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Bradley Beal - Part II

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Post#681 » by Illmatic21 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:29 pm

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Illmatic21 wrote:Very interesting video I came across. Listen to what Billy Donovan says around 1:20 and Beal's comments afterwards:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doI-dIr6qjs[/youtube]

Ive thought about some of that recently and hoped he would flip the switch but it doesnt really hold weight now for several reasons.

1 is I used that logic last year. He didnt live up to the hype in college and but then found his rhythm in the 2nd half of the season (or a lil later) and was great after that. Last year he was horrible the first 2 months of the season. Even worst then he is now but just like college, he flipped the switch when the new year came and was great the rest of the season. Shooting a very high percentage and winning b2b rookie of the month awards I believe.

That shouldve been the end right there. I guess people took notice of the 2nd half last year and his great preseaon (where he was easily one of the top 5 players in the NBA) and they scouted him greatly. Still, the slump shouldnt last that long. Its pretty much been all year and instead of getting better, he's actually gotten worse over the season.

Still, I agree that he's only 20 and will get alot better. I think under a new coach he will be alot better. Just him playing up to the level of the 2nd half of last year would give us like 5 more wins right now. He's the type of guy that instead of a small leap, he could take a big leap in one year and that would make us a ton better. My thought process is that he's not playing to even the average of his ability right now. Like he has a level and next year a normal progression is a step up but I actually think he's playing under his naturally level so next year I could see him take not 1 but 2 or 3 steps up in one year

I wouldn't say Beal has been "slumping" all season. He's been slumping lately, but his overall play this season is a lesson in what happens when a player is thrust into a greater role than they can handle. At this stage in his career, Beal simply isn't good enough to be an efficient 1b/2nd option on a playoff team. He's a talented, but young player who needs to be in a structured system to bring the best out of his game. Wittman's 'system' is the opposite of structured, there's no cohesive offensive philosophy. At least not one that leads to winning basketball. When you're coaching a 20-year old NBA sophomore and you tell them to go out on the court and do whatever they want for 35mpg, the results will generally look like Beal's this season.

I thought it was interesting that Donovan pointed out how Beal wasn't used to slumping and overcoming bad shooting nights. I think he's still learning how to deal with that now. It seems like he's so confident in his shooting abilities that he's almost TOO confident.. like he thinks every jumpshot he takes will go in, just because he makes them in practice or because he's always been a great shooter. Learning how to deal with those slumps is part of maturity. Ray Allen has had some horrible shooting slumps before, but he's learned to continue getting to his efficient spots on the floor and finding a way to get himself going again.. hopefully Beal can do the same.

I think he will be a lot better next year, now that he knows what to expect when you're a focus of opposing defenses. He'll know he needs to tighten his handles, develop his post game, work on finishing at the rim, gain strength and flexibility to prevent injuries, etc. There's no way he could have done all that last offseason because of his stress fracture. But now he has a full offseason to work with, and he's seen a large sample size of what works and what doesn't.

When you consider how much time he has to improve and the high floor he started at, I can't imagine Bradley Beal not being a good NBA player 4-5 years into his career. But as fans, we will have to be extremely patient (and pray that our FO makes the right decisions with the team)
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#682 » by dckingsfan » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:49 am

Illmatic21 wrote:I wouldn't say Beal has been "slumping" all season. He's been slumping lately, but his overall play this season is a lesson in what happens when a player is thrust into a greater role than they can handle. At this stage in his career, Beal simply isn't good enough to be an efficient 1b/2nd option on a playoff team.


I think you hit the nail on the head - he fits in well with Ariza and Webster when Wall is running point and he just has to spread the floor. It was just too early for him to take on this role as 1b.

We really have to hope he takes a huge jump next year or we need to find a 1b - if we are going to take the next step.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#683 » by nate33 » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:48 pm

nate33 wrote:Beal about to post his 16th consecutive game with a FG% under 50%

Yay! He finally broke the streak, going 8-12 against Charlotte.
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Post#684 » by dobrojim » Thu Apr 3, 2014 5:38 pm

And backed that up with an even better performance against BOS' woeful defense.

It sure would be nice if he suddenly got on a hot streak for a few weeks. We'll
have to see how things go over the next few games first though. Shouldn't get
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#685 » by FAH1223 » Thu Apr 3, 2014 5:53 pm

It's all about shot selection and moving the ball.

He's not rushing long twos as much and is driving, going to the rim, passing too.

Just patience.
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Post#686 » by dckingsfan » Fri Apr 4, 2014 10:10 pm

FAH1223 wrote:It's all about shot selection and moving the ball.

He's not rushing long twos as much and is driving, going to the rim, passing too.

Just patience.


OK, will we see it three games in a row?
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Post#687 » by hands11 » Sat Apr 5, 2014 2:11 am

Wow.

Beal is on a role at the right time.

The last 3 games

12-22 28 pts
7-8 19 pts
8-12 20 pts

:thumbsup:
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#688 » by DCZards » Sat Apr 5, 2014 2:17 am

hands11 wrote:Wow.

Beal is on a role at the right time.

The last 3 games

12-22 28 pts
7-8 19 pts
8-12 20 pts

:thumbsup:


It's what Double B is capable of doing on a consistent basis. We just have to be patient enough to give him the time he needs to develop that consistency...might take a couple of more years.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#689 » by dobrojim » Sat Apr 5, 2014 5:09 pm

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hands11 wrote:Wow.

Beal is on a role at the right time.

The last 3 games

12-22 28 pts
7-8 19 pts
8-12 20 pts

:thumbsup:


It's what Double B is capable of doing on a consistent basis. We just have to be patient enough to give him the time he needs to develop that consistency...might take a couple of more years.


I'd say he's capable of being a very good player but I doubt he's capable of being consistent
in shooting 27/42 (64%) over a lengthy time span. That said, I absolutely loved what he did to
the Knicks last night. He was cold blooded. And that late foul on Smith should have been
flagrant considering he tomahawked down on BB's neck. Cheap shot, not to mention
stupid since he didn't stop the bucket. This is the BB we want to see and missed seeing
for the month of Mar and quite a bit of the rest of the season as well. Now he looks like
he did in pre-season when he was ripping the league a new one.
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Post#690 » by Ruzious » Sat Apr 5, 2014 5:20 pm

hands11 wrote:Wow.

Beal is on a role at the right time.

The last 3 games

12-22 28 pts
7-8 19 pts
8-12 20 pts

:thumbsup:

Call him Kaiser Beal.

I like that he's going to the basket more. I have no problem with him taking the mid range 2's - since the shots he's been taking have been open shots, and he's hitting them in the flow of the offense - not forcing off-balanced rushed jumpers with a hand in his face.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#691 » by FAH1223 » Sat Apr 5, 2014 7:46 pm

I was going to make the Amazingly Sucky thread but that's on hold... for now.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#692 » by hands11 » Sat Apr 5, 2014 9:47 pm

The BB NYK Mix...

This is awesome.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heYAAF2nn1k[/youtube]


And he post game interview

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... ame-4-4-14
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Post#693 » by dckingsfan » Tue Apr 8, 2014 6:08 pm

So which Beal will we see tomorrow - seems like there should be an over/under thread on his FG%
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#694 » by Illmatic21 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:42 am

Bradley Beal final 2013-2014 regular season averages:

34.7mpg, 17.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 3.3 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.2 bpg, 1.8 tpg
41.9% fg/40.2% 3pt/78.8% FT



^Pretty damn solid for a 20-year old SG starting on a playoff team. His slump in ft% is puzzling, and we've discussed the issues with long twos. Regardless, Beal projects to be a very good all-around player.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#695 » by Dark Faze » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:52 am

Fantastic stats given how bad his shot selection is most nights

Cut that out and continue working on the drive game and the skys the limit

It was definitely a better sophmore season than Johns

Really excited that the "third year breakout" is coming
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#696 » by DCZards » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:54 pm

I wake up this morning and this thread is still on page 2! C'mon people where's the love for Double B. The kid shot great last night--and has played well in both games. One thing is for sure, Brad the Beast is not afraid of the bright lights. He's done it on Broadway at MSG and now he's getting it done in Mike's House in Chi-Town.

Some here have accused Brad of being "too smug" at times, but I'd argue that that smugness--or "athletic arrogance" as I call it--is one of his best attributes.

Double B may shoot lousy in Game 3 but today he gets big ups for delivering in the clutch---again.
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Post#697 » by milellie111 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:31 pm

Very proud of Beal and the way he has matured. Only 20 years old and and will only get better!! Can't wait to see how his game continues to develop as he becomes more aggressive. Thank goodness Charlotte took Kidd-Gilchrist!!
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Post#698 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:15 am

DCZards wrote:I wake up this morning and this thread is still on page 2! C'mon people where's the love for Double B. The kid shot great last night--and has played well in both games. One thing is for sure, Brad the Beast is not afraid of the bright lights. He's done it on Broadway at MSG and now he's getting it done in Mike's House in Chi-Town.

Some here have accused Brad of being "too smug" at times, but I'd argue that that smugness--or "athletic arrogance" as I call it--is one of his best attributes.

Double B may shoot lousy in Game 3 but today he gets big ups for delivering in the clutch---again.


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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#699 » by Ruzious » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:33 am

I like that Beal has held up to the extra physical play, so far. During the regular season, I thought he shied away from it - such as against Stephenson - another young guy - against Indiana. He didn't back down from the veteran Hinrich maneuver.
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Post#700 » by crackhed » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:52 am

agree with all of the above and congrats to bradley for diversifying his game. in short order he'll be comfortable with putting the ball on the ground, short 2's, long 2's, long 3's, and every other shot a human being can make.
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