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MasterIchiro wrote:You guys act like a top-1 protected pick is tough to trade.
Let me tell you the absolute most horrific thing is that the Pistons make the playoffs THIS year.
I'm rooting for them to lose every single game. They are 3 out.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
MasterIchiro wrote:I'd 1000x rather have top-1 protection on next year's pick than pick 15 with the Pistons pick this year. There is no comparison. I want them to lose every single game.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
Bobcats fan here. I want your pick to lose protection and carry over to 2015 as a top-1 protected pick as I don't envision a draftee necessarily. Instead I look at the pick as more of an asset in general. I am greatly outnumbered on my board due to fans' perception of Drummond combined with some scarring from the Blazers tanking last year to keep their pick (they selected McCollum) and becoming a powerhouse team literally overnight.
I don't see any immediate help on your horizon.
The top-5 of this years draft may provide instant impact. Beyond that, these rookies need at least more than one year to develop and potentially help you improve. But will it be more than your competition? The teams ahead of the Pistons can stay ahead next year because they will be drafting comparable players in the 8-15 range. Not much separates those players in terms of talent. So while the Pistons could really stand to improve by developing a player like Tyler Ennis the next 2 or 3 years, other teams can also improve by drafting players like Gary Harris, Marcus Smart, Doug McDermott etc.
I look at other teams and see clearer paths to improvement. The Hawks get back Horford and they're the nearest playoff spot. The Bobcats could have nearly 20 M in cap space, a Blazers 1st anywhere from 21-24 and let's assume a significant trade asset in a top-1 protected Pistons pick. Kemba is also improving and Clifford has the allegiance of the team and players collectively buying into the team concept. The Nets have all kinds of money and talent (granted, old). The Knicks are due for a correction and being in a big market kind of puts pressure on them to make the right moves (thus the hiring of Phil Jackson). The Cavs have loads of talent and will draft near the Pistons (or win the 1st overall pick again).
So who are the Pistons most likely to catch above them? I don't see it.
I consider Jennings and J. Smith unmovable and I consider Monroe's value limited if he signs and offer sheet and becomes a rental.
Tank at will.
Biz Gilwalker wrote:I would MUCH rather get the 9th or 10th pick this year than wait for Detroit's management to pull their heads from its collective ass and do just ONE of these things:
hire a real coach OR
trade Jennings OR
trade Smith OR
trade Monroe OR
get a real floor spacer OR
not whiff on another top 8 pick OR
continue to let Drummond improve substantially.
If just one of those seven things happens, their pick will be higher next year. The only way it gets worse is if they decline in every way possible. They really can't go much further south. We need that pick this year.
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MasterIchiro wrote:The Blazers pick at 21 would be a huge relief considering their fast start.
I think pick 21 in 2014 is more valuable than pick 13 in 2013. We're going to get a decent player maybe even James Young.
doc.end wrote:I don't know most of the college kids, but i like me some Montrezl (Faried 2.0).
fatlever wrote:i am putting the current odds on us getting that pistons pick this year at about 40%