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Post#181 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:53 am

PacersRule07 wrote:I don't have an internet link, but I can tell you I heard it on a radio streaming of KLAC (an LA based radio station) by Hacksaw Hamilton while trying to listen to Jermaine O'Neal rumors. I don't think he'd just make that up.

I also don't think our bullpen is in that bad of shape, they've been pretty good lately, and it's because they're starting to get some rest with our starters going longer. We probably could use another quality arm, but I don't think it's necessary to acquire an elite setup guy at this point.

I also think we need another big RBI/power guy in this lineup. AROD is really our only healthy one right now (Giambi being the other). There is no secret that when AROD's bat is hot, this team wins a lot of games, but what happens when he cools down again? We have a lot of good hitters, but a guy like Teixeria would put this lineup over the top.


that's the problem we're looking for too much offense what is wrong w/ this team is the defense namely the bullpen.

Farnsworthless, Myers, Villone and even Proctor have stunk it up too much this year, I give Proctor a little bit of a pass but at times he's choked games away.
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Post#182 » by PR07 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:30 am

I really don't think the bullpen is that bad if they aren't overworked. They aren't exactly lights out, but they get the job done. Farnsworth needs to go though. We could probably use another consistent setup guy, but I don't think we need an Eric Gagne or someone like that.
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Post#183 » by 34Celtic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:37 pm

NYKnSTILL! wrote:Clippard and Duncan for him that's as far as I go and I may even throw in Henn
He's worth all three. However Atlanta wants a ML ready arm that can help them win now, we can't give them that.
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Post#184 » by cmaff051 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:39 pm

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Clippard and Duncan for him that's as far as I go and I may even throw in Henn


LOL, you may even throw in Henn. How kind of you.

A package of Clippard, Duncan and Henn isn't going to get Salty. Duncan is worth nothing, Henn is worth nothing. Clippard is worth something, but he is not worth Salty.
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Post#185 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:34 pm

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LOL, you may even throw in Henn. How kind of you.

A package of Clippard, Duncan and Henn isn't going to get Salty. Duncan is worth nothing, Henn is worth nothing. Clippard is worth something, but he is not worth Salty.


the price for Salty is going to go down because Teixiera's value will rise.
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Post#186 » by 34Celtic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:43 pm

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the price for Salty is going to go down because Teixiera's value will rise.


Not sure about that. The Braves aren't forced to trade him. He's an absolute stud.
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Post#187 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:12 pm

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Not sure about that. The Braves aren't forced to trade him. He's an absolute stud.


not doubting that salty is a stud prospect, I just don't think his value is that high I mean seriously he's young and a switch hitter and a C but not too many teams are going to mortgage the farm.

Joba imo when it's said and done will be a better prospect
Tabata when he returns from his wrist injury will blow by this kid
Mr. Kennedy is raising eyebrows right now

we don't even know what the hell Atlanta wants :nonono:
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Post#188 » by 34Celtic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:02 pm

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not doubting that salty is a stud prospect, I just don't think his value is that high I mean seriously he's young and a switch hitter and a C but not too many teams are going to mortgage the farm.

Joba imo when it's said and done will be a better prospect
Tabata when he returns from his wrist injury will blow by this kid
Mr. Kennedy is raising eyebrows right now

we don't even know what the hell Atlanta wants :nonono:


If you can find yourself a tape of last nights Braves game do it. Rocket arm, swings an unbelievable bat. If any of those three prospects of ours turn out like Salty, we're gonna have all-stars year in year out. If we could get Salty straight up for 2 of the three you listed (yes Tabata too) I'm down.
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Post#189 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:09 pm

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If you can find yourself a tape of last nights Braves game do it. Rocket arm, swings an unbelievable bat. If any of those three prospects of ours turn out like Salty, we're gonna have all-stars year in year out. If we could get Salty straight up for 2 of the three you listed (yes Tabata too) I'm down.


so many things wrong w/ what you said especially now that Joba is getting promoted and Ian Kennedy is hitting 94 on the radar gun. On top of that if we let Tabata go I'm telling you we will regret that. I rather wait till they lower their asking price.

and yes I watched the game on ESPN. I know what Salty is about.
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Post#190 » by 34Celtic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:23 pm

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so many things wrong w/ what you said especially now that Joba is getting promoted and Ian Kennedy is hitting 94 on the radar gun. On top of that if we let Tabata go I'm telling you we will regret that. I rather wait till they lower their asking price.

and yes I watched the game on ESPN. I know what Salty is about.


Wrong with what I said? None of our guys have proved themselves about AA, or in some cases AA. Salty is proving he is going to be a stud someday in the majors, and hes proving it against MAJOR LEAGUE COMPETITION.
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Post#191 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:42 pm

Sam (Spokane, WA): Does Teixeira end up in the Bronx?

SportsNation Buster Olney: Not a chance before he becomes a free agent, unless Brian Cashman is stripped of power and George Steinbrenner starts making deals himself.



it's a change in philosophy Cash isn't selling the farm for big names like the Tampa bafoons did before. And if he's not selling Tabata and Joba for Teixiera no reason why he does it for Salty.
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Post#192 » by cmaff051 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:44 pm

Salty is not getting traded for anybody in this organization except for Tabata, Hughes and Chamberlain. We aren't going to lowball the Braves, they are in a position of strength. They need top of the rotation pitchers.
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Post#193 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:46 pm

cmaff051 wrote:Salty is not getting traded for anybody in this organization except for Tabata, Hughes and Chamberlain. We aren't going to lowball the Braves, they are in a position of strength. They need top of the rotation pitchers.


then I seriously see him heading to Boston or San Fransico
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Post#194 » by cmaff051 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:50 pm

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then I seriously see him heading to Boston or San Fransico


Why would they contemplate trading him? Makes no sense at all, unless they are going to get something great, like Tim Lincecum, which makes no sense from the Giants point of view. They would move Salty to 1B and trade away Thornman.

It makes no sense for the Braves to trade away Salty for antyhing other than a big-time top of the rotation starter. We are not going to give away a top of the rotation prospect for Salty. Neither is the Red Sox or the Giants.
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Post#195 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:53 pm

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Why would they contemplate trading him? Makes no sense at all, unless they are going to get something great, like Tim Lincecum, which makes no sense from the Giants point of view. They would move Salty to 1B and trade away Thornman.

It makes no sense for the Braves to trade away Salty for antyhing other than a big-time top of the rotation starter. We are not going to give away a top of the rotation prospect for Salty. Neither is the Red Sox or the Giants.


well w/ Boston they would have to start w/ Ellsbury and Lester as for San Fransico Cain and Sanchez would open some thoughts for Atlanta. I think Saltalamacchia is going to be traded by the deadline.
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Post#196 » by 34Celtic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:55 pm

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well w/ Boston they would have to start w/ Ellsbury and Lester as for San Fransico Cain and Sanchez would open some thoughts for Atlanta. I think Saltalamacchia is going to be traded by the deadline.


Those don't make any sense for Atlanta. AND STILL, not everyone is obseessed with prospects. Some teams actually trade for proven big leaguers. Dontrelle and a prospect might get it done.
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Post#197 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:56 pm

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Those don't make any sense for Atlanta. AND STILL, not everyone is obseessed with prospects. Some teams actually trade for proven big leaguers. Dontrelle and a prospect might get it done.


since when is Dontrelle Willis in serious trade talks :lol:
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Post#198 » by 34Celtic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:58 pm

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since when is Dontrelle Willis in serious trade talks :lol:


Since last year when we talked about giving up Melky for him, or the Mets talked about send Milledge down to Miami, or whenever someone has needed a proven big arm and has had prospects to give up. Where have you been :lol:

I just quickly went through all of Florida's wiretap archives and I'd say 40% of them (and thats on the low side) deal with Dontrelle being traded.
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Post#199 » by NYKnSTILL! » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:22 pm

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Since last year when we talked about giving up Melky for him, or the Mets talked about send Milledge down to Miami, or whenever someone has needed a proven big arm and has had prospects to give up. Where have you been :lol:

I just quickly went through all of Florida's wiretap archives and I'd say 40% of them (and thats on the low side) deal with Dontrelle being traded.


well first Milledge is not enough for a Dontrelle Willis 2nd I doubt they deal him it's too many rumors w/ him
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Post#200 » by 34Celtic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:49 pm

NYKnSTILL! wrote: I doubt they deal him it's too many rumors w/ him


Exactly, you just said there weren't rumors, now you're saying theres too many? any team looking for a pitcher the last year has been rumored to go after Dontrelle.

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