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Dat2U wrote:dckingsfan wrote:Was he the right pick based upon who we had on the team - I doubt my opinion of him will change that much.
Well I agree there. My opinion won't change. They should of drafted Noel. But that doesn't mean I think Porter won't turn into a very useful player at some point.
Kanyewest wrote:Otto Porter needs to get playing time. Although what he's done so far has been pretty disappointing. In his last game that he played significant minutes, he only took 1 shot. At least he's shooting a higher percentage this month at 50%. I think that the Wizards should go small- let Webster or Ariza play the 4, sit Singleton and Harrington, and let Porter get some minutes.
Dark Faze wrote:Kanyewest wrote:Otto Porter needs to get playing time. Although what he's done so far has been pretty disappointing. In his last game that he played significant minutes, he only took 1 shot. At least he's shooting a higher percentage this month at 50%. I think that the Wizards should go small- let Webster or Ariza play the 4, sit Singleton and Harrington, and let Porter get some minutes.
When Nene gets back the amount of offensive weapons are going to make Otto and Rice's development even less than it is now
They may as well assign him to the D-League
Ernie used the entire draft last year as if he was adding depth instead of looking for core pieces. It's crazy.
Kanyewest wrote:Otto Porter needs to get playing time. Although what he's done so far has been pretty disappointing. In his last game that he played significant minutes, he only took 1 shot. At least he's shooting a higher percentage this month at 50%. I think that the Wizards should go small- let Webster or Ariza play the 4, sit Singleton and Harrington, and let Porter get some minutes.
Induveca wrote:If he gets zero PT, how poorly must he be performing in practice? Doesn't bode well for the #3 pick on a .500 team to be completely ignored.
Dat2U wrote:Induveca wrote:If he gets zero PT, how poorly must he be performing in practice? Doesn't bode well for the #3 pick on a .500 team to be completely ignored.
You've got a coach more interested in saving his job than developing rookies. Is it really just about Porter not stepping up in practice or a coach just settling on the guys he trusts?
You've got Cleveland & Charlotte desperately fighting for playoff spots yet refusing to lose sight of the bigger picture and basically force feeding their picks 15-20 minutes a night even though both Bennett & Zeller clearly weren't ready early on. Now both are playing much better and are starting to contribute.
Meanwhile, Porter gets exactly two games because Webster is banged up, plays well in one and doesn't in the other and instantly he gets banished to the bench once again.
Most teams aren't even running too many full practices at this stage of the season. Guys are banged up and often times teams will hold either a lite practice or walk-through so it's likely just not about how bad Porter is looking in practice.
Irregardless of how he looks in warmups... he's the 3rd pick in the draft and he still hasn't played 250 minutes yet this year! That's simply unacceptable for a top 5 pick, only Darko Milicic got as little burn in the past 2 decades, but it's status quo for a franchise that has shown very little ability to develop "professional" basketball players.
stevemcqueen1 wrote:The coach needs to have control of his rotations. I don't like the idea of the GM or Owner dictating to the coach who plays. That's a dysfunctional set up.
The Consiglieri wrote:The crazy thing for me is that this pick actually turned out far worse than I expected. Being one of the anti-Porter contingent, I despised the pick from the jump, and when Noel somehow fell to us, I was ecstatic, and couldn't believe how lucky we were, only for that "blemp, blemp, blaaahhhhh" comedy cartoon trumpet blared as David Stern announced the pick.
I was just stunned at how unbelievably stupid we could be. It was incomprehensible to me, and this was expecting basically Porter to be something analogous to a poor man's Cal Cheney, a decent player nowhere near worth the slot investment, but serviceable, and a reasonable starter till you found something better.
I never imagined it could be anywhere near this disastrous, to actually play out as one of the worst picks ever since the horrific '00 draft (through one year).
Good lord.
This team is so thoroughly screwed. It's so depressing it's starting to become funny again.
The Consiglieri wrote:I agree, but I base these judgments upon the thinking and approach of the franchise at the time. If the fundamental thinking is flawed (and it consistently is), then random pieces of good luck (landing top 1 and 3 picks in drafts where Wall and Beal were clear #1, and #1A or 1B options at our slot) are immaterial, and what matters in the end, is the poor processing that motivated the decision.
Since the team collapsed in 2009, it's been clear that the F.O. has generally speaking, been incredibly inept in its evaluating, and in its long term decision making. Indeed only in 2010 and 2011 did they make anything remotely like intelligent decisions with their assets, and even then they still flubbed the vast bulk of the picks with only Wall to show for the two drafts, and oodles of draft picks. Even worse is the thinking that came into the Vesely pick, supposedly our choice heading into the '10 draft until Vesely pulled his name out (and we jumped to the 1 slot), a year extra to scout the guy and apparently we never noticed that he couldn't play a lick of basketball, nor make a jump shot or free throw. Insane. Then this offseason we keep Ariza, resign Webster, and then with a young, big man with huge upside sitting there for us to take, we draft a third string small forward instead. Whaaaaa?
Horrendous decision making from the top down.
I could justify that pick if Porter was the BPA, but he was nowhere near that. The pick was idiotic, the decision making involved was 10x worse, and that's the decision making we're relying upon to put the finishing touches on this Wizards '87-'88 redux debacle.
What a nightmare.
For the record, I am more than willing to accept that Porter could very well become a solid to good player. He's a hard worker, and smart as a whip, if he's got NBA talent, he'll show it given time.
So far, however, he's been a complete bust, and he was a bad pick, at slot, to begin with which is just making it look 10x worse than it was originally.
As CCJ mentioned, I've been disengaged as well. When I know this train is headed nowhere, and I do, I simply am not willing to invest a lot of time into it. I've got the Caps rebuild, Redskins rebuild, Nats, and the USMNT to occupy time, and nearly all of those squads have some hope, and competent management (well, theoretically).