Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread

[tondi123]

I know this is a loaded draft and I hate not picking until the mid 20's but I honestly can't decide if wouldn't be better off not getting that Det pick this year. You have to think it would hold tremendous trade value if we wanted to move it for an established player or if we prefer to keep it and hope Detroit completely implodes next season and we end up with a top 5 pick next year which isn't a far fetched scenario at all. Whatever happens, I will try to look at the positive side of things.

[JDR720]

Players we could draft with DET pick this draft

Doug McDermott,Noah Vonleh,Gary Harris,Aaron Gordon,Dario Saric,Marcus Smart etc.

Players we could draft with DET pick next year (assuming it gets better than 9th) (and looking at 2015 mock on DraftExpress)

Okafor(projected to be #1) Cliff Alexander,Karl Towns,Mario Hezonja, Tyrus Jones,Emmanuel Mudiay,Trey Lyles etc.

would you rather have one of those guys from this draft, or one of the guys from 2015, personally i think the 9th pick this year could be top 5 next year depending on who it is

we also have to consider trading the pick, what could we get for it? and also there is the big time risk Detroit improves from this year (hard not to do they are terrible) and makes the playoffs and even if they don't improve other teams will be in tank mode again for Okafor

[Liver_Pooty]

Players we could draft with DET pick this draft

Doug McDermott,Noah Vonleh,Gary Harris,Aaron Gordon,Dario Saric,Marcus Smart etc.

Players we could draft with DET pick next year (assuming it gets better than 9th) (and looking at 2015 mock on DraftExpress)

Okafor(projected to be #1) Cliff Alexander,Karl Towns,Mario Hezonja, Tyrus Jones,Emmanuel Mudiay,Trey Lyles etc.

would you rather have one of those guys from this draft, or one of the guys from 2015, personally i think the 9th pick this year could be top 5 next year depending on who it is

we also have to consider trading the pick, what could we get for it? and also there is the big time risk Detroit improves from this year (hard not to do they are terrible) and makes the playoffs and even if they don't improve other teams will be in tank mode again for Okafor

If we don't get the pick I want to use it to acquire a really nice player in the offseason. Could use upgrades at SG, SF, and probably PF as well.

[JDR720]

Players we could draft with DET pick this draft

Doug McDermott,Noah Vonleh,Gary Harris,Aaron Gordon,Dario Saric,Marcus Smart etc.

Players we could draft with DET pick next year (assuming it gets better than 9th) (and looking at 2015 mock on DraftExpress)

Okafor(projected to be #1) Cliff Alexander,Karl Towns,Mario Hezonja, Tyrus Jones,Emmanuel Mudiay,Trey Lyles etc.

would you rather have one of those guys from this draft, or one of the guys from 2015, personally i think the 9th pick this year could be top 5 next year depending on who it is

we also have to consider trading the pick, what could we get for it? and also there is the big time risk Detroit improves from this year (hard not to do they are terrible) and makes the playoffs and even if they don't improve other teams will be in tank mode again for Okafor

If we don't get the pick I want to use it to acquire a really nice player in the offseason. Could use upgrades at SG, SF, and probably PF as well.

how nice, like all-star nice or lots of potential nice or another kind of nice

[Liver_Pooty]

Players we could draft with DET pick this draft

Doug McDermott,Noah Vonleh,Gary Harris,Aaron Gordon,Dario Saric,Marcus Smart etc.

Players we could draft with DET pick next year (assuming it gets better than 9th) (and looking at 2015 mock on DraftExpress)

Okafor(projected to be #1) Cliff Alexander,Karl Towns,Mario Hezonja, Tyrus Jones,Emmanuel Mudiay,Trey Lyles etc.

would you rather have one of those guys from this draft, or one of the guys from 2015, personally i think the 9th pick this year could be top 5 next year depending on who it is

we also have to consider trading the pick, what could we get for it? and also there is the big time risk Detroit improves from this year (hard not to do they are terrible) and makes the playoffs and even if they don't improve other teams will be in tank mode again for Okafor

If we don't get the pick I want to use it to acquire a really nice player in the offseason. Could use upgrades at SG, SF, and probably PF as well.

how nice, like all-star nice or lots of potential nice or another kind of nice

Doubt we can get all-star nice unless we include something with it. Pelicans got Holiday (at the time coming off an all star type year) for Noel and a 2014 first rounder. Maybe we can package the Pistons pick plus out 2015 first rounder for something pretty nice. If were going to trade for something with potential Id rather just keep the pick to be honest.

[JDR720]

If we don't get the pick I want to use it to acquire a really nice player in the offseason. Could use upgrades at SG, SF, and probably PF as well.

how nice, like all-star nice or lots of potential nice or another kind of nice

Doubt we can get all-star nice unless we include something with it. Pelicans got Holiday (at the time coming off an all star type year) for Noel and a 2014 first rounder. Maybe we can package the Pistons pick plus out 2015 first rounder for something pretty nice. If were going to trade for something with potential Id rather just keep the pick to be honest.

what ever way we go (if we don't get it this year) has a lot of risk pretty much anyway you look at it, we could hit the lotto or go bankrupt and get screwed over, i kinda want to get it this year so we won't be stressed out next season over a pick

[JDR720]

Portland lost again and DET won tonight next games for each

POR @ SA
DET @ TOR

Prediction- Both lose

[Elden Payton]

The Detroit pick has awesome value to us, imo.

In regards to the pick we owe, that pick has turned into a nothing pick, and the Det pick is a better pick (if we get it this season)

In regards to if we keep it, I think Detroit has too much talent to be too bad for the forseeable future.

[MasterIchiro]

We own picks 10 and 24 and we could own a top-1 protected 2015 pick plus pick 21 as trade assets. We need to start thinking beyond draft and view these picks as players in general, whether draftees or trade acquisitions. Our cap space and improved rep with Al and Kemba will help us add more talent as well. Watching these picks should be fun. I think it's win-win. And if the Blazers pick ends up 21, how could we complain we didn't get it at 13 in that last terrible draft last year? This is better. So the same good fortune could help us with the Pistons pick. It's more likely the Pistons are no better or even worse. Their risk of losing a much higher pick in 2015 is way worse than losing pick 9 or 10 or 11 now.

[Liver_Pooty]

The Detroit pick has awesome value to us, imo.

In regards to the pick we owe, that pick has turned into a nothing pick, and the Det pick is a better pick (if we get it this season)

In regards to if we keep it, I think Detroit has too much talent to be too bad for the forseeable future.

We need to be careful and not do what Chicago did, though. Before this season, and even during certain parts of the season our pick owed to Chicago was one of the more, if not the most valuable asset in the league. Chicago was in plenty of trade discussions regarding the pick, but regarded the pick as untouchable.

I don't want to repeat that mistake, at all. Especially since Detroit can sign and trade Monroe for a good player, put Smith at his natural PF spot, get a Doug McDemott at SF, a competent coach, and a new GM that knows what hes doing. I want the pick now. Better safe that sorry.

[Liver_Pooty]

We own picks 10 and 24 and we could own a top-1 protected 2015 pick plus pick 21 as trade assets. We need to start thinking beyond draft and view these picks as players in general, whether draftees or trade acquisitions. Our cap space and improved rep with Al and Kemba will help us add more talent as well. Watching these picks should be fun. I think it's win-win. And if the Blazers pick ends up 21, how could we complain we didn't get it at 13 in that last terrible draft last year? This is better. So the same good fortune could help us with the Pistons pick. It's more likely the Pistons are no better or even worse. Their risk of losing a much higher pick in 2015 is way worse than losing pick 9 or 10 or 11 now.

Detroit will not be picking in the top 10 next year. I can almost guarantee it. Drummond is about to have a beastly insane season, and I don't want to bet against that.

[JDR720]

The Pistons will make the playoffs next season, the only reason they didn't make it this year (or probably wont) was players out of position and bad coaching

[Elden Payton]

The Detroit pick has awesome value to us, imo.

In regards to the pick we owe, that pick has turned into a nothing pick, and the Det pick is a better pick (if we get it this season)

In regards to if we keep it, I think Detroit has too much talent to be too bad for the forseeable future.

We need to be careful and not do what Chicago did, though. Before this season, and even during certain parts of the season our pick owed to Chicago was one of the more, if not the most valuable asset in the league. Chicago was in plenty of trade discussions regarding the pick, but regarded the pick as untouchable.

I don't want to repeat that mistake, at all. Especially since Detroit can sign and trade Monroe for a good player, put Smith at his natural PF spot, get a Doug McDemott at SF, a competent coach, and a new GM that knows what hes doing. I want the pick now. Better safe that sorry.

I agree completely.

Especially when the player we basically need is Hendo with a three ball, which could be drafted at #9 or #10 or traded for with that pick.

[Snidely FC]

I thought all season that our goal this year should be to keep either the DET or CHA pick. Until two weeks ago, when it looked like we were safely getting DET's pick, I was happy that we were trying to win, make the playoffs. Now that it seems clear that DET is tanking to keep their pick, I wonder if it makes sense for Al Jefferson's ankle to catch a virus or some such. Really, what IS more important going forward, first round playoff loss, or lottery pick talent? I'm torn here. It just strikes me as shortsighted to give up on having a top 14 pick in this year's draft.

[HornetJail]

I thought all season that our goal this year should be to keep either the DET or CHA pick. Until two weeks ago, when it looked like we were safely getting DET's pick, I was happy that we were trying to win, make the playoffs. Now that it seems clear that DET is tanking to keep their pick, I wonder if it makes sense for Al Jefferson's ankle to catch a virus or some such. Really, what IS more important going forward, first round playoff loss, or lottery pick talent? I'm torn here. It just strikes me as shortsighted to give up on having a top 14 pick in this year's draft.

We might have to lose every game from here on out to nab the 10th pick. Not worth it. Definitely not worth it.

[Snidely FC]

Oh well, our GM seems to have an expert eye for role players so maybe we're better being a Bulls-style team with a fantastic coach and reliable defense that plugs in late round role players every year.

[MasterIchiro]

I would think Cho can trade the Pistons top-1 protected pick well in advance of the next draft if he deems it a risk of being a mid lottery pick next year. It's worth more than that right now I bet so he could/should be able to sell high. You can't just automatically devalue the pick and say oh well I guarantee Detroit will be much better and make the playoffs yadda yadaa therefore the top-1 protection is worthless. So to me the fear of the Pistons pulling a Blazers is irrational. We're going to get good value from the pick.

[yosemiteben]

I mean, I don't think it's irrational. If Detroit starts out like Portland did this season, that pick is absolutely going to lose tremendous value. That's a fact.

[JDR720]

If we have the DET pick next year doesn't mean Cho will try and trade it and the other teams might not want to trade for it before they find out how good the Pistons are, the odds are good that we get completely screwed over next season and other teams fear the same thing if they wanted to trade for it......and besides it doesn't matter how valuable it is what matters is how much other teams are willing to give for it which probably won't be much because its a big risk for them and the odds are it won't be a very high pick

[MasterIchiro]

You guys act like a top-1 protected pick is tough to trade.

Let me tell you the absolute most horrific thing is that the Pistons make the playoffs THIS year.

I'm rooting for them to lose every single game. They are 3 out.