2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[deep6er]

If I'm being honest, I really don't know how badly I want Embiid anymore. I feel like when you tank as hard as the Sixers did, you need to come away with a big splash and more of a "sure thing" as far as franchise player is concerned. With Embiid, there is now an injury to be worried about, as well as the whole "potential vs. production" argument. Maybe I'm just severely scared of a big man with an injury, and I just need someone to talk me off the ledge.

But as far as I'm thinking, I'd like to see Wiggins or Parker out of the draft. Anything else would be disappointing. However, I wouldn't hate Randle, Embiid, Exum. I just wouldn't be as pleased.

I think most of us would prefer Wiggins or Parker over anyone else, but the lottery is just that. If we end up picking third and Embiid is there (which means Parker and Wiggins are not) then he has to be the pick. The athleticism and the speed at which he has picked up the game and is consistently improving show this kid to be something special. The back injury should make you nervous though. That doesn't mean it will be a problem, but it could be. It won't be like picking Oden over Durant if we pick him up at 3 though. The only other franchise level talent left is Exum and there are just as many risks to picking him.

THe problem is that we can't accurately predict the future. EVery pick is a gamble, but the upside on Embiid is so huge that you can't feel bad taking him at 3 or 4. I someone takes him 1 or 2, however, they might live to regret that.

[42uptop]

Completely disagree that Embiid at 1 or 2 is more of a risk than Parker or Wiggins. Embiid was the most dominant player in college basketball this year after he became a full-time starter. Unless one of you is a doctor and can tell me that his back injury is going to cripple him (even though there is no history of this injury having that sort of effect), he's still worthy of the number 1 pick

[Hardcore6erFan]

agree.

I really don't like picks 9-14. I think i said that somewhere else. That said, in Hinkie I trust!

Right now, I'm hoping either..

1.) Someone slips because people starts selecting team needs over BPA.
2.) Hinkie will pull a "MCW" move where he'd select a guy where most GM can't look past his flaws.

Because right now, like you said, picks 9-14 sucks. And that's also the reason why I don't want to talk or even do a research about Vonleh because comparing Vonleh to a guy like Cauley-Stein is pretty depressing.

For now, realistic BPA options at the Pels' pick for me are..

Tier 1: Kyle Anderson and Tyler Ennis (most promising with low downside)
Tier 2: Doug McDermott (enigma for me. High risk high reward for me.)
Tier 3: Jusuf Nurkic (safe but low ceiling)
Tier 4: Cauley Stein, Cappela and Gary Harris (potential back-ups)

In the end I think Hinkie will go with Kyle Anderson. He really feels like the "MCW" of this year's draft where people will focus on him being unathletic and not being a good shooter. Then you go a little bit back, and remember how Hinkie and co. made that pick for Royce White? Royce and Kyle plays almost the same way.

I agree that Kyle Anderson is Hinkie's guy at #11, but what if the Sixers get Wiggins or Parker with their pick? Anderson, Parker, and Wiggins are all small forwards.

[sixers23]

Why is Anderson's hinkies guy? Just bc he's your guy doesn't mean he's his

[Hardcore6erFan]

Why is Anderson's hinkies guy? Just bc he's your guy doesn't mean he's his

Tall for his position, big wingspan, has a game that should translate well to the NBA.

[sixers23]

Why is Anderson's hinkies guy? Just bc he's your guy doesn't mean he's his

Tall for his position, big wingspan, has a game that should translate well to the NBA.

Well obviously your opinion but most question how he translate to nba

Either way I think u gotta know who we pick with our pick to really get a good idea of potential pelicans picks

[FlightBrothers]

Just need the lottery to work it's magic and the Sixers will be leaving the draft with Wiggins or Embiid.

That's a successful season, gents.

Couldnt agree more come out with one of these 2 and its a wrap...

I have Wiggins and Embiid a significant gap ahead of Randle, Vonleh, Exum and Parker...

[DaQuestion76]

HEY REALGM as we get closer to the draft I am having Anxiety issues with the top 3. I need help!

Jabari Parker=is he Michael Beasley if not why not? Beasley was a beast his first year in college. A tweeter not explosive, not a good defender

Wiggins= I know he is young but the lack of motor doesn't transfer to the NBA (Speights,Lavoy, Moultrie etc)

Embiid = Injured Damaged Goods? ....Ruland, Webber,Brand, Bynum and Noel. Hopefully Nerlens is off this list next year.

I need help anyone?

[SixerFever215]

I guess people don't realize Kyle Anderson is a PG.

[SJSF]

Randle is the only that has shown up in the tournament. Parker and Wiggins was MIA.

[Hardcore6erFan]

I guess people don't realize Kyle Anderson is a PG.

I doubt he plays PG in the NBA. He will play small forward but will handle the ball a lot like Iggy.

[Wilfried]

I think Milwaukee still takes Embiid #1.

Can be, they have the greek freak at their future SF position.

Their frontcourt is a mess, with Illyasova and Sanders.

[Kobblehead]

I guess people don't realize Kyle Anderson is a PG.

You just lack knowledge on the player. Kyle Anderson has point guard traits, but he doesn't move well enough to play at the 1 at the next level. He has slow footspeed, slow lateral quickness, and just poor overall athleticism. He would get blown by on every single possession trying to guard PG's at the next level. He's a point forward.

[Wilfried]

agree.

For now, realistic BPA options at the Pels' pick for me are..

Tier 1: Kyle Anderson and Tyler Ennis (most promising with low downside)
Tier 2: Doug McDermott (enigma for me. High risk high reward for me.)
Tier 3: Jusuf Nurkic (safe but low ceiling)
Tier 4: Cauley Stein, Cappela and Gary Harris (potential back-ups)

In the end I think Hinkie will go with Kyle Anderson. He really feels like the "MCW" of this year's draft where people will focus on him being unathletic and not being a good shooter. Then you go a little bit back, and remember how Hinkie and co. made that pick for Royce White? Royce and Kyle plays almost the same way.

TJ Warren and LaVine should be available too. They are tier 1 for me.

[sixers23]

I guess people don't realize Kyle Anderson is a PG.

You just lack knowledge on the player. Kyle Anderson has point guard traits, but he doesn't move well enough to play at the 1 at the next level. He has slow footspeed, slow lateral quickness, and just poor overall athleticism. He would get blown by on every single possession trying to guard PG's at the next level. He's a point forward.

i dont think he has to play point guard but he wouldnt be able to guard 2s or 3s either imo so you better surround him with great defenders just like mcdermott

for instance if we take parker then anderson is off the board

[PhilasFinest]

HEY REALGM as well get closer to the draft I am having Anxiety issues with the top 3. I need help!

Jabari Parker=is he Michael Beasley if not why not? Beasley was a beast his first year I college. A tweeter not explosive

Wiggins= I know he is young but the lack of motor doesn't transfer to the NBA (Speights,Lavoy, Moultrie etc)

Embiid = Injured Damaged Goods? ....Ruland, Webber,Brand, Bynum and Noel. Hopefully Nerlens is off this list next year.

I need help anyone?

Beasley flopped because hes a headcase and lacked the IQ and work ethic that makes the greats, great. He can,has and still possesses the ability to score at a high level, was just never able to put it altogether. Parker seems like a smart,hard working kid....the opposite of Beasley.

Wiggins' upside just can't be ignored. Despite not always being the alpha dog at Kansas...he still had a impressive freshman campaign and flashed star potential at times as a 2 way force. At worst he's a Trevor Ariza like wing, best case he's a Paul George / TMac like wing.

Embiid does worry me too, mainly because I've had back issues myself and they are nuisance injuries.But he's not coming off of any chronic issues or major surgery. His upside also can't be ignored.


Honestly, I think no matter what were gonna get a very good player in the draft. The top 5 prospects or so all seem to have quite a bit of upside IMO.

[PhilasFinest]

I guess people don't realize Kyle Anderson is a PG.

You just lack knowledge on the player. Kyle Anderson has point guard traits, but he doesn't move well enough to play at the 1 at the next level. He has slow footspeed, slow lateral quickness, and just poor overall athleticism. He would get blown by on every single possession trying to guard PG's at the next level. He's a point forward.

This!

[Embiid P]

Glad to see that Embiid is declaring. Even if we don't get him, he automatically makes overall talent pool better which increases the likelihood of us landing a good player with the Pels pick.

[PhilasFinest]

Chandler Parsons was a really versatile player in college and exploded in the nba....I think he is/was a much better 3pt shooter than Anderson, and is also a better' quicker athlete.

Royce white was in the same boat and Houston used a lotto pick on him, while more a 4 than a wing,He was really versatile, but lacked shooting touch.


Anderson's really tough to project but def fits the versatile player mold . Maybe with a elite training program he can get in good shape and add a little more quickness to his feet, and he would greatly benefit from developing his 3pt shot and ability to play offball. Physically he should be able to be at least an adequate defender with his length.

I'm skeptical, but u can certainly see why someone would be intrigued by him....he has a ton of skills, and if he could do some of the things mentioned above....could turn into a hell of a player.

[agiaco]

I think the Bucks could easily take any of the big 3 names. They need a star.