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Re: Lineups? 

Post#21 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Apr 3, 2014 6:45 pm

just looked at nba.com. I don't know out of which **** those numbers were pulled out but they aren't accurate.
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Post#22 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Apr 3, 2014 7:07 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:just looked at nba.com. I don't know out of which **** those numbers were pulled out but they aren't accurate.


I pulled it off ROF, so I don't know how accurate it is, but it was posted as such

Also, take consideration that the data is for the month of March only
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Post#23 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Apr 3, 2014 7:43 pm

2013-14 Season Wing Combinations

Henderson w/
MKG: 100.5 OffRtg, 96.4 DefRtg = +4.1 Net
CDR: 100.1 OffRtg, 109.5 DefRtg = -9.4 Net
Neal: 93.2 OffRtg, 107.8 DefRtg = -14.6 Net

MKG w/
CDR: 107.7 OffRtg, 100.3 DefRtg = +7.4 Net
Henderson: 100.5 OffRtg, 96.4 DefRtg = +4.1 Net
Neal: 112.7 OffRtg, 122.4 DefRtg = -9.7 Net

CDR w/
MKG: 107.7 OffRtg, 100.3 DefRtg = +7.4 Net
Neal: 112.2 OffRtg, 106.9 DefRtg = +5.3 Net
Henderson: 100.1 OffRtg, 109.5 DefRtg = -9.4 Net

Neal w/
CDR: 112.2 OffRtg, 106.9 DefRtg = +5.3 Net
MKG: 112.7 OffRtg, 122.4 DefRtg = -9.7 Net
Henderson: 93.2 OffRtg, 107.8 DefRtg = -14.6 Net
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Best Lineups (by NetRtg)

MKG w/ CDR: +7.4

CDR w/ Neal: +5.3

MKG w/ Henderson: +4.1

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Worst Lineups (by NetRtg)

Henderson w/ Neal: -14.6

MKG w/ Neal: -9.7

Henderson w/ CDR: -9.4
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Post#24 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Apr 3, 2014 7:47 pm

It look like MKG with CDR is still the best wing combination no matter how it's flipped
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Post#25 » by catch20two » Thu Apr 3, 2014 9:10 pm

It might be too drastic to just replace Hendo in the starting lineup with CDR but I've noticed that Clifford has been splitting Hendo's and CDR's minutes almost 24/24 lately even though it's mostly been at the expense of MKG.

It's clear as day that MKG and CDR play off each other well as wings on the floor. Hendo is average no matter what 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 man lineup you put him in. I can't wait until we trade him or move him to a 6th man like role where he belongs.
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Post#26 » by catch20two » Thu Apr 3, 2014 9:12 pm

MKG and CDR are the only 2 out the 4 to be a part of more than 1 wing combo with a positive net rating.
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Post#27 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:42 pm

thru 2 games @ Miami, 1st round of NBA Playoffs

Bobcats Starting Unit (Walker-Henderson-MKG-McRoberts-Jefferson)

OffRtg: 111.8
DefRtg: 81.4
NetRtg: +30.3

http://stats.nba.com/teamLineups.html?T ... e=Playoffs
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Heat Starting Unit (Chalmers-Wade-James-Bosh-Haslem)

OffRtg: 68.7
DefRtg: 113.4
NetRtg: -44.7

http://stats.nba.com/teamLineups.html?T ... e=Playoffs
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Re: Lineups? 

Post#28 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:38 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:thru 2 games @ Miami, 1st round of NBA Playoffs

Bobcats Starting Unit (Walker-Henderson-MKG-McRoberts-Jefferson)

OffRtg: 111.8
DefRtg: 81.4
NetRtg: +30.3

http://stats.nba.com/teamLineups.html?T ... e=Playoffs
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Heat Starting Unit (Chalmers-Wade-James-Bosh-Haslem)

OffRtg: 68.7
DefRtg: 113.4
NetRtg: -44.7

http://stats.nba.com/teamLineups.html?T ... e=Playoffs


we've been fantastic in the first 6 minutes of the first and third quarter. the first quarter of game 2 is the only one where this line-up didn't outscore the Heat's.
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Post#29 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:42 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:we've been fantastic in the first 6 minutes of the first and third quarter. the first quarter of game 2 is the only one where this line-up didn't outscore the Heat's.


I believe Clifford has to shorten the rotation to 8 players or at least put a quick leash on particular players, not the usual 5-7 minute intervals
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Post#30 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:45 pm

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LamarMatic7 wrote:we've been fantastic in the first 6 minutes of the first and third quarter. the first quarter of game 2 is the only one where this line-up didn't outscore the Heat's.


I believe Clifford has to shorten the rotation to 8 players or at least put a quick leash on particular players, not the usual 5-7 minute intervals

Well, for one, Biz is out of the rotation. And I totally understand Cliff, I wouldn't feel safe putting Biz on the court against the Heat either.
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Post#31 » by HornetJail » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:50 pm

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LamarMatic7 wrote:we've been fantastic in the first 6 minutes of the first and third quarter. the first quarter of game 2 is the only one where this line-up didn't outscore the Heat's.


I believe Clifford has to shorten the rotation to 8 players or at least put a quick leash on particular players, not the usual 5-7 minute intervals

Well, for one, Biz is out of the rotation. And I totally understand Cliff, I wouldn't feel safe putting Biz on the court against the Heat either.

I absolutely trust Biz on defense more than I do anyone else on the roster. Even if he fouls out in 15 minutes, that's all we need him for.
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Re: Lineups? 

Post#32 » by ball teacher » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:51 pm

I wouldnt change the starting lineup at all. Hendo has the psyche of a starter and CDR knows his role is as a bench player. CDR does have more big shot potential than Hendo though, but Hendo is tougher and plays more defensive. He (Hendo) is a big part of the reason our team defense is good.

I would definitely shorten the leash on the bench players, we need to give our starters heavy minutes from this point. Our season is on the line so we need to stick with our best players. If Neal, Tolliver, Ridnour or Neal arent providing anything, sit them down. And give Biz some run, we can use him on the defensive end. At least give him a shot, he's our best rim protector.
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Re: Lineups? 

Post#33 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:51 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:we've been fantastic in the first 6 minutes of the first and third quarter. the first quarter of game 2 is the only one where this line-up didn't outscore the Heat's.


I believe Clifford has to shorten the rotation to 8 players or at least put a quick leash on particular players, not the usual 5-7 minute intervals

Well, for one, Biz is out of the rotation. And I totally understand Cliff, I wouldn't feel safe putting Biz on the court against the Heat either.


I wouldn't take Biyombo completely out of the rotation. I think Biyombo could be a huge difference maker against a team like the Heat on the offensive glass, but he should only see the floor when one of Haslem or Andersen are on the court

If anyone should be fringely out of the rotation in this series it should be Zeller if you ask me. Nothing against the grooming rookie, but I don't know if he's tough enough for this round against the Heat
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