2014 Free Agency Thread

Post #141 » by **JDR720** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:18 pm

I dont really think there will be a PF at the DET pick that would start over Zeller/McBob unless Randle falls all the way down there, if we want a PF we will have to sign one

Post #142 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:37 pm

JDR720 wrote:I dont really think there will be a PF at the DET pick that would start over Zeller/McBob unless Randle falls all the way down there, if we want a PF we will have to sign one

Randle's game is not at all similar to McBob's. I don't know who Thaliontil has in mind, but Adrien Payne is about the only college guy that fits his description and I'm not at all convinced that he would be an improvement.

With that said, it would be interesting if Montrezl Harrell was somehow available with the Portland pick. I can see him being a good pairing with Al.

Thaliontil · Post #143 » by **Thaliontil** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:53 am

I repeat that I can´t watch NCAA at all, so I just follow the "Promise profile" in Mock Drafts websites. I was thinking about Dario Saric or Noah Vonleh, which was our selection in a majority of mock drafts some weeks ago (Now he seems to have risen).

The problem is that I can´t imagine a realistic free agent/trade scenario which could give us a solid improvement over McRoberts.

tondi123 · Post #144 » by **tondi123** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:53 pm

I think we will be looking at guys who can defend, shooters, and possibly a backup PG in the draft, depending on who is available when we end up picking. If we keep McRob I don't really see us drafting another PF who will sit behind him and Cody.

gehenherzog · Post #145 » by **gehenherzog** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:00 pm

I have found that only unc fans really want PJ Hairston. We need to stay far away from that guy.

Post #146 » by **JDR720** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:16 pm

Thaliontil wrote:I repeat that I can´t watch NCAA at all, so I just follow the "Promise profile" in Mock Drafts websites. I was thinking about Dario Saric or Noah Vonleh, which was our selection in a majority of mock drafts some weeks ago (Now he seems to have risen).

The problem is that I can´t imagine a realistic free agent/trade scenario which could give us a solid improvement over McRoberts.

we don't need one we have Zeller he will start next season we need to find his backup

Post #147 » by **JDR720** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:18 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
JDR720 wrote:I dont really think there will be a PF at the DET pick that would start over Zeller/McBob unless Randle falls all the way down there, if we want a PF we will have to sign one

Randle's game is not at all similar to McBob's. I don't know who Thaliontil has in mind, but Adrien Payne is about the only college guy that fits his description and I'm not at all convinced that he would be an improvement.

With that said, it would be interesting if Montrezl Harrell was somehow available with the Portland pick. I can see him being a good pairing with Al.

I didn't say anything about Randle being similar to McBob i was just talking about PF's in general

Post #148 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:23 pm

Yeah, wasn't responding to you, was talking about Thaliontil because he was saying we could get an upgrade over McBob who could stretch the floor with an outside shot. That's not Randle's game.

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BeesWax · Post #149 » by **BeesWax** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:45 pm

gehenherzog wrote:I have found that only unc fans really want PJ Hairston. We need to stay far away from that guy.

I think it is more fans who want a shooter scorer. He would be a way better pick than Harris or young for us at this point. Hood is my choice but Hairston would be a good back up plan.

gehenherzog · Post #150 » by **gehenherzog** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:00 pm

jdm3 wrote:
gehenherzog wrote:I have found that only unc fans really want PJ Hairston. We need to stay far away from that guy.

I think it is more fans who want a shooter scorer. He would be a way better pick than Harris or young for us at this point. Hood is my choice but Hairston would be a good back up plan.

Just no.

Hairston isn't worth grabbing unless it's with our 2nd round pick.

He's come back to reality in the past month and half. I've watched him enough to know I want nothing to do with him. He's inconsistent.

Post #151 » by **JDR720** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:48 pm

I'd pick PJ with the Portland pick, late first round is where you get role players that might be a starter one day PJ fits that description the least he could be is a 3&D player

BeesWax · Post #152 » by **BeesWax** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:08 pm

gehenherzog wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
gehenherzog wrote:I have found that only unc fans really want PJ Hairston. We need to stay far away from that guy.

I think it is more fans who want a shooter scorer. He would be a way better pick than Harris or young for us at this point. Hood is my choice but Hairston would be a good back up plan.

Just no.

Hairston isn't worth grabbing unless it's with our 2nd round pick.

He's come back to reality in the past month and half. I've watched him enough to know I want nothing to do with him. He's inconsistent.

When he got minutes he got consistent. Just like any scorer he needs time regularly to do well consistently. He is way more consistent than Harris or Young have ever shown. He also can play on both ends. He won't last until the second round, he is a mid-first talent.

gehenherzog · Post #153 » by **gehenherzog** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:11 pm

jdm3 wrote:
gehenherzog wrote:
jdm3 wrote:I think it is more fans who want a shooter scorer. He would be a way better pick than Harris or young for us at this point. Hood is my choice but Hairston would be a good back up plan.

Just no.

Hairston isn't worth grabbing unless it's with our 2nd round pick.

He's come back to reality in the past month and half. I've watched him enough to know I want nothing to do with him. He's inconsistent.

When he got minutes he got consistent. Just like any scorer he needs time regularly to do well consistently. He is way more consistent than Harris or Young have ever shown. He also can play on both ends. He won't last until the second round, he is a mid-first talent.

You're a unc fan?

I've seen multiple draft projections with him going early 2nd round.

If a team takes him mid 1st round, they'll regret it. He's simply not good. He had 3 games in the DLeague (glorified AAU game) that he went off and the rest he's struggled.

Post #154 » by **JDR720** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:29 pm

I wouldn't say PJ has struggled he is averaging 21pts and 3.7rebs on good shooting percentages (45% overall 36% from 3 88% FT) in 20 D-League games also don't forget he was UNC's best player last season

BeesWax · Post #155 » by **BeesWax** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:31 pm

gehenherzog wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
gehenherzog wrote:

Just no.

Hairston isn't worth grabbing unless it's with our 2nd round pick.

He's come back to reality in the past month and half. I've watched him enough to know I want nothing to do with him. He's inconsistent.

When he got minutes he got consistent. Just like any scorer he needs time regularly to do well consistently. He is way more consistent than Harris or Young have ever shown. He also can play on both ends. He won't last until the second round, he is a mid-first talent.

You're a unc fan?

I've seen multiple draft projections with him going early 2nd round.

If a team takes him mid 1st round, they'll regret it. He's simply not good. He had 3 games in the DLeague (glorified AAU game) that he went off and the rest he's struggled.

I assume you are a Duke fan or have not watched him play much. Once he was moved into the starting line up his last season at UNC he led the team in scoring and shot over 40% from three. Now in the D-league he is averaging over 21 points and shooting 36% from three. He would be a better starter at SG right now than Henderson. If a team takes him mid-first they will get a steal and I would say the same about Warren both those guys have NBA bodies and skills.

gehenherzog · Post #156 » by **gehenherzog** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:56 am

37-64 in 3 games
99-238 in the rest.

Averaging 21 points in the D League isn't impressive.

Seth Curry is averaging close to 20 and can't crack an NBA roster

gehenherzog · Post #157 » by **gehenherzog** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:01 am

jdm3 wrote:
gehenherzog wrote:
jdm3 wrote:When he got minutes he got consistent. Just like any scorer he needs time regularly to do well consistently. He is way more consistent than Harris or Young have ever shown. He also can play on both ends. He won't last until the second round, he is a mid-first talent.

You're a unc fan?

I've seen multiple draft projections with him going early 2nd round.

If a team takes him mid 1st round, they'll regret it. He's simply not good. He had 3 games in the DLeague (glorified AAU game) that he went off and the rest he's struggled.

I assume you are a Duke fan or have not watched him play much. Once he was moved into the starting line up his last season at UNC he led the team in scoring and shot over 40% from three. Now in the D-league he is averaging over 21 points and shooting 36% from three. He would be a better starter at SG right now than Henderson. If a team takes him mid-first they will get a steal and I would say the same about Warren both those guys have NBA bodies and skills.

You are out of your mind if you think he's better starter than Henderson right now and Henderson is one of my least favorite players on the team. Get of Here with that homer mess. I've probably seen Hairston play 15 games. He has his games where he's solid...then he disappears

Elden Payton · Post #158 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:12 am

Hairston is looking like a guy that is worthy of being a mid-late first, he's no doubt got the talent to play a role in this league.

Just because he's playing in the D-League, does not mean he is inferior to players that are still in the NCAA.

BeesWax · Post #159 » by **BeesWax** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:42 am

gehenherzog wrote:37-64 in 3 games
99-238 in the rest.

Averaging 21 points in the D League isn't impressive.

Seth Curry is averaging close to 20 and can't crack an NBA roster

Seth Curry is not near the athlete Hairston is and he is shooting worse percentages across the board. Hairston would be a better option for in the Henderson. That is not homer crap it is true. He at least spaces the floor as well as being able to drive and shooting better percentages than Henderson. You should go watch more than 15 games worth and see what he can do. Is he perfect? No but he is better than you give him credit for by a long shot. He would be the best player on the board at the Portland pick if he fell that far which is doubtful.

gehenherzog · Post #160 » by **gehenherzog** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:18 am

jdm3 wrote:
gehenherzog wrote:37-64 in 3 games
99-238 in the rest.

Averaging 21 points in the D League isn't impressive.

Seth Curry is averaging close to 20 and can't crack an NBA roster

Seth Curry is not near the athlete Hairston is and he is shooting worse percentages across the board. Hairston would be a better option for in the Henderson. That is not homer crap it is true. He at least spaces the floor as well as being able to drive and shooting better percentages than Henderson. You should go watch more than 15 games worth and see what he can do. Is he perfect? No but he is better than you give him credit for by a long shot. He would be the best player on the board at the Portland pick if he fell that far which is doubtful.

Remind me not to read what you post anymore. If you legitimately believe he's better than Hendo

Other than 3 games, he shoots the same from 3 as Gerald Henderson and a lower percentage overall. He plays against less talent in a league designed to showcase an offensive game