McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread

catch20two · Post #361 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:27 am

We can't keep giving out these charity contracts to every player that plays half decent for our average team. We need to upgrade to compete with the better teams in the league. Good teams like Brooklyn (Blatche), Toronto (Patterson), Miami (Beasley), Indiana (Scola) got better backup PFs than McBob. If he opt out, let him go.

Liver_Pooty · Post #362 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:31 am

catch20two wrote:We can't keep giving out these charity contracts to every player that plays half decent for our average team. We need to upgrade to compete with the better teams in the league. Good teams like Brooklyn (Blatche), Toronto (Patterson), Miami (Beasley), Indiana (Scola) got better backup PFs than McBob. If he opt out, let him go.

2 years 8 million for a solid backup PF is not a "charity contract".

catch20two · Post #363 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:36 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:We can't keep giving out these charity contracts to every player that plays half decent for our average team. We need to upgrade to compete with the better teams in the league. Good teams like Brooklyn (Blatche), Toronto (Patterson), Miami (Beasley), Indiana (Scola) got better backup PFs than McBob. If he opt out, let him go.

2 years 8 million for a solid backup PF is not a "charity contract".

To me it would be. I don't want to pay him over 3.5 mil per year. The same way I'm looking at that Hendo contract as hard to get rid of I'm looking at the possibility of re-signing McBob if he opt out. There's some good talent at PF in this year's draft and even more in next year's.

Liver_Pooty · Post #364 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:42 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:We can't keep giving out these charity contracts to every player that plays half decent for our average team. We need to upgrade to compete with the better teams in the league. Good teams like Brooklyn (Blatche), Toronto (Patterson), Miami (Beasley), Indiana (Scola) got better backup PFs than McBob. If he opt out, let him go.

2 years 8 million for a solid backup PF is not a "charity contract".

To me it would be. I don't want to pay him over 3.5 mil per year. The same way I'm looking at that Hendo contract as hard to get rid of I'm looking at the possibility of re-signing McBob if he opt out. There's some good talent at PF in this year's draft and even more in next year's.

You don't want to pay him over 3.5 a year, but 4 a year would be charity. OK.

I can agree with 3.5

catch20two · Post #365 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:51 am

It's charity because he's not really worth 4 mil. Sure he's important to us because of his skill sets but 8pts and 5rebs in over 30 minutes a game isn't worth it. He's not even a double double player per 36. I like McBob but if he opt out I wish him good luck finding a team that'll be willing to pay him. His numbers aren't that impressive for as much as he touch the ball for us. I hope he doesn't opt out but if he do, farewell.

Liver_Pooty · Post #366 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:53 am

catch20two wrote:It's charity because he's not really worth 4 mil. Sure he's important to us because of his skill sets but 8pts and 5rebs in over 30 minutes a game isn't worth it. He's not even a double double player per 36. I like McBob but if he opt out I wish him good luck finding a team that'll be willing to pay him. His numbers aren't that impressive for as much as he touch the ball for us. I hope he doesn't opt out but if he do, farewell.

Someone has to initiate the offense and pass the ball around, thats for sure.

I hope he doesn't opt out as well.

catch20two · Post #367 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:40 am

I feel like that's the problem. I don't want McBob initiating no offense, just setting up to shoot 3s and occasionally making the right passes when they are there. I hate when McBob start dribbling. Our best moments with McBob are the games when he make at least two 3s.

Post #368 » by **fatlever** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:43 am

based on some of these comments i think mcbob might be the most underrated player on the team.

Liver_Pooty · Post #369 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:48 am

fatlever wrote:based on some of these comments i think mcbob might be the most underrated player on the team.

I like him, a lot. He would be the perfect backup PF. If we let him go Ill be highly pissed.

mrknowitall215 · Post #370 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:52 am

I think Josh McRoberts is a little bit of both, overrated & underrated, on this board. As 'Liver_Pooty' stated, he would make a "perfect backup PF", but his role has increased to mainstay starter due to the slower than initially expected development of Cody Zeller. If I was a GM, I would hesitate to give him a pay raise, but depending on what options are available via free agency, trade or draft, it's possible that I could bend enough to pay him somewhere between $3.5-4 million

MasterIchiro · Post #371 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:58 am

I think the plan was to draft Gary Harris, run more offense through the back court and have the option of letting McRoberts walk. Now I think they have to run the offense through McRoberts one more year because they won't spend big money on a shooting guard with Henderson and Neal earning 9 million between them already.

countryboi · Post #372 » by **countryboi** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:03 am

Dude was is with and Gary Harris?

catch20two · Post #373 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:04 am

F*ck Hendo. He's holding us back. He's the reason why MKG can't play over 30 minutes and the reason why we have to have McBob dribbling. Lol

LamarMatic7 · Post #374 » by **LamarMatic7** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:17 pm

catch20two wrote:We can't keep giving out these charity contracts to every player that plays half decent for our average team. We need to upgrade to compete with the better teams in the league. Good teams like Brooklyn (Blatche), Toronto (Patterson), Miami (Beasley), Indiana (Scola) got better backup PFs than McBob. If he opt out, let him go.

Do you really think that Beasley and Scola are better than McBob?

catch20two · Post #375 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:00 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
catch20two wrote:We can't keep giving out these charity contracts to every player that plays half decent for our average team. We need to upgrade to compete with the better teams in the league. Good teams like Brooklyn (Blatche), Toronto (Patterson), Miami (Beasley), Indiana (Scola) got better backup PFs than McBob. If he opt out, let him go.

Do you really think that Beasley and Scola are better than McBob?

Why yes. I would trade McBob today for Beasley if possible. Beasley might be a headcase but he has all star potential that he'll likely never reach and is as good as McBob at his worst. Scola is getting old and not having a great season this year and still putting up the same numbers as McBob in half the minutes minus the assist, not to mention his rappport over his career make him a better player than McBob.

LamarMatic7 · Post #376 » by **LamarMatic7** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:03 pm

catch20two wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:
catch20two wrote:We can't keep giving out these charity contracts to every player that plays half decent for our average team. We need to upgrade to compete with the better teams in the league. Good teams like Brooklyn (Blatche), Toronto (Patterson), Miami (Beasley), Indiana (Scola) got better backup PFs than McBob. If he opt out, let him go.

Do you really think that Beasley and Scola are better than McBob?

Why yes. I would trade McBob today for Beasley if possible. Beasley might be a headcase but he has all star potential that he'll likely never reach and is as good as McBob at his worst. Scola is getting old and not having a great season this year but his rappport over his career make him a better player than McBob.

wow.. we'd go only downhill if we traded McBob for Beasley.

as for Scola, I'm talking about the current season not his career accolades.

catch20two · Post #377 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:12 pm

You guys overrate and act like McBob is a top 20 starting PF. He's not. I like him. He has game. But he's not really starting material and the only reason why he's starting is because Zeller was far from ready at the beginning of the season. Anybody that think McBob is above average when it's arguable that he might be slightly below average is homeristic. Let's be honest. I can like the guy and be realistic about his limits.

HornetJail · Post #378 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:21 pm

McBob isn't going to be "ranked" as a top 20 PF, but he does what we need him to do- facilitate a little from the PF, hit threes, and be a threat to do anything on the floor. He's a great fit for Clifford's system and I don't think I could name 15 PFs that work play as well as McBob has in that role. He's not going off for 20/10, but the guy who will do everything, and come away with 10/5/5/2/2 and create a lot of opportunities for teammates. His presence shouldn't be taken for granted.

mrknowitall215 · Post #379 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:40 pm

Josh McRoberts is just 'serviceable', and shouldn't be considered a core piece that the team should hesitate to upgrade on. I understand his value to Charlotte, especially considering that Byron Mullens was the starting PF for a majority of last season, but if the Bobcats had a player of per se Amir Johnson of the Raptors caliber at starting PF they would have at least +3 wins on their record. The things that McRoberts do like floor spacing & facilitating is a luxury, but a player that can consistently score or rebound in double-figures would take this team a lot further. I don't take McRoberts' presence for granted, but I think he's replaceable --- easily --- for about $5 million annually

Snidely FC · Post #380 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:43 pm

It's not just Beasley's rep or craziness anymore, he's been exposed in MIA as a defensive liability that a good coach won't give minutes.

Scola looks like he's been drinking concrete milkshakes.

I'd take McBob over either of them any day of the week.