Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread

[HornetJail]

No. I'm definitely confident in how much their team sucks and how difficult it is to change the chemistry with Josh Smith there, Jennings, no trade assets beyond a rental and Tyler Ennis, a player who is no different than the players who will be drafted by all the teams immediately ahead of the Pistons.

Against the weak East, the Pistons sucked this year. The East will be better next year.

i don't think you get it. the rest of the teams between us and them completely suck. atlanta is terrible, cleveland is even worse, new york is dysfunctional and i think melo's got one foot out the door. detroit just needs to fix ONE of a few problems: Jennings is one problem, Smith shooting threes out the ass is one problem, not having a shooting guard is one problem, not having an NBA caliber coach is one problem. They fix ONE of those things, and I think they are the 8th seed. I see no reason to believe otherwise. drummond's ceiling is ridiculous. they're going to have a top 8 pick. they have trade assets. they WILL improve. i don't see how this is hard to understand. detroit isn't going to be a bottom five team even if they stay put.

They are definitely a bottom 5 team. They have a raw center surrounded by complete garbage - COMPLETE GARBAGE

Monroe is far from garbage. Josh Smith in the correct role being coached the right way (aka not taking threes) is close to an All-Star talent. If Jennings is played the right way, he could be better than Kemba with his abilities. The Pistons have a young SG in KCP and I think they'll draft LaVine or McDermott with their pick if they get it. They just need to make a savvy coaching hire, or trade one of their cancerous players (Smith or Jennings) and I think they either make or narrowly miss the playoffs. Drummond is a legit all-star talent right now and will only continue to progress. That "raw" center already averages 13/13 or something like that with no basketball skills to speak of.

[MasterIchiro]

i don't think you get it. the rest of the teams between us and them completely suck. atlanta is terrible, cleveland is even worse, new york is dysfunctional and i think melo's got one foot out the door. detroit just needs to fix ONE of a few problems: Jennings is one problem, Smith shooting threes out the ass is one problem, not having a shooting guard is one problem, not having an NBA caliber coach is one problem. They fix ONE of those things, and I think they are the 8th seed. I see no reason to believe otherwise. drummond's ceiling is ridiculous. they're going to have a top 8 pick. they have trade assets. they WILL improve. i don't see how this is hard to understand. detroit isn't going to be a bottom five team even if they stay put.

They are definitely a bottom 5 team. They have a raw center surrounded by complete garbage - COMPLETE GARBAGE

a raw center maybe but that raw center could average 15/15 pretty easily

Surrounded by garbage

It's a good thing he collects it - makes him a perfect fit there.

[Elden Payton]

Honestly I don't think we should call any franchise sorry after the absolute mess we've been.

We should empathise with all fans of teams that presently suck!

The problem with the Pistons pick is that they do actually have a lot of talent on their roster and a little bit of wiggle room to rebuild out of Dumars ashes.

I see absolutely no problem with wanting the pick this year as a bird in the hand, is worth two in flight!

[MasterIchiro]

i don't think you get it. the rest of the teams between us and them completely suck. atlanta is terrible, cleveland is even worse, new york is dysfunctional and i think melo's got one foot out the door. detroit just needs to fix ONE of a few problems: Jennings is one problem, Smith shooting threes out the ass is one problem, not having a shooting guard is one problem, not having an NBA caliber coach is one problem. They fix ONE of those things, and I think they are the 8th seed. I see no reason to believe otherwise. drummond's ceiling is ridiculous. they're going to have a top 8 pick. they have trade assets. they WILL improve. i don't see how this is hard to understand. detroit isn't going to be a bottom five team even if they stay put.

They are definitely a bottom 5 team. They have a raw center surrounded by complete garbage - COMPLETE GARBAGE

Monroe is far from garbage. Josh Smith in the correct role being coached the right way (aka not taking threes) is close to an All-Star talent. If Jennings is played the right way, he could be better than Kemba with his abilities. The Pistons have a young SG in KCP and I think they'll draft LaVine or McDermott with their pick if they get it. They just need to make a savvy coaching hire, or trade one of their cancerous players (Smith or Jennings) and I think they either make or narrowly miss the playoffs. Drummond is a legit all-star talent right now and will only continue to progress. That "raw" center already averages 13/13 or something like that with no basketball skills to speak of.

Monroe doesn't fit with Smith who is going nowhere. Jennings is going nowhere. KCP LOL. They will not take LaVine or McDermott 8. Ford has them taking Ennis. Monroe as a trade asset is a one-year rental.

They are a complete mess. They have to do more than just tweaking to change that.

[MasterIchiro]

Honestly I don't think we should call any franchise sorry after the absolute mess we've been.

We should empathise with all fans of teams that presently suck!

The problem with the Pistons pick is that they do actually have a lot of talent on their roster and a little bit of wiggle room to rebuild out of Dumars ashes.

I see absolutely no problem with wanting the pick this year as a bird in the hand, is worth two in flight!

Plenty of talent on the Kings for years.

[yosemiteben]

Brandon Jennings is definitely not garbage. Greg Monroe is definitely not garbage. Josh Smith with a decent coach would definitely not be garbage. Their starting five is absolutely more talented than ours, they just don't have the coaching that we do.

Give Clifford Detroit's roster and they would dominate.

[Diop]

WOW the Pistons have up what? a 10000 point lead??

They are a sad, sad group of players. Poor Drummond. Can't wait till he leaves that sorry franchise.

You know what. I'll get banned for this and idc because I love my damn team. But sorry franchise? How many championships, conference titles, division titles and playoff appearances do the bobcats have? You can take our 3 championships, 7 conference titles (6 straight appearances), 9 division titles and put it where the sun doesn't shine. When you have some of those in your franchise, you'll have the right to call a franchise sorry.

relax NMerch, we could find trash talk about our team in almost every other thread on this forum, this is our place to vent.

We're just frustrated as you aren't going to give us that pick this year. I'm one of the believers who think you will improve next year and give us a crappy pick.

[HornetJail]

Brandon Jennings is definitely not garbage. Greg Monroe is definitely not garbage. Josh Smith with a decent coach would definitely not be garbage. Their starting five is absolutely more talented than ours, they just don't have the coaching that we do.

Give Clifford Detroit's roster and they would dominate.

true. he'd probably bench Smith for floor spacing

[MasterIchiro]

I look forward to all of you rooting against the Pistons next year. I think it's time to let go of the idea that we will be drafting in the top 10 of this draft.

A top-1 protected pick of a non-playoff team with as many issues as the Pistons is incredibly valuable no matter how you slice it.

I think if you're disappointed it's funny

[Elden Payton]

Honestly I don't think we should call any franchise sorry after the absolute mess we've been.

We should empathise with all fans of teams that presently suck!

The problem with the Pistons pick is that they do actually have a lot of talent on their roster and a little bit of wiggle room to rebuild out of Dumars ashes.

I see absolutely no problem with wanting the pick this year as a bird in the hand, is worth two in flight!

Plenty of talent on the Kings for years.

The Kings and the Pistons do not belong in the same sentence.

Detroit has always been revered for being the little engine that could, I'd never put it past them.

Calling them garbage is an absolute joke imo.

[JDR720]

They are definitely a bottom 5 team. They have a raw center surrounded by complete garbage - COMPLETE GARBAGE

a raw center maybe but that raw center could average 15/15 pretty easily

Surrounded by garbage

It's a good thing he collects it - makes him a perfect fit there.

put Josh at PF he becomes tons better because he isn't shooting as many threes, Jennings is still gonna shoot bad but with Drummond eating rebounds and Smith helping out that shouldn't matter much and draft a SG or SF that can shoot and spend their large amount of cap space wisely

PG-Jennings
SG-KCP or pick or FA
SF-pick of FA
PF-Smith
C-Drummond

they will get out of Charlie V's and Stucky's contracts (8.5 mill a piece) let Billups go (2.5million), there is literally no way they get worse with that cap space, the #8 or better pick, Smith playing his natural position and a new coach and GM and they should get a decent haul for Monroe if they sign and trade him, and if they dont thats just more cap space

[Diop]

Once Detroit started Smith at small forward they were in trouble. You don't want to encourage him to shoot the long ball.

[MasterIchiro]

Honestly I don't think we should call any franchise sorry after the absolute mess we've been.

We should empathise with all fans of teams that presently suck!

The problem with the Pistons pick is that they do actually have a lot of talent on their roster and a little bit of wiggle room to rebuild out of Dumars ashes.

I see absolutely no problem with wanting the pick this year as a bird in the hand, is worth two in flight!

Plenty of talent on the Kings for years.

The Kings and the Pistons do not belong in the same sentence.

Detroit has always been revered for being the little engine that could, I'd never put it past them.

Calling them garbage is an absolute joke imo.

I think the Kings are a perfect model of a dominant young center stuck with talented teammates who have no clue how to play within a system.

[Eoghan]

Also, don't forget that the Pistons will have Stuckey and Charlie V. coming off the books, that's like two Ben Gordon's of cap room available for them to fill the holes in their roster.

Edit: JDR beat me to it. Good hustle.

[Elden Payton]

I look forward to all of you rooting against the Pistons next year. I think it's time to let go of the idea that we will be drafting in the top 10 of this draft.

A top-1 protected pick of a non-playoff team with as many issues as the Pistons is incredibly valuable no matter how you slice it.

I think if you're disappointed it's funny

Who says that they're disappointed?, the trade was a rort either way.

People are just hypothesising whether the pick will be any good next year, you know, since we were basically in the same boat last year with the Portland pick which looked like a lock for late lotto.

[Liver_Pooty]

I remember when Smith played for the Hawks about 4 years ago or so and he would KILL us. If they would put him at the 4 him and a still developing Drummond would be a very nice athletic defensive front court. I don't trust them to suck again next year. I want to trade the pick to move up in the draft or in some kind of package on draft night if we don't get it.

[JDR720]

Plenty of talent on the Kings for years.

The Kings and the Pistons do not belong in the same sentence.

Detroit has always been revered for being the little engine that could, I'd never put it past them.

Calling them garbage is an absolute joke imo.

I think the Kings are a perfect model of a dominant young center stuck with talented teammates who have no clue how to play within a system.

Cousins is also a nut case and they have Rudy Gay who Toronto traded in an attempt to tank and they're suddenly the 4 seed

[MasterIchiro]

I look forward to all of you rooting against the Pistons next year. I think it's time to let go of the idea that we will be drafting in the top 10 of this draft.

A top-1 protected pick of a non-playoff team with as many issues as the Pistons is incredibly valuable no matter how you slice it.

I think if you're disappointed it's funny

Who says that they're disappointed?, the trade was a rort either way.

People are just hypothesising whether the pick will be any good next year, you know, since we were basically in the same boat last year with the Portland pick which looked like a lock for late lotto.

The Blazers and Pistons belong in the same sentence? OK.

But not the Kings and Pistons with Cousins and Drummond both surrounded by all this talent that never seems to translate into wins.

[Diop]

put Josh at PF he becomes tons better because he isn't shooting as many threes, Jennings is still gonna shoot bad but with Drummond eating rebounds and Smith helping out that shouldn't matter much and draft a SG or SF that can shoot and spend their large amount of cap space wisely

PG-Jennings
SG-KCP or pick or FA
SF-pick of FA
PF-Smith
C-Drummond

they will get out of Charlie V's and Stucky's contracts (8.5 mill a piece) let Billups go (2.5million), there is literally no way they get worse with that cap space, the #8 or better pick, Smith playing his natural position and a new coach and GM and they should get a decent haul for Monroe if they sign and trade him, and if they dont thats just more cap space

Put Stephenson alongside Jennings for toughness and an extra ball handler with a shooting small forward and that team is definitely better.

[MasterIchiro]

The Kings and the Pistons do not belong in the same sentence.

Detroit has always been revered for being the little engine that could, I'd never put it past them.

Calling them garbage is an absolute joke imo.

I think the Kings are a perfect model of a dominant young center stuck with talented teammates who have no clue how to play within a system.

Cousins is also a nut case and they have Rudy Gay who Toronto traded in an attempt to tank and they're suddenly the 4 seed

How is Rudy Gay different from Josh Smith? Are the Pistons going to somehow trade Smith? I'd like to see that one.