Jays offer Santana 1y/$14m; chooses Braves 1y/14.1

Graham's Cracker · Post #1 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:19 pm

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/blue-jays-to-sign-ervin-santana.html

The Blue Jays have agreed to terms with Ervin Santana on a one-year, $14MM deal, Dionisio Soldevila of ESPN Deportes tweets.

Soldebila was also the reporter that broke the news that Santana fired Bean Stringfellow

brwnman · Post #2 » by **brwnman** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:24 pm

Of the three (Garza, Ubaldo & Santana), he was the one I least wanted. But at the price each was given, it's definitely worth it. Worse comes to worst, we trade him at the deadline. The rotation looks a little better, and thankfully, this means Stroman can start the year at Triple-A. He is not ready. It'll be Hutch v Happ for the last spot, and I hope Hutch earns it.

silverhill27 · Post #3 » by **silverhill27** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:25 pm

Nice. Gotta give props to AA for waiting it out.

dagger · Post #4 » by **dagger** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:27 pm

Well, good on a couple of scores. He pitches well he may stay or earns a comp pick. He pitches poorly, he's gone with no carryover to 2015. He is on a one-year deal, so highly motivated. Even if he pitches well enough, can even let him walk without a QO (or comp) if guys like Sanchez, Stroman, Hutchinson, etc, look really ready.

Graham's Cracker · Post #5 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:27 pm

I think Santana did well to walk away with what equates to his qualifying offer, given the juncture of the off-season which he signed. I don't know what playing for Rogers Centre will do for his FA value next season.

If he's successful we'll be able to offer him a QO again next year and either gain a pick or keep him around for another year.

brwnman · Post #6 » by **brwnman** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:28 pm

^ yep. the gamble definitely paid off. Now... stephen drew (on a 1yr deal)? or am I just getting too greedy.

Graham's Cracker · Post #7 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:29 pm

brwnman wrote:^ yep. the gamble definitely paid off. Now... stephen drew (on a 1yr deal)? or am I just getting too greedy.

In for a penny, in for a pound.

Relentless88 · Post #8 » by **Relentless88** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:30 pm

Definitely would have preferred Garza or Jimenez, but for the term (1 year) I can't complain. Definitely makes the rotation look a lot better.

BigLeagueChew · Post #9 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:30 pm

Meh, can't be worse than Josh Johnson was last year...i hope.

torontoaces04 · Post #10 » by **torontoaces04** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:31 pm

Great, a lot more souvenirs for the fans now!

Remember, if you're a grown man, no bringing your glove to the game

Santoki · Post #11 » by **Santoki** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:37 pm

It's amazing what a long offseason will do. If I told you the only offseason move the Jays would make is to sign Santana to a 1-year deal, we'd all be up in arms. But, here we are somehow satisfied with this. Thanks for tossing us a biscuit, Rogers.

dballislife · Post #12 » by **dballislife** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:38 pm

HUGE...is he a great fit? not really, hes nothing special...but the jays NEED better starting pitching...this is nice

silverhill27 · Post #13 » by **silverhill27** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:39 pm

brwnman wrote:Of the three (Garza, Ubaldo & Santana), he was the one I least wanted. But at the price each was given, it's definitely worth it. Worse comes to worst, we trade him at the deadline. The rotation looks a little better, and thankfully, this means Stroman can start the year at Triple-A. He is not ready. It'll be Hutch v Happ for the last spot, and I hope Hutch earns it.

I hope Hutch starts in AAA too to build up his arm in lower pressure situations. I'd be fine with giving Happ, Rogers, Redmond, Romero the first shot at the 5th spot if Santana signs.

Homer Jay · Post #14 » by **Homer Jay** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:40 pm

Thank Fooking The Lord.

Either this is because Happ/Redmond have been a complete and utter disaster this spring. (Both can go pitch in Buffalo or even GTFO, IDC) Pressure is now off Stro/Hutch/Rogers to all perform. Now we have three guys to rotate through the fifth spot and can go with the hot hand. Although I imagine Morrow will miss his customary 10-12 starts. So one of those guys will have to cover that as well.

Or AA is a balls-to-the-wall negotiator and knew he could break Santana with the comp pick/wonky elbow scaring every other team off.

Maybe we land Drew on a one year too. I just got back from Florida and caught a couple of ST games and freaking Goins can't hit for shyte. Weak slap hitter that has to pray his balls roll out a hole in the IF. Getz can't be a serious consideration. He's a hot turd in a dirty diaper. Izturis is needed as a backup at a bunch of other positions. Drew makes too much sense. Beeston needs to grow the eff up and put the b.s. with agents behind him for the good of the team. It's not helping us any alienating anybody regardless of Beeston's personal feelings about their business tactics. Boras might be an axehole of the first order and done some pretty slimy shyte in his day, but he broke no laws, stayed completely within the situations MLB allows. If the league management is pissed at him threatening to not have players sign and go back into the draft then they should get rid of the provision that allows it. Don't punish a guy for using all he can to get his players the most he can. That's his job as an agent.

MikeM · Post #15 » by **MikeM** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:41 pm

I'm mostly happy with this because it means we're not going to pull a 2009 all over again.

I really don't want to fire AA, I think he's learning.

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #16 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:43 pm

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torontoaces04 · Post #17 » by **torontoaces04** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:44 pm

silverhill27 wrote:
brwnman wrote:Of the three (Garza, Ubaldo & Santana), he was the one I least wanted. But at the price each was given, it's definitely worth it. Worse comes to worst, we trade him at the deadline. The rotation looks a little better, and thankfully, this means Stroman can start the year at Triple-A. He is not ready. It'll be Hutch v Happ for the last spot, and I hope Hutch earns it.

I hope Hutch starts in AAA too to build up his arm in lower pressure situations. I'd be fine with giving Happ, Rogers, Redmond, Romero the first shot at the 5th spot if Santana signs.

No chance of Hutch starting in AAA, based upon Spring Training so far. He has arguably been our best starter thus far, and Gibbons has emphasized the fact that they are bringing the best 25 guys with them to start the season.

The way I see it at this point, this is our rotation;

Dickey
Santana
Morrow
Buerhle
Hutchison

torontoaces04 · Post #18 » by **torontoaces04** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:45 pm

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brwnman · Post #19 » by **brwnman** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:46 pm

Yep. No deal reached yet, confirmed by Davidi as well.

Post #20 » by **CanuckPete** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 5:47 pm

11:40am: The deal is not yet done, but Santana and the Jays are discussing one, the New York Post's Joel Sherman tweets.