Is Dragic a top 5 point guard when everybody is health?

[No-Man]

Wall is by far the best defensive guard in today's game.
Its comical to think that Dragic is better than Parker, Parker out of the Spurs system and with the usage of a superstar will be averaging 25-27 points per game, easily.
Anyway, going forward, unless you trade any of them, and I think that won't be wise, Dragic position is going to be SG, and he is a top3-4 SG, top2 when Kobe and Wade finally decline.
Only Harden is better, and it's close, he could be the to SG in the game at some point.

[JDLAW]

everybody healthy 100%

Rose
Paul
Parker
Westbrook
Curry
Wall
Dragic
Williams
Rondo
Irving
Lillard
Holiday
Bledsoe
Lawson
Conley
Lowry

So..., nope

Putting Rose on the top of the list is, at the present time, delusional. He missed almost all of this season, but when he played, his performance was poor. He missed the entire 12-13 season and his performance in the 11-12 season was a significant droop off from his MVP year. Putting it mildly, he has not been much of a factor for 3 seasons. Who knows what he will be when "healthy". I put Dragic ahead of Wall and Parker at this point, but not by much. I disagree with your ranking of Williams - he no longer occupies that lofty of a position.

When Bledsoe returns Dragic will be more off the ball and if you consider him a shooting guard, he is up there with Harden and Wade based on this year's performance.

[sunsbum]

Wall is by far the best defensive guard in today's game.
Its comical to think that Dragic is better than Parker, Parker out of the Spurs system and with the usage of a superstar will be averaging 25-27 points per game, easily.
Anyway, going forward, unless you trade any of them, and I think that won't be wise, Dragic position is going to be SG, and he is a top3-4 SG, top2 when Kobe and Wade finally decline.
Only Harden is better, and it's close, he could be the to SG in the game at some point.

I'm sorry but Parker would not being scoring 27 PPG. ever.

[sunsbum]

The thing is the topic was about people 100%
And Dragic is not even close to Parker or Westbrook level.

Top 5 Pgs when everyone was in 8th grade. Go.

[Revived]

Wall is by far the best defensive guard in today's game.
Its comical to think that Dragic is better than Parker, Parker out of the Spurs system and with the usage of a superstar will be averaging 25-27 points per game, easily.
Anyway, going forward, unless you trade any of them, and I think that won't be wise, Dragic position is going to be SG, and he is a top3-4 SG, top2 when Kobe and Wade finally decline.
Only Harden is better, and it's close, he could be the to SG in the game at some point.

Wall is not a better defender than Tony Allen or Patrick Beverly. He's barely better than Bledsoe defensively.

And Dragic destroys him in shooting %s. Goran is a WAY more efficient player who does more with less.

And Parker would never average 25-27 a game. He's really good but he struggles against lengthy defenders. Even Spurs fans know this.

I'd say Parker and Dragic are about the same right now but I'd take Dragic over Parker cause Goran's younger and has more room to grow.

[DirtyDez]

The thing is the topic was about people 100%
And Dragic is not even close to Parker or Westbrook level.

I do think he needs to do it longer than 60% of one season to be considered among the top PG's but this question was asked in the Suns forum. On the PC board you will get some more objective lists. I think he's more of a Manu-type combo guard than pure point.

[sogood]

Chris Paul
Stephen Curry
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Tony Parker

John Wall
Rajon Rondo

No.

[bwgood77]

Well one voter considers him first team all nba this year.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/441794136643883008[/tweet]

[TheCalling]

Well one voter considers him first team all nba this year.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/441794136643883008[/tweet]

He should make the second team possibly, which is a great honor and he could get more.

[RaisingArizona]

Yes

[Revived]

and i'd easily would rather have dragic over a healthy westbrook. OKC would be much better with dragic running the show (better bball IQ, non-chucker)

Healthy Westbrook is better than Dragic even with the mental lapses that Westbrook has. He kept them in the game today even though he took some bad shots. Plus he's much better defensively than Dragic.

[SDC]

and i'd easily would rather have dragic over a healthy westbrook. OKC would be much better with dragic running the show (better bball IQ, non-chucker)

Healthy Westbrook is better than Dragic even with the mental lapses that Westbrook has. He kept them in the game today even though he took some bad shots. Plus he's much better defensively than Dragic.

westbrook is not my kind of point guard. i could see dragic playing PG at OKC while westbrook plays SG, the problem though is that westbrook is not a good catch and shoot guy (but maybe he'll improve like dragic this season).

[DK-All Day]

Chris Paul
Stephen Curry
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Tony Parker

John Wall
Rajon Rondo

No.

Replace Parker with Rondo and it's perfect.

[Lorenzomax7]

CP3
Curry
Westbrook
D-Rose
Lawson
Bledsoe
Parker
Rondo
Dragic
Wall
Conley
D-Will
someone unnamed
Lowry
Holiday
Lillard
Teague
Rubio
Irving
Jackson
IT
Jennings

[No-Man]

I still Dragic better at SG, from a winning perspective, you can win many RS games with the Suns model, but defense and control of the pace will be better with Bledsoe+Dragic even if Goran score less points, should not be a problem.
Who is going to get the nod for SF starter? Tucker or Green?

[JDLAW]

The thing is the topic was about people 100%
And Dragic is not even close to Parker or Westbrook level.

Yes but you have no idea what players will look like at 100% after a major injury. This is not like a car, pop a new set of tires on after a flat and you're back to new. Players like Rose, who have had 2 significant knee injuries, may never return to pre-injury status or they simply might change the style of their game to avoid further injury. Rose came back this year fully healed and in excellent physical condition. His play in the games up to the time he was injured was nowhere near his previous play. Westbrook has come back from 3 knee surgeries in the past year and he has been up and down - especially with his shorting percentage. Last night in Phoenix, he looked great for about 3/4 of the game - his legs were fresh and he was explosive. In the 4th quarter he did not look as good.

[Revived]

He's just gotta work on his FT shooting. Out of all the top PGs who are bad defensively, Dragic has the worst FT % among them.