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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#81 » by narmerguy » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:35 am

Mugiwara wrote:Better choke now than when it matters.


It matters now as far as seeding is concerned.
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Post#82 » by Dupas » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:03 pm

narmerguy wrote:
Mugiwara wrote:Better choke now than when it matters.


It matters now as far as seeding is concerned.

2/3 of our rings came from not beeing in the first seed. Its good but its not a do or die situation
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#83 » by Mugiwara » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:58 pm

narmerguy wrote:
Mugiwara wrote:Better choke now than when it matters.


It matters now as far as seeding is concerned.


Last time I checked, NBA Champion > Regular season champion.
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#84 » by CodyB_ » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:27 pm

He looks flat. Maybe he should for a few games or focus on running the point for a few games and contributing more defensively where he has sucked this season.
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Post#85 » by HIF » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:18 pm

Lebron needs a mental break.

We don't need him in order to win every game.
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#86 » by narmerguy » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:45 pm

Mugiwara wrote:
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Mugiwara wrote:Better choke now than when it matters.


It matters now as far as seeding is concerned.


Last time I checked, NBA Champion > Regular season champion.


Last time I checked, the last NBA Champion was fortunate to have two Game 7's at home, where they win more of their matches.

Before you babies get your panties in a knot, I clearly am not saying that the regular season determines the ultimate champion, but to characterize it as something that doesn't matter is also false. Welcome to the real world, it's not all black and white.
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#87 » by S Curry » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:43 pm

Sine we are not getting the 1st seed, and since a few losses would still leave us in the 2nd in the east why not shut him down for few games, a rest might do him good, he is clearly not playing good and the rest can't hurt....
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Post#88 » by Romerowned » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:39 pm

Lebron not happy with the offense. This needs to change.
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Post#89 » by DWadeno3 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:39 pm

Romerowned wrote:Lebron not happy with the offense. This needs to change.


Did he say anything about the offense? He just said he's out of rhythm and needs to adjust to a more present Wade, that's all. It's good that he has to do it now rather than in the playoffs. It's natural for him to have to adjust, especially since he had some games with ridiculously high USG% before.
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Post#90 » by Romerowned » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:55 pm

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Romerowned wrote:Lebron not happy with the offense. This needs to change.


Did he say anything about the offense? He just said he's out of rhythm and needs to adjust to a more present Wade, that's all. It's good that he has to do it now rather than in the playoffs. It's natural for him to have to adjust, especially since he had some games with ridiculously high USG% before.



http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamih ... -continues

Before Friday’s game, James said that the way the offense had been running in recent games “hasn't worked for me, especially with us losing four out of five.”

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles ... Art=363687

“The first half, I felt pretty good,” said James. “We didn’t go back to some of the sets that we had in the first half ... and got out of rhythm. It’s been that way as of late. It’s just sets we were calling.”
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#91 » by heatlespeatles » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:13 pm

Romerowned wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:
Romerowned wrote:Lebron not happy with the offense. This needs to change.


Did he say anything about the offense? He just said he's out of rhythm and needs to adjust to a more present Wade, that's all. It's good that he has to do it now rather than in the playoffs. It's natural for him to have to adjust, especially since he had some games with ridiculously high USG% before.



http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamih ... -continues

Before Friday’s game, James said that the way the offense had been running in recent games “hasn't worked for me, especially with us losing four out of five.”

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles ... Art=363687


“The first half, I felt pretty good,” said James. “We didn’t go back to some of the sets that we had in the first half ... and got out of rhythm. It’s been that way as of late. It’s just sets we were calling.”


for one it doesn't even seem like they run plays, they just always look like they do their own thing.

and Lebron has shown he cant be that effective unless he is in full control of the game and decision making.

I know wade is feeling it ala the MAVS series, but for crying out loud don't let this fk shid cause us to lose another series because Wade becomes ball dominant. I see the signs of it already. Just do what we know works and got us two back to back chips. IF we need lebron ball dominant to win, lets ride with that. Lebron can work on his cutting and being aggressive without the ball in the off season. (i would love for him to play better without the ball but when he doesnt have the ball, he can be cutting all night and they seem unable to get a pass to him 90% of the time)

Im serious, its too late in the season to be having these issues, go with what works. Lebron being ball dominant works because everyone gets shots and our chemistry is fine. This whole Chalmers running the show, then Ray then wade then beasley comes in and its him. Nah, this aint a free for all.
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#92 » by SweetTouch » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:41 pm

No what doesn't work

Is when they run two point guards

That's never worked

That's infuriating the most

Lebron can deal with one dumbass out there, but having two dumbasses is too much


Two title runs we hardly ever ran two PG lineups, not sure why we started this season
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#93 » by BballMania47 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:44 am

heatlespeatles wrote:
Romerowned wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:
Did he say anything about the offense? He just said he's out of rhythm and needs to adjust to a more present Wade, that's all. It's good that he has to do it now rather than in the playoffs. It's natural for him to have to adjust, especially since he had some games with ridiculously high USG% before.



http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamih ... -continues

Before Friday’s game, James said that the way the offense had been running in recent games “hasn't worked for me, especially with us losing four out of five.”

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles ... Art=363687


“The first half, I felt pretty good,” said James. “We didn’t go back to some of the sets that we had in the first half ... and got out of rhythm. It’s been that way as of late. It’s just sets we were calling.”


for one it doesn't even seem like they run plays, they just always look like they do their own thing.

and Lebron has shown he cant be that effective unless he is in full control of the game and decision making.

I know wade is feeling it ala the MAVS series, but for crying out loud don't let this fk shid cause us to lose another series because Wade becomes ball dominant. I see the signs of it already. Just do what we know works and got us two back to back chips. IF we need lebron ball dominant to win, lets ride with that. Lebron can work on his cutting and being aggressive without the ball in the off season. (i would love for him to play better without the ball but when he doesnt have the ball, he can be cutting all night and they seem unable to get a pass to him 90% of the time)

Im serious, its too late in the season to be having these issues, go with what works. Lebron being ball dominant works because everyone gets shots and our chemistry is fine. This whole Chalmers running the show, then Ray then wade then beasley comes in and its him. Nah, this aint a free for all.


I agree, it's been obvious that he's not the number one option and has been playing without the ball more. This would be okay but we have lousy passers. LeBron on the ball works because he can find cutters. Chalmers, Cole and even Wade seems to struggle sometimes making that difficult pass. LeBron is daring with his passes. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't but I get tired of our guards missing him on cuts and dives because a) poor court vision and b) they are scared to commit a turnover. Some are actually basic passes that a guard should be able to make. Chalmers has the ball way too much now. We are too close to the post season to be experimenting. Put the ball back in Bron's hands and let him dominant.
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#94 » by Mugiwara » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:48 am

heatlespeatles wrote:for one it doesn't even seem like they run plays, they just always look like they do their own thing.


amen to that.
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Post#95 » by DWadeno3 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:12 am

Romerowned wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:
Romerowned wrote:Lebron not happy with the offense. This needs to change.


Did he say anything about the offense? He just said he's out of rhythm and needs to adjust to a more present Wade, that's all. It's good that he has to do it now rather than in the playoffs. It's natural for him to have to adjust, especially since he had some games with ridiculously high USG% before.



http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamih ... -continues

Before Friday’s game, James said that the way the offense had been running in recent games “hasn't worked for me, especially with us losing four out of five.”

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles ... Art=363687

“The first half, I felt pretty good,” said James. “We didn’t go back to some of the sets that we had in the first half ... and got out of rhythm. It’s been that way as of late. It’s just sets we were calling.”


If he's pointing to a lack of execution, then that's fine but nothing needs to change about the offense itself, we just need to execute better. But other than that, he needs to quit his whining and just play better. He has the ball in his hands plenty of times, but if he turns down open 5-foot jumpers, only he himself can help him.
He had the highest USG% against the Nets and he still didn't make **** out of it. All this nonsense about him not having the ball enough is just a poor apology for him.
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#96 » by HIF » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:07 am

DWadeno3 wrote:
Romerowned wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:
Did he say anything about the offense? He just said he's out of rhythm and needs to adjust to a more present Wade, that's all. It's good that he has to do it now rather than in the playoffs. It's natural for him to have to adjust, especially since he had some games with ridiculously high USG% before.



http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamih ... -continues

Before Friday’s game, James said that the way the offense had been running in recent games “hasn't worked for me, especially with us losing four out of five.”

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles ... Art=363687

“The first half, I felt pretty good,” said James. “We didn’t go back to some of the sets that we had in the first half ... and got out of rhythm. It’s been that way as of late. It’s just sets we were calling.”


If he's pointing to a lack of execution, then that's fine but nothing needs to change about the offense itself, we just need to execute better. But other than that, he needs to quit his whining and just play better. He has the ball in his hands plenty of times, but if he turns down open 5-foot jumpers, only he himself can help him.
He had the highest USG% against the Nets and he still didn't make **** out of it. All this nonsense about him not having the ball enough is just a poor apology for him.



This 100%.

He has the ball nearly every time down the court. What he needs to do is give the ball up quicker to get it back.
pisses me off when he holds it for 12+ secs and then throws up a jump shot.
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Post#97 » by MoneyMo » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:38 pm

LeBron on Wade's return to health/role: "It's better for the team, but it's kind of gotten me out of rhythm right now."
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Post#98 » by Hoopz Afrik » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:25 pm

Yeah, I'm not really feeling all of the excuses LeBron has been tossing around. From the sets, to Dwyane Wade getting him out of his rhythm, etc.....You're LeBron James and we're the HEAT, the gold standard of the NBA. Shut the bs up and let's just do what we do best, DOMINATE!!!!
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Post#99 » by DWadeno3 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:25 pm

LeBron_da_Don wrote:Yeah, I'm not really feeling all of the excuses LeBron has been tossing around. From the sets, to Dwyane Wade getting him out of his rhythm, etc.....You're LeBron James and we're the HEAT, the gold standard of the NBA. Shut the bs up and let's just do what we do best, DOMINATE!!!!


I don't consider them excuses to be honest. If you're used to doing things a certain way on the court and suddenly they change, it can throw you off guard. In basketball, rhythm is always key and you can easily get thrown out of it, no matter how talented you are. It's not as if he's completely fallen off the map, he's just struggled a bit. Earlier in the year Wade was complaining about not having the ball enough at the top of the key when Bron is on the bench just to establish a rhythm for himself and we've fixed that. I'm confident Wade and James will manage to both be in a good rhythm while they both dominate. They've done it before, it's just a matter of getting used to each other again since Wade has been pretty passive previously.
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Re: LeBron's "post Beast Mode" slump 

Post#100 » by RSCD3_ » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:19 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:
LeBron_da_Don wrote:Yeah, I'm not really feeling all of the excuses LeBron has been tossing around. From the sets, to Dwyane Wade getting him out of his rhythm, etc.....You're LeBron James and we're the HEAT, the gold standard of the NBA. Shut the bs up and let's just do what we do best, DOMINATE!!!!


I don't consider them excuses to be honest. If you're used to doing things a certain way on the court and suddenly they change, it can throw you off guard. In basketball, rhythm is always key and you can easily get thrown out of it, no matter how talented you are. It's not as if he's completely fallen off the map, he's just struggled a bit. Earlier in the year Wade was complaining about not having the ball enough at the top of the key when Bron is on the bench just to establish a rhythm for himself and we've fixed that. I'm confident Wade and James will manage to both be in a good rhythm while they both dominate. They've done it before, it's just a matter of getting used to each other again since Wade has been pretty passive previously.


case in point Wade and james in the 2012 Indiana series during games 4-6
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