Kings @ Nets

[SacKingZZZ]

I was referring to a sg who will stay out of Cuz/Gay way which Ben might not be projected to do, they don't have to be particularly good.
I haven't looked into who yet, but on a cursory glance at http://hoopshype.com/free_agency/shooti ... s_2014.htm there were 3 that seemed to me to reasonably fit the bill who wouldn't break the bank (won't name because I'm not going to debate the merits of the players now, haven't even looked into this)
Again, this is if Ben doesn't show anything of substance coming down the stretch

Yes, I have looked at all of the free agents for this year and next year. And no, there are none that realistically could come here and help us improve in the manner you suggest.

But even looking at the rankings of HoopsHype

1. Wade - No Chance
2. Lance Stephenson - Can't Afford
3. Evan Turner - Can't Afford
4. Avery Bradley - He'll get offers of the full MLE from contending teams most likely. Defensive SG's like him will get many offers. We can't offer more than the MLE.
5. Ray Allen - Too old, won't go to a rebuilding team
6. Nick Young
7. Thabo Sefolosha - Would be great fit, only he'll be getting the MLE offer that we could offer him from better contending teams. He's not leaving a OKC to come to Sac.
8. Vince Carter - Too old
9. Jodie Meeks -
10. Jason Richardson - Too Old
11. Alan Anderson - Who is this?
12. Jimmer - Lawl
13. Anthony Morrow
14. Ben Gordon
15. Shannon Brown
16. Marshon Brooks

So, I guess if you're looking at one of those players...I guess? Would just be a treadwater-type of a move.

Don't forget, some of those, or even ones not on the list could possibly be traded for. Tony Allen might be available for the right package. Memphis may be looking to upgrade their SF spot, perhaps Williams might interest them. With that said, who knows what this teams PG spot will look like this summer. All it will take is one team willing to front load a deal to steal IT away. That to me means he's most likely gone unless they can do the impossible and unleash some of these bad deals onto a team willing to take them.

Thabo is the guy I want to see them go after, not sure if he's worth the MLE though. Not even to OKC. The interest in him should be under the premise that you have little defense and some shooting ability coming from your PG spot.

Treadwater. I guess the Kings are one step below that? We've seen this year alone the difference the right kind of role players can make. Luc before he was traded, Reggie Evans and Ray McCallum now. This team has the scoring part on lock down, and has had it for years, IF they use the right system. Once again, new day, same 'ol story. The Kings go to Cousins and get him some players willing to move and the offense springs back to life. If I'm Malone, I start every game with a backdoor play or a screen for Gay or IT off the ball and back to the wing.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'm referring to a "treadwater-type" of move. A treadwater type move IMO is better than what Ben will be next year (as of this moment) and IMO the direction the franchise will go in in terms of who will be starting at sg next year (provided Ben doesn't impress the rest of the season). A low-paid vet who can put in a reasonable shift while we figure out if Ben can play and before we have good cap space.
This is only my opinion, I understand others will want Ben to start and get experience so we will see how this unfolds

Then I guess you believe McLemore is a long-term starter in this league. Because the only reason you'd treadwater is because you believe McLemore can be a starting SG on a contending team, otherwise treading water will only hurt the franchise. All this franchise has done is tried to tread water ever since 2002. We've never bottomed out, and this is the consequence.


I on the other hand do not think McLemore will ever become more than than a bench role player getting 20-25 minutes at best.

I'd call having the worst record in one year and the ability to land a talent the level of Demarcus Cousins bottoming out. Time to start building around that talent, which means fit more than anything. You can question the surrounding moves here and there, such as using cap space in ill advised areas, but the problem isn't the using the space part, it's the using it in ill advised areas one.

[Big_Cat]

I'd call having the worst record in one year and the ability to land a talent the level of Demarcus Cousins bottoming out. Time to start building around that talent, which means fit more than anything. You can question the surrounding moves here and there, such as using cap space in ill advised areas, but the problem isn't the using the space part, it's the using it in ill advised areas one.

No. Look at what Lakers have done this year. Look at Philly. Look at GSW the year they got Curry.


We've been landing these top draft picks, not because we've looked to rebuild, but simply because we're that f**king bad. Our team has been trying to win this season (ie signing like Landry and trading for Gay) and yet we're still in the bottom of the pack. Teams like LA and Philly have been purposefully tanking, and we're barely worse than them. You can't blame injuries either for our roster, because we've been fairly healthy all year.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'd call having the worst record in one year and the ability to land a talent the level of Demarcus Cousins bottoming out. Time to start building around that talent, which means fit more than anything. You can question the surrounding moves here and there, such as using cap space in ill advised areas, but the problem isn't the using the space part, it's the using it in ill advised areas one.

No. Look at what Lakers have done this year. Look at Philly. Look at GSW the year they got Curry.


We've been landing these top draft picks, not because we've looked to rebuild, but simply because we're that f**king bad. Our team has been trying to win this season (ie signing like Landry and trading for Gay) and yet we're still in the bottom of the pack. Teams like LA and Philly have been purposefully tanking, and we're barely worse than them. You can't blame injuries either for our roster, because we've been fairly healthy all year.

It's doesn't matter what the intention was or the way it happened at this point, they got legit talent in the draft. This an argument we had years ago, when this team was sitting at 10-12 in the draft and landing Spencer Hawes' or Jason Thompson', this team has moved past that now time to take step 2. You're lucky if you land a single core building piece in the draft, the Kings have a major one in Cousins.

Very rarely does a team build a championship contender just through the draft. The Kings are still at the bottom of the pack but you really think that it's fair to judge a team in a year where they've literally changed EVERYTHING? I mean, from owners on down. Also when the knowledge of this franchise wanting further change it still isn't a shock to me that you see players having a difficult time buying in. That in part is the fault of ownership and the front office but at least they appear to know this isn't a finished product. And you have to mention injuries, don't forget this team started to get a real rhythm going before both Gay and Cuz went down.

This teams core of talent is still pretty young, just because you're bad doesn't mean you don't have talent worth building around. If that were the case you wouldn't see a team like the Wizards stick it through. They're a good example of what happens when you start bringing in the right kind of players to fit your core. Gortat and Nene have made a huge difference for that team. They're winning, they also happen to have a top 5 pick sitting on the bench while it's happening. That's where this team needs to head, start picking up the sense makers, not more shot takers.