Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread

MasterIchiro · Post #641 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Mar 6, 2014 10:22 pm

lmcguir5 wrote:
catch20two wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:The Pistons should be playing to keep their pick next year if anything.

Won't be no purpose next year since it's only top 1 protected which basically means ain't protected. But I think I get what you're saying, that they should play hard to ensure us the worst possible pick next year rather than this year.

No, he's saying the exact opposite in that they should play hard this year so they convey the pick to us when the potential is much worse for our gain and then next year they get to draft 2nd or 3rd etc.

That's right. It's a choice between giving us 9, 10 or 11 now or risk losing pick 2, 3 4 or 5 next year. If they determine the changes possible are severely limited (due to Smith and Jennings for example), they should work hard to convey now because it's difficult to improve. It's possible the only direction they will move is down next year.

Liver_Pooty · Post #642 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:16 pm

If the pick is 9 or 10 now why would it improve next year? Is Drummond going to get hurt next season or something?

Post #643 » by **JDR720** » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:51 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:If the pick is 9 or 10 now why would it improve next year? Is Drummond going to get hurt next season or something?

yea thats why i think i want it this year.....to big a risk of them getting better in the offseason...which won't be hard to do

catch20two · Post #644 » by **catch20two** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 12:09 am

The Pistons aren't gonna be better than they are this year next year unless they trade Monroe for a wing player that's worthwhile. I would be cool with getting the pick next year.

Liver_Pooty · Post #645 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 12:14 am

catch20two wrote:The Pistons aren't gonna be better than they are this year next year unless they trade Monroe for a wing player that's worthwhile. I would be cool with getting the pick next year.

They could easily be better than they are this year. New coach, Drummond getting better, drafting a McDermott to put at the 3, etc.

catch20two · Post #646 » by **catch20two** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 12:22 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:The Pistons aren't gonna be better than they are this year next year unless they trade Monroe for a wing player that's worthwhile. I would be cool with getting the pick next year.

They could easily be better than they are this year. New coach, Drummond getting better, drafting a McDermott to put at the 3, etc.

You might be right but it depends on who they hire to coach and if the next GM has a eye for talent. I could easily see them getting worst.

Post #647 » by **JDR720** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 2:40 am

that Portland pick is now 26th and we are just barely getting the DET pick

Post #648 » by **JDR720** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 2:41 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:The Pistons aren't gonna be better than they are this year next year unless they trade Monroe for a wing player that's worthwhile. I would be cool with getting the pick next year.

They could easily be better than they are this year. New coach, Drummond getting better, drafting a McDermott to put at the 3, etc.

You might be right but it depends on who they hire to coach and if the next GM has a eye for talent. I could easily see them getting worst.

i don't think they can get much worse, getting rid of Monroe and getting a good SF and put Smith at PF will win them at least 10 more games because it fixes spacing problems

catch20two · Post #649 » by **catch20two** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 3:23 am

JDR720 wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
They could easily be better than they are this year. New coach, Drummond getting better, drafting a McDermott to put at the 3, etc.

You might be right but it depends on who they hire to coach and if the next GM has a eye for talent. I could easily see them getting worst.

i don't think they can get much worse, getting rid of Monroe and getting a good SF and put Smith at PF will win them at least 10 more games because it fixes spacing problems

They don't want to get rid of Monroe tho. That's the conundrum. Depending on how the new GM think I can see them going into next season with Monroe again hoping to dupe somebody into trading for Josh Smith to by the deadline and that will fail.

Post #650 » by **JDR720** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 4:28 am

well POR lost after coming back from 30 down....that is good and the pick is #24 now

Liver_Pooty · Post #651 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Mar 8, 2014 4:31 am

catch20two wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
catch20two wrote:You might be right but it depends on who they hire to coach and if the next GM has a eye for talent. I could easily see them getting worst.

i don't think they can get much worse, getting rid of Monroe and getting a good SF and put Smith at PF will win them at least 10 more games because it fixes spacing problems

They don't want to get rid of Monroe tho. That's the conundrum. Depending on how the new GM think I can see them going into next season with Monroe again hoping to dupe somebody into trading for Josh Smith to by the deadline and that will fail.

Its not a question of if they want to get rid of Monroe, its a question of if they want to pay him. Some stupid team will offer him a massive contract. Will Detroit match that knowing that no team will trade for Josh Smith anytime soon and that Drummond eventually has to be extended? Good luck Dumars, or whomever the new Detroit GM will be..

Elden Payton · Post #652 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:53 am

10 and 24 are not too bad imo.

Detroit has lost 3 in a row and are now only one game ahead of both Cleveland and New York.

Liver_Pooty · Post #653 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:54 am

Sik Infant wrote:10 and 24 are not too bad imo.

Detroit has lost 3 in a row and are now only one game ahead of both Cleveland and New York.

I won't be surprised at all if we don't get their pick this year. They are playing horrible basketball.

Elden Payton · Post #654 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:59 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:10 and 24 are not too bad imo.

Detroit has lost 3 in a row and are now only one game ahead of both Cleveland and New York.

I won't be surprised at all if we don't get their pick this year. They are playing horrible basketball.

The saddest part is that it is not deliberate

Liver_Pooty · Post #655 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:05 am

Sik Infant wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:10 and 24 are not too bad imo.

Detroit has lost 3 in a row and are now only one game ahead of both Cleveland and New York.

I won't be surprised at all if we don't get their pick this year. They are playing horrible basketball.

The saddest part is that it is not deliberate

I watched a few minutes of that game and it was painful.

Elden Payton · Post #656 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:07 am

I'm actually feeling for them at the moment.

It must be hard watching a franchise icon, dismantle and destroy any chance they had at success

(in the near future)

Post #657 » by **JDR720** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:09 am

Portland lost again, play @ Memphis on Tuesday

MasterIchiro · Post #658 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:10 am

The Pistons pick goes up in value simply because it loses protection. GM's don't fear a Blazers' turnaround like fans do. I can't imagine that. Maybe we can grab someone like Klay Thompson. It just might be the best thing to happen to us. It's a tremendous asset. The pack of teams near the Pistons have more ways of improving than the Pistons do. The Pistons need to trade Monroe but he wants to enter free agency and his value is not worth the return.

Post #659 » by **JDR720** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:12 am

if we don't get the Piston pick this year i would shop it around like crazy next season if i was Cho, turn that one asset into multiple assets or a really good player

MasterIchiro · Post #660 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:14 am

Portland 42 21
Memphis 36 26

With only 20 games remaining it would take a tremendous swing but the Blazers pick is 5 losses away from being a lottery pick.