2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

ZarcMumoff · Post #281 » by **ZarcMumoff** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:57 pm

I think Anderson could be a PF, especially if he's placed next to a dominant defensive center. He's got the size & he rebounds pretty damn well. I feel like you can hide his defensive deficiencies better at PF than SF (where he'd be on the perimeter a lot more), but he's going to struggle on defense no matter what. As long as he's shooting well, he'd be a good fit next to Noel IMO.

Mik317 · Post #282 » by **Mik317** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:57 pm

Hood's defense isn't that good IIRC.

Negrodamus · Post #283 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:15 pm

deep6er wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Additionally, Aaron Harrison hit 4 3s in the final 5 minutes of last night's game. Let's not forget that his three against UL sealed the game. I think clutch enters the conversation in terms of draft stock.

Let's not forget how well he shot for the first 35 minutes of that game. Being clutch is fine, being consistent is better.

That goes for James Young too. He was a non factor in the KSU and UL games. I wasn't speaking to Aaron's draft stock; I was comparing Young and Harrison's stock. I don't want either of them on the Sixers.

Agnostifarian · Post #284 » by **Agnostifarian** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:55 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:UF going on one of their trademark droughts in the mid second half. Jordan Adams and Kyle Anderson get a nice rest and still only down 3.

I know your a big Anderson guy....his impact on the game is undeniable, but I do question his athletic ability in the nba, he's listed at 233 lbs.....think if he could lose some weight he could improve his quickness a bit?

Can either of you envision Anderson as a PF at the next level if he can truly play at 230+ lbs?

PG MCW
SG WIGGINS
SF THAD
PF ANDERSON
C NOEL

plenty of defense to help Anderson... This isn't my favorite combo but it would be very good for a motion offense. Thoughts?

sixers23 · Post #285 » by **sixers23** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:05 pm

SparksFly87 wrote:Rodney Hood at 2/3 for the 76ers with the Pelicans pick. 6'8 can shoot, handle , play defense and more of a polish prospect. I want him here!

He doesn't play defense or handle well dunno what games u watched

sixers23 · Post #286 » by **sixers23** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:06 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
sixers23 wrote:ew no way you take either harrison ahead of young

I'm not basing this opinion off what draft websites tell me. I've watched every minute of every game this year. Young is painfully overrated. He is known as a "3 and D" guy, but he's terribly streaky at shooting and his D is often nonexistent. He also misses FTs.

I am more confident in Hawkins' defense than James Young, and I'm not sure it's even close.

Neither guy was consistent I'll take the one who has more potential which is definitely young and no attitude concerns

Negrodamus · Post #287 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:08 pm

sixers23 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
sixers23 wrote:ew no way you take either harrison ahead of young

I'm not basing this opinion off what draft websites tell me. I've watched every minute of every game this year. Young is painfully overrated. He is known as a "3 and D" guy, but he's terribly streaky at shooting and his D is often nonexistent. He also misses FTs.

I am more confident in Hawkins' defense than James Young, and I'm not sure it's even close.

Neither guy was consistent I'll take the one who has more potential which is definitely young and no attitude concerns

Aaron doesn't have attitude concerns.

I guess Young has "more potential" because he's capable of flashy dunks? They both have equal stats, if not Harrison is better in most categories. Harrison has also shown versatility by playing PG for stretches of games.

Additionally, Harrison has been consistent when it matters. Young has disappeared in many games throughout the year, including during tourney time. There's a reason why Harrison has been the go to guy at the end of these games.

sixers23 · Post #288 » by **sixers23** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:27 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
sixers23 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
I'm not basing this opinion off what draft websites tell me. I've watched every minute of every game this year. Young is painfully overrated. He is known as a "3 and D" guy, but he's terribly streaky at shooting and his D is often nonexistent. He also misses FTs.

I am more confident in Hawkins' defense than James Young, and I'm not sure it's even close.

Neither guy was consistent I'll take the one who has more potential which is definitely young and no attitude concerns

Aaron doesn't have attitude concerns.

I guess Young has "more potential" because he's capable of flashy dunks? They both have equal stats, if not Harrison is better in most categories. Harrison has also shown versatility by playing PG for stretches of games.

Additionally, Harrison has been consistent when it matters. Young has disappeared in many games throughout the year, including during tourney time. There's a reason why Harrison has been the go to guy at the end of these games.

That's your opinion. Personally I dont want either Harrison twin

Negrodamus · Post #289 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:50 pm

sixers23 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
sixers23 wrote:Neither guy was consistent I'll take the one who has more potential which is definitely young and no attitude concerns

Aaron doesn't have attitude concerns.

I guess Young has "more potential" because he's capable of flashy dunks? They both have equal stats, if not Harrison is better in most categories. Harrison has also shown versatility by playing PG for stretches of games.

Additionally, Harrison has been consistent when it matters. Young has disappeared in many games throughout the year, including during tourney time. There's a reason why Harrison has been the go to guy at the end of these games.

That's your opinion. Personally I doubt want either Harrison twin

I know, and you're entitled to your opinion too. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see why everyone is enamored with James Young, to the point where he's that much better than Aaron. In my opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if most UK fans feel this way, Aaron is more important than Young and is basically overall a better player. It's certainly arguable, but I'm not as confident when Young has the ball over Aaron.

Post #290 » by **sixers hoops** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:54 pm

sixers23 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
sixers23 wrote:Neither guy was consistent I'll take the one who has more potential which is definitely young and no attitude concerns

Aaron doesn't have attitude concerns.

I guess Young has "more potential" because he's capable of flashy dunks? They both have equal stats, if not Harrison is better in most categories. Harrison has also shown versatility by playing PG for stretches of games.

Additionally, Harrison has been consistent when it matters. Young has disappeared in many games throughout the year, including during tourney time. There's a reason why Harrison has been the go to guy at the end of these games.

That's your opinion. Personally I doubt want either Harrison twin

Are we talking at 11 or 32. No interest at 11 but at 32 that is a lot of upside.

Mock drafts last week had him late first I believe. He will prob land mid-first.

sixers23 · Post #291 » by **sixers23** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:56 pm

sixers hoops wrote:
sixers23 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Aaron doesn't have attitude concerns.

I guess Young has "more potential" because he's capable of flashy dunks? They both have equal stats, if not Harrison is better in most categories. Harrison has also shown versatility by playing PG for stretches of games.

Additionally, Harrison has been consistent when it matters. Young has disappeared in many games throughout the year, including during tourney time. There's a reason why Harrison has been the go to guy at the end of these games.

That's your opinion. Personally I doubt want either Harrison twin

Are we talking at 11 or 32. No interest at 11 but at 32 that is a lot of upside.

Mock drafts last week had him late first I believe. He will prob land mid-first.

sure id would take the chance on him in the 2nd round although im sure someone late first will probably take him

deep6er · Post #292 » by **deep6er** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:04 am

Agnostifarian wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:UF going on one of their trademark droughts in the mid second half. Jordan Adams and Kyle Anderson get a nice rest and still only down 3.

I know your a big Anderson guy....his impact on the game is undeniable, but I do question his athletic ability in the nba, he's listed at 233 lbs.....think if he could lose some weight he could improve his quickness a bit?

Can either of you envision Anderson as a PF at the next level if he can truly play at 230+ lbs?

PG MCW
SG WIGGINS
SF THAD
PF ANDERSON
C NOEL

plenty of defense to help Anderson... This isn't my favorite combo but it would be very good for a motion offense. Thoughts?

Never ever ever will you ever see Kyle Anderson and Thad Young play in the same line-up. Not sure where everyone is getting the idea that Kyle Anderson can bang with NBA PFs. He didn't body people up in college. Just because ANderson won't be able to play any other position in the NBA, doesn't mean that he'll be able to play power forward. Anderson is an interesting college player but who can he possibly guard in the NBA? On top of that he's not offensively gifted enough to put up with his defensive failings and complete lack of athleticism. No way we are drafting Anderson unless he falls to the second round.

Sixersftw · Post #293 » by **Sixersftw** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:23 am

Negrodamus wrote:[
I know, and you're entitled to your opinion too. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see why everyone is enamored with James Young, to the point where he's that much better than Aaron. In my opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if most UK fans feel this way, Aaron is more important than Young and is basically overall a better player. It's certainly arguable, but I'm not as confident when Young has the ball over Aaron.

UK Fan here. I think they are about equal players both have some talent but disappear randomly. However, I do agree that Aaron, the twins in general, are much more important to the team. When they play well we play well. Luckily, Aaron has been on a roll at the perfect time.

Number 9 is just 2 games away...

sixers23 · Post #294 » by **sixers23** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:35 am

Sixersftw wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:[
I know, and you're entitled to your opinion too. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see why everyone is enamored with James Young, to the point where he's that much better than Aaron. In my opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if most UK fans feel this way, Aaron is more important than Young and is basically overall a better player. It's certainly arguable, but I'm not as confident when Young has the ball over Aaron.

UK Fan here. I think they are about equal players both have some talent but disappear randomly. However, I do agree that Aaron, the twins in general, are much more important to the team. When they play well we play well. Luckily, Aaron has been on a roll at the perfect time.

Number 9 is just 2 games away...

isnt it annoying/not as satisfying having to watch a whole new team every season?

Negrodamus · Post #295 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:48 am

Sixersftw wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:[
I know, and you're entitled to your opinion too. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see why everyone is enamored with James Young, to the point where he's that much better than Aaron. In my opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if most UK fans feel this way, Aaron is more important than Young and is basically overall a better player. It's certainly arguable, but I'm not as confident when Young has the ball over Aaron.

UK Fan here. I think they are about equal players both have some talent but disappear randomly. However, I do agree that Aaron, the twins in general, are much more important to the team. When they play well we play well. Luckily, Aaron has been on a roll at the perfect time.

Number 9 is just 2 games away...

I think when Young gets cold, it's far more detrimental to the team because he loves to shoot 10+ times a game. When the scoring distribution is pretty even across the starting lineup, 10+ is a lot of shots to take, especially when you're missing 6 to 7 of them

MRxBLACK · Post #296 » by **MRxBLACK** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:53 am

LloydFree wrote:2014 Draft board (as of 3/28/14
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No KJ McDaniels, Lloyd?

Negrodamus · Post #297 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:54 am

sixers23 wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:[
I know, and you're entitled to your opinion too. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see why everyone is enamored with James Young, to the point where he's that much better than Aaron. In my opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if most UK fans feel this way, Aaron is more important than Young and is basically overall a better player. It's certainly arguable, but I'm not as confident when Young has the ball over Aaron.

UK Fan here. I think they are about equal players both have some talent but disappear randomly. However, I do agree that Aaron, the twins in general, are much more important to the team. When they play well we play well. Luckily, Aaron has been on a roll at the perfect time.

Number 9 is just 2 games away...

isnt it annoying/not as satisfying having to watch a whole new team every season?

As a UK fan living in Lexington, the simple answer is... no.

The long answer is that I was cheering on S. Limestone last night with thousands of other UK fans losing our minds. 25,000 fill up Rupp Arena for almost every game. Basketball is a way of life in this state. Who we put on the court isn't very important as long as they represent the program well and live up to the standard UK fans have come to expect. I was in undergrad when Boogie Cousins and Wall were here and I'd run into them every so often while going to class. They were treated like gods and they still show their loyalty to the UK program today.

sixers23 · Post #298 » by **sixers23** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:06 am

Negrodamus wrote:
sixers23 wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:

UK Fan here. I think they are about equal players both have some talent but disappear randomly. However, I do agree that Aaron, the twins in general, are much more important to the team. When they play well we play well. Luckily, Aaron has been on a roll at the perfect time.

Number 9 is just 2 games away...

isnt it annoying/not as satisfying having to watch a whole new team every season?

As a UK fan living in Lexington, the simple answer is... no.

The long answer is that I was cheering on S. Limestone last night with thousands of other UK fans losing our minds. 25,000 fill up Rupp Arena for almost every game. Basketball is a way of life in this state. Who we put on the court isn't very important as long as they represent the program well and live up to the standard UK fans have come to expect. I was in undergrad when Boogie Cousins and Wall were here and I'd run into them every so often while going to class. They were treated like gods and they still show their loyalty to the UK program today.

to each his own i guess

Kobblehead · Post #299 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:06 am

WCS and Randle are the only two Kentucky players that belong in the NBA next year.

Negrodamus · Post #300 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:13 am

Kobblehead wrote:WCS and Randle are the only two Kentucky players that belong in the NBA next year.

I wouldn't disagree with this. WCS is pretty tapped out in what he can do in college. He needs to go to the NBA, put on weight, and work on post moves/FT shooting for 8 hours a day. It's a shame that he's probably out for the year. He was just starting to come alive.