TyCobb wrote:You knew what you were getting when you offered Kobe the extension.
Pleasing Kobe, season ticket sales and TWN! Nothing more than that for the next two years!
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TyCobb wrote:You knew what you were getting when you offered Kobe the extension.
aaron_gray wrote:Easy, R Kelly averages 20/8 and pisses on everybody, Sacre 15/5/2, Baze 20/6 assists/2 steals, Wiggins 18 and Kobe 20/7. Championship here we come.
In this era of supersize contracts and supersize egos, rare is it the case that a player refuses to accept more money than he thinks he's worth.
As if Peyton Manning hasn't already carved out his place as one of the classiest pros around, a new story regarding his salary negotiations should reinforce his stellar reputation.
Manning's agent, Tom Condon, relayed to Andrew Brandt of MMQB a fascinating and revealing tale about Manning's free agency two years ago.
Manning, you'll remember, had missed the 2011 season after undergoing career-threatening neck surgery. Even he wasn't sure how his body would respond on the gridiron. Still, the four-time NFL MVP had plenty of suitors, and after selecting Denver he was in for a mega-deal. Condon thought Manning could command $25 million a year, making him one of the highest paid athletes in the world. Manning, however, had other plans.
He asked Condon how much Tom Brady made, and when Condon told him the Patriots' signal-caller banked $18 million a year, Manning said that would suffice.
“I don’t want to make a penny more than that," Manning said.
The Broncos offered $19.4 million, and when Condon told Manning the quarterback wasn't too happy.
“I told you I didn’t want to make more than Brady!” Manning chirped.
Condon apologized and asked to speak with Manning's wife, who ultimately coaxed him into accepting the deal.
Even though it was a reduction in salary from his deal with the Colts, in which Manning made $26.4 million in his first year, Manning didn't want to burden the Broncos with a huge deal. He wasn't sure how his neck would fare, so he was completely open with the team.
“They’ve got to be protected,” Manning told The Denver Post in March 2012. “That's why the whole medical -- I was as open book as I could be. I told them exactly how I feel, what I was working on. They have to know everything to make their decision."
As it turns out, the deal has worked out pretty well for both sides. Manning has racked up 26 wins in his first two seasons with the Broncos, taking Denver to the Super Bowl in 2014. He was named NFL MVP in 2013 season after setting the single-season record for most touchdown passes with 55. (Brady had set the mark of 50 in 2007.)
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 16, 2012,
GeorgeDillion wrote:The article you posted is two years after the fact that the team lost the Superbowl in embarrassing fashion with the Broncos being cap strapped and Manning's contract being a huge reason that they can't improve. But yet he's being noble?
So even if that is the case, I'm to believe Manning's "Agent" that he's such a swell guy that he wanted to make just a little bit less than the best QB in the league, while he himself was coming off major career threatening injury?
What a great guy he took a whole $1.4 Million less than what the Broncos offered per season, everyone should follow this example.
Great man indeed.
GeorgeDillion wrote: I can make a post about Kobe's accolades but I won't, I can also make a blatant insult but it serves no purpose. Sure Manning broke records post injury but what does it have to do with him accepting an absorbent amount of money before proving that he was fine?
The article you posted is two years after the fact that the team lost the Superbowl in embarrassing fashion
GeorgeDillion wrote: So by this logic in the 2015-16 season if Kobe averages 30/7/7 he was justified in taking the contract that people complained about two years earlier?
GeorgeDillion wrote:So Manning is right for saying that he would take less money but, eventually took more money than he was willing to take anyway? If he was so adamant about it why didn't he just request for his agent to tell the Broncos he wanted to take less, instead of getting his wife involved? I'm sorry but that's nonsense if he wanted to take less he would have took less but he didn't, instead he took a 5 year $96 Million dollars paying him
2012: $18 million, fully guaranteed.
2013: $20 million, everything guaranteed unless there is a neck issue.
2014: $20 million, everything guaranteed except for neck.
2015: $19 million, not guaranteed.
2016: $19 million, not guaranteed.
Year Base S. Bonus Misc. Cap Hit Dead
GeorgeDillion wrote:So is Kobe a martyr as well for taking $9 Million less than his max next season and leaving nearly $20 Million in cap space for the team to sign a max free agent?
GeorgeDillion wrote:You do know Manning restructured his deal last May correct? Receiving an advance of $10 Million reducing his cap number for 2 years and increasing it his final 2. While still collecting the money he was owed because he took the advance as a bonus?
The original deal is what I posted, the deal you posted is the restructure where he didn't lose anything monetarily, in the NBA you can't do contracts like that.
You also fail to realize that Kobe could have made, $32.5 Million next season but is instead making $23.5 Million his deal could have been in $64-66 Million range but its not.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_20213659/p ... 96-million
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... 12692.html
So again how is Peyton any different if he still got his money?
TonyMontana wrote:Lakers gave him a good bye and hush money gift.
Phil XI wrote:TonyMontana wrote:Lakers gave him a good bye and hush money gift.
Hush money? The Lakers probably like Kobe keeping this team about him and letting the future FA's know that Lakers sill want to win.
Everyone is freaking out because they ( we) don't know what the plan is. I don't see this as anything more than scripted media in the midst of the worst season in history.