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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#241 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:15 pm

therealbig3 wrote:It's not that I think Taylor is great, I understand that he was trash...but Teague is even bigger trash, and so if we're going to have a trashy 3rd string PG, I'd prefer Taylor. We downgraded our 3rd string PG for no reason whatsoever.

BTW, Teague was also playing awful defense and letting his man get by him at will, even with a few seconds left on the shot clock...Teague just stood there and his man got by him. He committed one really bad TO when we really needed to focus and score a basket, and in general, he had no idea how to run the offense in order to get better looks. The guy just has no awareness or skills. That's why people blame him. He comes in for 7 minutes, and it's the 7 minute stretch where a 27 point lead faded to 9 points. Almost every poor offensive play and defensive breakdown could be traced back to Teague in some way.


there were 4 other guys on the court with teague, and all 4 of them were bigger reasons why that lead was cut down.

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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#242 » by Rich Rane » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:33 pm

Over .500?

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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#243 » by Palmeirense » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:33 pm

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We lost to a top tier team by 40 pts a week ago. Wipe your ass and settle down, for god's sake.


I'm asking about the prediction though. I'm really settled down. I'm just wondering how you feel about it? Do you still think we're going to go 3-20 to finish the year off?

Do you stand by your BS?

I'm just wondering because it's only 3 games into your 26 game prediction.

whats was your prediciton? 19-7? that looks to be like it will be way off as well in the other direction

i think around .500 seems about right


How is it looking way off right now? I'm sorry, but your blindness about anything this team does good is getting rather annoying.
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#244 » by Born_Ready » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:37 pm

All I know is the lockeroom is a lot happier since Collins joined the team. Keep up the good work fellas. :D
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#245 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:39 pm

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I'm asking about the prediction though. I'm really settled down. I'm just wondering how you feel about it? Do you still think we're going to go 3-20 to finish the year off?

Do you stand by your BS?

I'm just wondering because it's only 3 games into your 26 game prediction.

whats was your prediciton? 19-7? that looks to be like it will be way off as well in the other direction

i think around .500 seems about right


How is it looking way off right now? I'm sorry, but your blindness about anything this team does good is getting rather annoying.



because we would still need to win 17 more games which is completely laughable even to the biggest nets homer.

what blindness? we have played great the past 2 games. but thats 2 games. we have played 2 good games before only to go back in the tank.

im not saying we are going to suck the rest of the way, but this "we are going to finsih with 47-50 wins stuff is just off the wall.

were going to finish a game or 2 above or below .500. because thats what we are. we will probably stay hot a few more games, then once the 3 point shooting goes down and we play some road games it will be some losses.

the knee jerk here is at an all-time high. losing to portland by 44 gets swept under the rug after a 2 game win streak
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#246 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:42 pm

Need to take care of business vs. boston...

we havent been good on the road and stevens has been under the heat recently and he is gonna want to beat us to take that off.

if we play with effort again we win. if we dont, we lose. simple as that
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Post#247 » by Palmeirense » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:44 pm

That still doesn't explain like his prediction is currently looking eay off. But this is all conjecture, really, i don't see as an impossible task, though, not really.
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#248 » by Rich Rane » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:48 pm

Prokorov wrote:the knee jerk here is at an all-time high. losing to portland by 44 gets swept under the rug after a 2 game win streak


It's actually 4 games. It's also not exactly a knee-jerk reaction anymore when everyone uses the last two months as a reference. 20-8 in 2014 and 7-3 in the last 10 should get fans a little excited while yes, losses like the ones against Portland, Oklahoma City, and Detroit should have fans stay grounded and not get carried away. Still, yours and MrDollarBills's posts come off as if you WANT the Nets to lose and if that's really the case, what's the point of sticking around?
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#249 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:49 pm

Palmeirense wrote:That still doesn't explain like his prediction is currently looking eay off. But this is all conjecture, really, i don't see as an impossible task, though, not really.


because it is unlikely that a team who is .508 win% will finish out at a .708 win% to put that in perspective:

FACT: there isnt a 2 game stretch this season where we have won 19 out of 26 games. and that is any period thta overlaps our 10-1 start to the new year.

Basically, you are expecting this team to have its best stretch of the season from here on out. which is possible, but unlikely. i think it is also unlikely that a team that hasnt played with high effort all year will do so over the final 2 or so games just because they did 2 games in a row.
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Post#250 » by Palmeirense » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:53 pm

Face it, we were 10 and 21 at some point in the season, we ARE better than our record indicates. But i'm not gonna convince you to believe that this team can finish hot, nor are you gonna convince me that this team is incapable of doing it, so let's just leave it at that.
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#251 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:56 pm

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Prokorov wrote:the knee jerk here is at an all-time high. losing to portland by 44 gets swept under the rug after a 2 game win streak


It's actually 4 games. It's also not exactly a knee-jerk reaction anymore when everyone uses the last two months as a reference. 20-8 in 2014 and 7-3 in the last 10 should get fans a little excited while yes, losses like the ones against Portland, Oklahoma City, and Detroit should have fans stay grounded and not get carried away. Still, yours and MrDollarBills's posts come off as if you WANT the Nets to lose and if that's really the case, what's the point of sticking around?


of course i dont want the nets to lose. it just gets frustrating having everyone suck this team off anytime they dont play like trash only to watch us inevitably come back to .500. and then when it happens its teagues fault or jason collins fault or brett yormarks fault or anything but "hey, we just arent that good"

20-8 is super misleading. we did most of that damange early on without deron williams. how about the last 6 weeks when we are 10-7?

this team has the potential to play hard every night and should have been a 55 win team. we arent because we have a bunch of dogs on this team who arent competitive and dont play hard with any kind of regularity. and old dogs usually dont learn new tricks.

im not gonna be like MDB and say we finish out 3-20. but id be shocked if we finsih with more then 43 wins
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#252 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 6, 2014 3:58 pm

Palmeirense wrote:Face it, we were 10 and 21 at some point in the season, we ARE better than our record indicates. But i'm not gonna convince you to believe that this team can finish hot, nor are you gonna convince me that this team is incapable of doing it, so let's just leave it at that.


no we arent. we are what our record says we are. about a .500 team. and why are we a .500 team? cause we play with no consistency, were old, we are poorly coached, we rely on jumpshooting, and we have guys who dont consistently play with high effort.

we have enough talent to have good stretches. but all those things above have also led to bad stretches.
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#253 » by exculpatory » Thu Mar 6, 2014 4:32 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Palmeirense wrote:Face it, we were 10 and 21 at some point in the season, we ARE better than our record indicates. But i'm not gonna convince you to believe that this team can finish hot, nor are you gonna convince me that this team is incapable of doing it, so let's just leave it at that.


no we arent. we are what our record says we are. about a .500 team. and why are we a .500 team? cause we play with no consistency, were old, we are poorly coached, we rely on jumpshooting, and we have guys who dont consistently play with high effort.

we have enough talent to have good stretches. but all those things above have also led to bad stretches.


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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#254 » by Rich Rane » Thu Mar 6, 2014 4:51 pm

Prokorov wrote:20-8 is super misleading. we did most of that damange early on without deron williams. how about the last 6 weeks when we are 10-7?


They're doing damage right now with Deron though. 4 games in a row, the last two against over .500 teams and for all the talk of what Chicago and Memphis were and weren't missing, we've been doing it without KG and our own team's issues.

im not gonna be like MDB and say we finish out 3-20. but id be shocked if we finsih with more then 43 wins


The team for the most part has taken care of business against sub .500 teams. At least admit the rest of the schedule is favorable. Give me something than the usual doom posts or the vibe that you put off that you want to be proven correct about the team sucking.
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#255 » by NetsWorld » Thu Mar 6, 2014 4:54 pm

Prokorov, I'm getting a little tired of you and Mr.DollarBills constantly talking negative about the Nets. If you feel that way, fine, but if you want to talk bad about them, why are you a fan? You may not like it but the stats show it all, this is a completely different team from the team that started the season. 20-8 in 2014 is definitely a big deal as it shows what this team is capable of doing. And yes, I DO BELIEVE this team can beat Indiana and Miami; the talent is there, the defense is stifling and if it stays consistent, the Nets are not a coast through team, that's definitely for sure. We went from 10-21 to 30-29, not many teams in the league who are 11 games under.500 have a chance to reach that mark, only teams who express characteristics that the Nets do. Whether you like to admit it or not, we are a bad matchup for the Heat and we have the horses to contain them somewhat. That last game against Indiana with us forcing so many turnovers and almost coming close to beating them is definitely a positive. We got our butt handed to us many times this season, but perseverance and heart is what you need to have in order to climb the ladder and overcome difficult times.
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#256 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 6, 2014 4:58 pm

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They're doing damage right now with Deron though. 4 games in a row, the last two against over .500 teams and for all the talk of what Chicago and Memphis were and weren't missing, we've been doing it without KG and our own team's issues.


dwill didnt play very good or with good effort vs the bucks or nuggets. the last 2 he did. the team overall has only played with great effort the past 2 games.

and i think we gain alot with plumlee starting over KG in matchups vs good defenses.... we have ZERO floor balance with KG. everything is perimeter. plumlee with those starting guys gives us balance and someone around the rim always ready to finish. it makes us much less reliant on jump shots. if we can get by on defense that helps alot. not saying we are better without KG, but we are different and it helps those other guys.

also, playing well without key guys isnt really something that translates. we saw how incorporating dwill back in after playing well withut him was tough. the problem with this team is there is really not unit that we throw out that is really good both ways that isnt jumpshot reliant. we have a ton of talent, but it doesnt fit perfect.


The team for the most part has taken care of business against sub .500 teams. At least admit the rest of the schedule is favorable. Give me something than the usual doom posts.


the schedule is favorable for us to go .500. we play a ton of awful teams, we also play a bunch of good ones and a bunch of road games. we also play alot of the bad teams the last 6-7 games, and i can see kidd benching everyone if we arent in danger of missing the playoffs
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#257 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 6, 2014 5:04 pm

BklynNets wrote:Prokorov, I'm getting a little tired of you and Mr.DollarBills constantly talking negative about the Nets. If you feel that way, fine, but if you want to talk bad about them, why are you a fan?


maybe you are a front runner. im not. this team being awful or great doesnt matter as far as me being a fan. ill still tune in every night and root for them to win and be really invested regardless of how good or bad the team is. me talking bad about them is just observation. im not going to come here and saying mirza looked good because im a fan. he was dog trash. im not going to say dwill has had a good season cause im a nets fan, he has been putrid.



You may not like it but the stats show it all, this is a completely different team from the team that started the season. 20-8 in 2014 is definitely a big deal as it shows what this team is capable of doing.


20-8 is inflated by a small 10 game sample where we played out of our minds. just like the 3-10 sample earlier in the year. our least 17 games we are 10-7. thats good. its not great. it is what we are capable of though -- a couple games over .500.

And yes, I DO BELIEVE this team can beat Indiana and Miami; the talent is there, the defense is stifling and if it stays consistent, the Nets are not a coast through team, that's definitely for sure.


thats great. delusional, but great. why would we be consistent when we havent been all year and have a team full of inconsistent, old, oft injured players?


but perseverance and heart is what you need to have in order to climb the ladder and overcome difficult times.


i cant think of many teams in the league with less heart then this nets team. like really you can say alot of good things about this team. talented, shooting, veterans play, some guys with high iq, etc....

but really? heart? this team has no heart, and thats why we are a .500 team and not a .650 one.
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#258 » by NetsWorld » Thu Mar 6, 2014 5:11 pm

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BklynNets wrote:Prokorov, I'm getting a little tired of you and Mr.DollarBills constantly talking negative about the Nets. If you feel that way, fine, but if you want to talk bad about them, why are you a fan?


maybe you are a front runner. im not. this team being awful or great doesnt matter as far as me being a fan. ill still tune in every night and root for them to win and be really invested regardless of how good or bad the team is. me talking bad about them is just observation. im not going to come here and saying mirza looked good because im a fan. he was dog trash. im not going to say dwill has had a good season cause im a nets fan, he has been putrid.



You may not like it but the stats show it all, this is a completely different team from the team that started the season. 20-8 in 2014 is definitely a big deal as it shows what this team is capable of doing.


20-8 is inflated by a small 10 game sample where we played out of our minds. just like the 3-10 sample earlier in the year. our least 17 games we are 10-7. thats good. its not great. it is what we are capable of though -- a couple games over .500.

And yes, I DO BELIEVE this team can beat Indiana and Miami; the talent is there, the defense is stifling and if it stays consistent, the Nets are not a coast through team, that's definitely for sure.


thats great. delusional, but great. why would we be consistent when we havent been all year and have a team full of inconsistent, old, oft injured players?


but perseverance and heart is what you need to have in order to climb the ladder and overcome difficult times.


i cant think of many teams in the league with less heart then this nets team. like really you can say alot of good things about this team. talented, shooting, veterans play, some guys with high iq, etc....

but really? heart? this team has no heart, and thats why we are a .500 team and not a .650 one.


I have been a fan since the J Kidd era, around 01, so I have been a fan for 13 years, so no I am not a front runner. The way you speak epitomizes how you truly feel; are you not satisfied enough by the hard work Billy has done to put this team together? He made questionable moves but at the end of the day, we went from the doghouse (12-70) to the playoffs and envisioned this would be the team to finally contend for a ring. Sure, we have had missteps along the way, but the fact we are playing the way we are is very encouraging and this team is confident it can beat any team in a 7 game series. As long as that mind sight is present, your opinion and view as well as mine or anyone else's is going to be irrelevant and a non factor if and when they play Indy or Miami in the postseason. Look at the recent comments by Johnson, Pierce, D Will, and S Liv. Johnson recently stated any team coming to Barclays is going to lose; D will stated what matters is the playoffs, S Liv stated they are confident bunch heading into the playoffs. There definitely are flaws but there are positives as well.
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#259 » by Palmeirense » Thu Mar 6, 2014 5:20 pm

Prokorov, wanna make a sig bet about the 43 wins thing? if the nets win over 43 games, you have to put in your sig ''Jason Kidd is the best coach in the league and Deron Williams is better than Chris Paul'', if they win 43 or under i put whatever you want me to put in my sig. Deal? =)
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Re: PG: Over .500 

Post#260 » by Rich Rane » Thu Mar 6, 2014 5:43 pm

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