Guys like: Hawes, Bradley, Mo Williams, Stuckey, Frye, Kaman, Davis, Thabo, Okafor, Hill, Blatche, and Beasley. The trick here is to wait and see which guys slip through the cracks and can be bought for cheap.

There are a couple of still-hanging-on vets that could legitimately help a team for the next year or two. I'm thinking of Pau Gasol, Randolph and maybe Paul Pierce. On a 1-year or 2-year deal, they could make sense.

Rudy Gay and Zbo definitely won't opt out of their contracts. They're making $19 and $17 million respectively in the final years of their deals.

It'd be interesting if Pau goes to MEM... a big man trio rotation of Gasol-Randolph-Gasol with a guy like Pondexter coming back as another 3 & D point shooter they desperately need would be very interesting The Courtney Lee and James Johnson additions have already been huge for them.

[verbal8]

I think it's a really weak free agency class.
Lebron, Wade, Dirk, Duncan, Gay, Stephenson and Bledsoe aren't going anywhere. I think it's highly unlikely that Bosh goes anywhere either. That leaves just Melo as the only superstar free agent.

Do you think Gay will opt in? I think SAC may pay Thomas and let Gay walk if they have to choose.

An upset in the 1st or even 2nd round could really shake things up in Miami. Wade is staying. A trip to the finals probably keeps the Heatles together.

If Bosh wants to join the Wizards, I think it is worth letting Ariza and Gortat walk. Another alternative might be a S&T for Webster(or even Ariza) and Nene. That might give Miami enough supporting cast to keep LeBron. I think moving Nene would let the Wizards keep Gortat and a starting SF(either Webster or Ariza).

[dobrojim]

or if there is to be any re-alignment, will it be a result of the upcoming
draft class? Hopes were extremely high before the college season that
this year's class would have a bunch of potential franchise talent.
I'm not sure those opinions have not been tempered somewhat.

Interesting that last I looked at DX, they moved Wiggins
down and had Imbiid at #1. Not sure how much that has
to do with Wiggins perhaps not living up to the sky-high
expectations that were out there or just more folks recognizing
that Imbiid could be the best C prospect in a number of years.

Assuming the top 4-5 picks do come in and perform well next
year, most of them are more likely to go to EC teams. That doesn't
scare me that much since many of these teams are just flat out
horrible right now. But in 2-5 years? IDK.

[FAH1223]

Do you think Gay will opt in? I think SAC may pay Thomas and let Gay walk if they have to choose.

An upset in the 1st or even 2nd round could really shake things up in Miami. Wade is staying. A trip to the finals probably keeps the Heatles together.

If Bosh wants to join the Wizards, I think it is worth letting Ariza and Gortat walk. Another alternative might be a S&T for Webster(or even Ariza) and Nene. That might give Miami enough supporting cast to keep LeBron. I think moving Nene would let the Wizards keep Gortat and a starting SF(either Webster or Ariza).

He's not walking from $19 million guaranteed. It's a player option.

Wouldn't be awesome if the Wiz beat the Heat and ended the Big 3 era... in Round 2

[verbal8]

Do you think Gay will opt in? I think SAC may pay Thomas and let Gay walk if they have to choose.

An upset in the 1st or even 2nd round could really shake things up in Miami. Wade is staying. A trip to the finals probably keeps the Heatles together.

If Bosh wants to join the Wizards, I think it is worth letting Ariza and Gortat walk. Another alternative might be a S&T for Webster(or even Ariza) and Nene. That might give Miami enough supporting cast to keep LeBron. I think moving Nene would let the Wizards keep Gortat and a starting SF(either Webster or Ariza).

He's not walking from $19 million guaranteed. It's a player option.

Wouldn't be awesome if the Wiz beat the Heat and ended the Big 3 era... in Round 2

It might be worth suffering through the EG extension.

[LyricalRico]

Re: Bosh - I think Bosh stays if LeBron stays. I don't think he goes from a complementary player competing for titles to a primary option that goes nowhere, and I doubt anybody offers him drastically more than Miami will.

Re: League realignment - Speaking in pure NBA2k15 fantasy, wouldn't it be cool if a team like Philly did the improbable and shook things up by signing a combo like Melo/Bosh (notwithstanding what I posted above)?

Noel
Bosh
Melo
2014 first
MCW

Based on the current state of the East, you'd have to give that team a legit shot IMO.

[Nivek]

Isn't this thread a less detailed version of the thread Dat started a few days ago?

[hands11]

Do you think Gay will opt in? I think SAC may pay Thomas and let Gay walk if they have to choose.

An upset in the 1st or even 2nd round could really shake things up in Miami. Wade is staying. A trip to the finals probably keeps the Heatles together.

If Bosh wants to join the Wizards, I think it is worth letting Ariza and Gortat walk. Another alternative might be a S&T for Webster(or even Ariza) and Nene. That might give Miami enough supporting cast to keep LeBron. I think moving Nene would let the Wizards keep Gortat and a starting SF(either Webster or Ariza).

He's not walking from $19 million guaranteed. It's a player option.

Wouldn't be awesome if the Wiz beat the Heat and ended the Big 3 era... in Round 2

I don't think it would be all about the money for Bosh. He has already made $104,337,253 and he is 29. He looks like a player that will be able to play well into his late 30s. He is can that much again even if he is only making 15M/16M annually for a while. If he wants to leave, he will still get paid really well and make a ton of money anyway.

Regarding this being the same thread as something else. That other thread is about what the Wizards should do over the summer which is talked about all the time in the trade thread, FA thread, other player threads, fire EG, etc, but it kind of combines that information into one place which has value. It about a road map for the Wizards. This one not focused on the wizards but about ( all teams ) with a focus on the bigger names and realignment of the teams if names move. One is macro. One is Micro.

Besides, we always had a thread titled.. Year - NBA Free Agency Thread. I looked for it. It was for 2013, so I made one for 2014.

[Dat2U]

Regarding this being the same thread as something else. That other thread is about what the Wizards should do which is talked about all the time in the trade thread, FA thread, or in the player threads but it kind of combines that information into one place which has value. This one not focused on the wizards but on all ( all teams ) with a focus on the bigger names.

We used to have a 2013 Free Agency Thread.

Says Mr. Thread Nazi... who wouldn't hesitate in the past to say how unnecessary a thread was.

[hands11]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ar-Weekend

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Rose, Melo, Noah, Gibson would be a nice combo.

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