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Post#21 » by crazyeights » Wed Apr 2, 2014 5:02 pm

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LApwnd wrote:Sacre and Kelly dont matter, Antoni is a moron. He had no excuse either for not playing hill last year and he made up moronic excuse to disrespect Pau last year too.


Well, the Lakers Brass decided Sacre matters when they extended him for 3 seasons. What else are we playing for anyway? It's not like we're wasting a playoff push on undeserving players...this is the perfect time to get these guys minutes. It's a season of garbage time.

That being said, Sacre and Kelly are extremely valuable. Having been picked 60th and 48th their contracts are absolutely dirt cheap. If you don't see the value in that, then I'd say you're undervaluing cap considerations.

Kelly has had arguably one of the top rookie seasons from the last draft. Some say NBA rookie 2nd team is deserving. He's 22, can block shots, pass, and shoot (57.7 TS%). He's definitely got the intangibles (and tangibles) to be a nice role player on a good team.


watch when a real coach comes in and we'll see if any of these 2 will see the light of day off the bench or putting up #'s like kelly is now next season. Both are valuable in the sense they can come in an do something here and there but Antoni system is clearly inflating Kelly #'s and I dont see anything of importantance out of Sacre either, he is a 4th big on any decent lvl team he gets PT cause Antoni says he tries hard and plays D but yet so does Hill but because Kelly can make 3's he gets the remaining minutes.


A real coach would see Kelly's value. Hell, even Metta World Peace went out of his way to mention Ryan Kelly.

You think a guy like Popovich wouldn't want Kelly? Or Phil Jackson? The guy who got Luke Walton a 6 year contract? Get real.
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Re: Gasol and Caveman 

Post#22 » by Slava » Wed Apr 2, 2014 5:08 pm

Looks like D'Antoni's agent mediated a truce between Kaman and MDA

Warren LeGarie, the agent for embattled Los Angeles Lakers coach Mike D’Antoni, was doing all the talking.

He was doing the pointing, jabbing his index finger into Chris Kaman’s chest. LeGarie also stood up periodically to yell down at the Lakers center hunched in a courtside seat Tuesday night, ball in his lap, postponing his pregame court work to listen.

Head bobbing in emphatic declarations, LeGarie gestured numerous times toward the Lakers bench where D’Antoni is positioned during games. Kaman threw his hands up a few times but had little to say to LeGarie, who represents so many NBA coaches and executives that he qualifies as more of a power player in this league than any 7-footer.

Kaman looked like a student with his lecturing teacher, definitely hearing out a man who isn’t his agent but whom he considers a friend. (Kaman benefited from LeGarie’s influence in 2006, when LeGarie coach client Mike Dunleavy insisted on Kaman getting a five-year, $52 million extension—the first time Donald Sterling’s Los Angeles Clippers ever extended anyone before contract expiration—before Dunleavy would accept his new deal from the Clippers.)


“He’s not trying to hurt anybody,” Kaman said. “He’s not purposefully doing anything negatively. I think he’s just trying to do the best he can with what we’ve got. All the injuries...I’ve never seen injuries like that before in my life.”

And this: “For as much heat as he takes, I don't think that he has had a fair shot at it, either.”

And this: “We have to, as players, respect the position of the coach.”


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Re: Gasol and Caveman 

Post#23 » by LApwnd » Wed Apr 2, 2014 5:12 pm

crazyeights wrote:A real coach would see Kelly's value. Hell, even Metta World Peace went out of his way to mention Ryan Kelly.

You think a guy like Popovich wouldn't want Kelly? Or Phil Jackson? The guy who got Luke Walton a 6 year contract? Get real.


yea how did that Walton deal work out for us :roll: as for Kelly great if he has that value to Pop trade him for their 1st rd draft pick.
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Post#24 » by crazyeights » Wed Apr 2, 2014 8:24 pm

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crazyeights wrote:A real coach would see Kelly's value. Hell, even Metta World Peace went out of his way to mention Ryan Kelly.

You think a guy like Popovich wouldn't want Kelly? Or Phil Jackson? The guy who got Luke Walton a 6 year contract? Get real.


yea how did that Walton deal work out for us :roll: as for Kelly great if he has that value to Pop trade him for their 1st rd draft pick.


Nobody in today's league gets a contract like Luke's. Luke got 30M. This off-season, we're gonna wrap up a deal for a guy just as productive as Walton, 22 years old 6'10" solid all around guy for pennies on the dollar.

It'd actually be a great move.

Hell, Kelly doesn't even have to play to be an effective, valuable contract. Yet if he does, he'll be a nice player. It's what you'd call a win-win.

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