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Bradley Beal - Part II

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#661 » by hands11 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:18 pm

dlts20 wrote:This is what Witt said:
“Whether it’s the first week of the season or the last, it’s ups and downs with guys and their offensive game,” Wittman said. “You see that with everybody. It’s a period he’s going through. He’s got to stay confident. Those are good shots and those are shots that we want him to take and that’s all I want him to do. But obviously, the defense is keyed up a bit differently than it was last year with him becoming a better player. But a better player, the harder it becomes.”



and this is what Beal said:
“You have to keep shooting the ball, no matter how many you miss, you make shots, you’ve just got to keep shooting, keep shooting, keep shooting,” Beal said. “That’s what these guys tell me to do. ‘Stay in a rhythm, whenever you have a shot take it,’ because it’s probably the best shot for our team. That’s what I’m known for doing. So that’s what I have to continue to do.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... -shooting/


This is why who is HC matters. Randy is telling him this. He is repeating it. And it even sound like his teammates are jumping in. At least it sounds that way ?

Who are "These guys" Randy and the assistants ? Players ?

Its really hard to blame Beal if Randy and the assistants are telling him to do it. Only thing left would be for some players to get a hold of him and provide him the good data that says, maybe you shouldn't listen to them so much. Work on that in the offseason. We have to get ready for the playoffs right now. Take your open 3 balls and drive or drive and dish. Take on mid range a game just to shut them up if you need to.

http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... rID=203078
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#662 » by hands11 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:24 pm

dlts20 wrote:dczards, that maybe true about buttons but Beal doesnt seem like the type that you cant say that to. He might get that way though if you dont and then all of asudden you do. Witt also doesnt seem like the type to hold back and he's publicly got on other guys before, especially the guys who arent here now but he never questions Beal.

Honestly, you have to consider if what he's saying is 100% true. I mean maybe he does actually think Beal is playing the right way and taking good shots. Afterall, his system is designed for alot of jumpers and or long 2s which is flat out idiotic. I just hope we get a real coach next year. You can ask Witt if he wants to swallow his pride and just coach the D but I doubt he would


I do get the sense that Beal is his favorite player. Even above Wall.

Not sure if that is true or not.

And I agree. Exactly. He could see Beal as the key to his system working. He must be salivating thinking if he just takes enough of them, he is going to finally get it dialed in and when he does.

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My offense is going to look awesome. I could see why he would have Beal as his favorite given his offense.

Some young players get endless chances to grow. Some don't. Beal clearly is. And I'm fine with that to an extent. But its clear Randy won't real him in. He is actually encouraging this stuff.

So frustrating. Man. Just when I want to get my rose colored glasses out I had to find this stuff to remind me Randy is the coach. Its up to the Beal to figure out the right thing to do against what he says. And sadly, what Beal is doing vs what he could be doing is key to playoff success.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#663 » by FAH1223 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:29 pm

An open shot is a good shot but Beal has no idea what a great shot is because of the HC.

Stupid Beal/Gortat pick and rolls.

Stupid one dribble into the arc shots.

Stupid play by a player who should be smarter than this. I don't care about his age.
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Post#664 » by hands11 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:13 pm

FAH1223 wrote:An open shot is a good shot but Beal has no idea what a great shot is because of the HC.

Stupid Beal/Gortat pick and rolls.

Stupid one dribble into the arc shots.

Stupid play by a player who should be smarter than this. I don't care about his age.


Well, hopefully he stops by the board and reads his thread then he can get some input from outside his bubble.

As for his PnR with Gortat, I posted something about that recently when we were talking about PnR in general. IIRC, PnR with Beal was doing ok. But I would rather see him used like Webster was last year. Just spot him up. He actually adds something the team was really missing last year, a 3 ball from the top of the key but this year they have more of that. Wall is hitting form there as well. Wall top right is doing well.

Wall top right or drive. PnR Gortat and fast breaks.
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... rID=202322

Beal anywhere up top. left center or right for the 3 ball or drive right. Anything but left.
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... rID=203078

Webster right corner
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... rID=101110

TA left top to left corner
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=2772

Gortat pick and roll or pick and pop right right or left post.
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... rID=101162
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#665 » by nate33 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:38 am

Beal about to post his 16th consecutive game with a FG% under 50%
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Post#666 » by FAH1223 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:02 am

Love Miller's post game. Hope Wall learns it
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Post#667 » by crackhed » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:29 am

if all the professionals around him - and by that i mean coaches, teammates veterans and peers alike, and other people who are paid to know about basketball - are advising him to keep shooting, how is it that we presume to know better?

its easy to criticize bcuz the shots aren't falling consistently, but Bradley has expanded his floor game quite a bit. he's doing something new.. he'll figure it out and the shots will fall in time.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#668 » by WallToWall » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:44 am

Beal needs to lock himself in the gym and shoot 1000 jumpers like Gilbert Arenas. Maybe the misses will get out of his system. He's too good for this. If the D has caught up to his shots and moves, he should try to learn a new shot. Easier said than done, I know.
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Post#669 » by dlts20 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:15 am

nate33 wrote:Beal about to post his 16th consecutive game with a FG% under 50%

talking about this to me now is like the Jim Mora playoffs thing. Everyone keeps talking about the 50% streak but whats worst is that in 8 of his last 11 he's been 38.9% or lower. He's not even getting close to 50% and has been shooting like Brick Jennings. The crazy thing is that I dont get the sense that his confidence has waned any. He'll keep shooting them like he's actually got 16 straight games of over 50%..........lol
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Post#670 » by Kanyewest » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:23 am

Beal actually attacked and got to the rim more tonight- he missed quite a few layups.
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Post#671 » by Sluggerface » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:51 am

Kanyewest wrote:Beal actually attacked and got to the rim more tonight- he missed quite a few layups.


They'll start to fall. I think he's actually improved his shot selection in certain areas. I think he's starting to have more faith in his handle. Despite glaringly obvious hiccups, he has actually improved with his decision making.
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Post#672 » by Illmatic21 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:18 am

crackhed wrote:if all the professionals around him - and by that i mean coaches, teammates veterans and peers alike, and other people who are paid to know about basketball - are advising him to keep shooting, how is it that we presume to know better?

its easy to criticize bcuz the shots aren't falling consistently, but Bradley has expanded his floor game quite a bit. he's doing something new.. he'll figure it out and the shots will fall in time.

I think most of us don't mind him slumping if he's being patient and taking good shots.

But I don't care if you're Steph Curry, repeatedly taking long twos with your foot just inside the 3pt line is stupid.
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Post#673 » by dckingsfan » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:29 pm

Sluggerface wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:Beal actually attacked and got to the rim more tonight- he missed quite a few layups.


They'll start to fall. I think he's actually improved his shot selection in certain areas. I think he's starting to have more faith in his handle. Despite glaringly obvious hiccups, he has actually improved with his decision making.


I agree with some parts of that statement. I think his handles and decision making have improved enough to get in the paint from time-to-time. The part that hasn't improved is stepping back and taking a 3 vs long 2 - I think (I have no statistical evidence so just conjecture) that has become worse.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#674 » by Youheardme90 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:52 pm

Honestly though, if the long 2 is open or in rhythm, is it still considered a bad shot?
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Post#675 » by dlts20 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:03 pm

Youheardme90 wrote:Honestly though, if the long 2 is open or in rhythm, is it still considered a bad shot?

Id still rather have a 3 or get closer but I dont think no one will complain much. The problem is they arent open or in rhythm
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#676 » by tontoz » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:09 pm

Youheardme90 wrote:Honestly though, if the long 2 is open or in rhythm, is it still considered a bad shot?



Yes, unless it is late in the shot clock.
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Post#677 » by dlts20 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:46 pm

tontoz wrote:
Youheardme90 wrote:Honestly though, if the long 2 is open or in rhythm, is it still considered a bad shot?



Yes, unless it is late in the shot clock.

the #1 shot a defense tries to get you to take is a long 2. Even if everthing is perfect its still a low percentage shot and you dont even get the reward of having an extra point for it like a 3. Thats even if everything is perfect which most of our arent. They are contested, and on the move which is even worse
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Post#678 » by Illmatic21 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:24 pm

Very interesting video I came across. Listen to what Billy Donovan says around 1:20 and Beal's comments afterwards:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doI-dIr6qjs[/youtube]
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Post#679 » by dlts20 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:42 pm

Illmatic21 wrote:Very interesting video I came across. Listen to what Billy Donovan says around 1:20 and Beal's comments afterwards:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doI-dIr6qjs[/youtube]

Ive thought about some of that recently and hoped he would flip the switch but it doesnt really hold weight now for several reasons.

1 is I used that logic last year. He didnt live up to the hype in college and but then found his rhythm in the 2nd half of the season (or a lil later) and was great after that. Last year he was horrible the first 2 months of the season. Even worst then he is now but just like college, he flipped the switch when the new year came and was great the rest of the season. Shooting a very high percentage and winning b2b rookie of the month awards I believe.

That shouldve been the end right there. I guess people took notice of the 2nd half last year and his great preseaon (where he was easily one of the top 5 players in the NBA) and they scouted him greatly. Still, the slump shouldnt last that long. Its pretty much been all year and instead of getting better, he's actually gotten worse over the season.

Still, I agree that he's only 20 and will get alot better. I think under a new coach he will be alot better. Just him playing up to the level of the 2nd half of last year would give us like 5 more wins right now. He's the type of guy that instead of a small leap, he could take a big leap in one year and that would make us a ton better. My thought process is that he's not playing to even the average of his ability right now. Like he has a level and next year a normal progression is a step up but I actually think he's playing under his naturally level so next year I could see him take not 1 but 2 or 3 steps up in one year
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#680 » by Hidden Eye » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:06 pm

WallToWall wrote:Beal needs to lock himself in the gym and shoot 1000 jumpers like Gilbert Arenas. Maybe the misses will get out of his system. He's too good for this. If the D has caught up to his shots and moves, he should try to learn a new shot. Easier said than done, I know.


That will never happen Nobody on the Wizards team for the next 200 years will have the work ethic Arenas had.

Arenas put in work I doubt anybody would do the same can't see it happening.

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