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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#41 » by SJSF » Sun Apr 6, 2014 8:07 pm

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MountainDrew wrote:Thompson has shot 41 % from 3 for the season and has potential on defense. Not awful. We knew a lot of players weren't going to produce right away, they're here for the future. When we are a winning team none of Sims, Thompson or Williams might even be here but they're the best prospects we have rght now outside of MCW, Noel and Wroten so I see nothing wrong with tracking their progress.


That's nice that he's hitting 40% of the small amount of threes he has taken. But he's a single-digit PER player. That's beyond awful. That's out of the league awful.

Thompson is not here for the future, he's here to fill out a roster spot.

Don't lump Sims in with the other single-digit PER guys. Sims has played well enough to warrant tracking his progress and think about adding him as a complimentary piece to our actual talent going forward.



It's all about development. And he is getting better along with Sims.
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#42 » by MRxBLACK » Sun Apr 6, 2014 8:45 pm

Kobblehead wrote:That's nice that he's hitting 40% of the small amount of threes he has taken. But he's a single-digit PER player. That's beyond awful. That's out of the league awful.

Thompson is not here for the future, he's here to fill out a roster spot.

Don't lump Sims in with the other single-digit PER guys. Sims has played well enough to warrant tracking his progress and think about adding him as a complimentary piece to our actual talent going forward.


I agree that PER is a useful stat but it's not the end all be all. Bruce Bowen was a single digit PER player his entire career.
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#43 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Apr 6, 2014 9:03 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:That's nice that he's hitting 40% of the small amount of threes he has taken. But he's a single-digit PER player. That's beyond awful. That's out of the league awful.

Thompson is not here for the future, he's here to fill out a roster spot.

Don't lump Sims in with the other single-digit PER guys. Sims has played well enough to warrant tracking his progress and think about adding him as a complimentary piece to our actual talent going forward.


I agree that PER is a useful stat but it's not the end all be all. Bruce Bowen was a single digit PER player his entire career.

I agree with MRxBLACK here, need context. Thompson has a very low usage percentage he doesn't waste possessions due to his inefficiency, when on the court he's apprehensive and doesn't look to shoot, which is bad, however recently he's been shooting more it seems.
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#44 » by 42uptop » Sun Apr 6, 2014 10:00 pm

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snoopdogg88 wrote:you think Henry Sims is a "gem" but you hate Hollis Thompson? Thompson has been decent.

They are about equal if you ask me. The real garbage on this team will be dumped in the offseason. Varnado, Mullens, Anderson, Moultrie, Davies.


I don't hate Hollis, I just think he's having an awful season.

Henry Sims is averaging 11 and 7 on a 17.2 PER.

Hollis is shooting 40% from beyond but making less than 1 three a game. He's putting up a pathetic 9.7 PER.

They're not equal. Henry has been much much much better (in smaller sample space, granted).


I don't think anyone was arguing that Thompson is having a good season. The point is, Thompson has been playing very well as of late. He's hitting nearly 55 % of his 3s since being elevated to a starter and is shooting the ball more often. There are only a few above average players on the entire team so improvement is worth noting

And PER is not a good stat for measuring shooters due to the inconsistent usage. even the best ones like Danny Green are under 15 for the season.
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#45 » by Kobblehead » Sun Apr 6, 2014 10:09 pm

MRxBLACK wrote:I agree that PER is a useful stat but it's not the end all be all. Bruce Bowen was a single digit PER player his entire career.


If Hollis brought something to the table defensively, I'd disregard his PER. Unfortunately, he doesn't.
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Post#46 » by Kobblehead » Sun Apr 6, 2014 10:12 pm

42uptop wrote:And PER is not a good stat for measuring shooters due to the inconsistent usage. even the best ones like Danny Green are under 15 for the season.

Well Danny Green is an inconsistent basketball player that makes poor decisions with the basketball in terms of turnovers. That's why his PER is lower than you'd like. Why do you think he's always in Pop's doghouse?
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Post#47 » by PhilasFinest » Sun Apr 6, 2014 10:57 pm

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ryst wrote:I prefer anyone starting over James Anderson, how many times we will sign shooters who cant shoot? I had enough of Meeks


Have you seen Meeks this year?


Yup, career 37.5% 3PT and this year 15 PPG and right under 40% from 3PT, with more makes from 3 than Hollis has attempted. Don't really see how He and Anderson or any "non shooters" compare.

Im not trying to trash Thompson, he's shown a decent stroke from 3 this year and has decent size for the wing, but outside of that....he hasn't wowed me with anything in particular. He's not a good ball handler, and not good at really anything outside of shooting spot up jumpers.
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Post#48 » by Skates » Mon Apr 7, 2014 2:37 am

Thompson shoots well enough off the catch to be a 3 and D guy if he can master the harder part, becoming a lockdown defensive wing. Has some length and athleticism to do it and seems to know that he is a role player. The 3 and D label gets used a little too easily these days, so while he has some potential there, and I trust the coaches to see his defensive chops as worth developing, he has earned pretty much an invite to training camp to show that he should make the team next year under his non-guaranteed contract. Many try to become the next Bruce Bowen and even Bowen himself failed half a dozen times before becoming a player of value.

Good luck to the kid still developing. BB likes him, I take that as a good sign at least, nothing more or less.
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#49 » by PhilasFinest » Mon Apr 7, 2014 3:43 am

Skates wrote:Thompson shoots well enough off the catch to be a 3 and D guy if he can master the harder part, becoming a lockdown defensive wing. Has some length and athleticism to do it and seems to know that he is a role player. The 3 and D label gets used a little too easily these days, so while he has some potential there, and I trust the coaches to see his defensive chops as worth developing, he has earned pretty much an invite to training camp to show that he should make the team next year under his non-guaranteed contract. Many try to become the next Bruce Bowen and even Bowen himself failed half a dozen times before becoming a player of value.

Good luck to the kid still developing. BB likes him, I take that as a good sign at least, nothing more or less.


well said.
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#50 » by ryst » Mon Apr 7, 2014 3:55 am

SJSF wrote:
ryst wrote:I prefer anyone starting over James Anderson, how many times we will sign shooters who cant shoot? I had enough of Meeks


Have you seen Meeks this year?


yes, I live in LA

have you seen Meeks when he play for the sixers?

have you seen Nick Young this year and last year?

have you seen players who have best years under Danthony ?

they all suck
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#51 » by PhilasFinest » Mon Apr 7, 2014 5:19 am

ryst wrote:
SJSF wrote:
ryst wrote:I prefer anyone starting over James Anderson, how many times we will sign shooters who cant shoot? I had enough of Meeks


Have you seen Meeks this year?


yes, I live in LA

have you seen Meeks when he play for the sixers?

have you seen Nick Young this year and last year?

have you seen players who have best years under Danthony ?

they all suck


LOL, Not arguing that there any good, BUT for the case of this thread....

if Jodie Meeks and Nick Young suck, Hollis Thompson is ________?
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Post#52 » by eyeatoma » Mon Apr 7, 2014 5:21 am

Mik317 wrote:His length will make it easy to keep him around.

no homo.

It allows him to rebound, a play defense, so basically he'd be capable of contributing without scoring...

top 10 rookie in the game too (this class is **** dreadful)


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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#53 » by ryst » Mon Apr 7, 2014 7:39 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:
ryst wrote:
SJSF wrote:
Have you seen Meeks this year?


yes, I live in LA

have you seen Meeks when he play for the sixers?

have you seen Nick Young this year and last year?

have you seen players who have best years under Danthony ?

they all suck


LOL, Not arguing that there any good, BUT for the case of this thread....

if Jodie Meeks and Nick Young suck, Hollis Thompson is ________?


I don't think Hollis is that good , you can find someone like him every year in the undrafted pool

the difference between Thompson to Meeks and Nick Young is that he know who he is and is not trying to be someone he is not

Meeks thinks he is Ray Allen

Nick Young thinks he is Kobe Bryant
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#54 » by PhilasFinest » Mon Apr 7, 2014 7:57 pm

I don't really get the point.... What does Thompson "know" about himself?

He can hit spot up 3's, thats about it right now. (I know he has length and size, but right now he is NOT a very good defender). He comes in, is passive and occasionally shoots when wide open.

Jodie Meeks is a shooter, his role is to come in and shoot 3's....and thats exactly what he does.

Nick Youngs role is to be a scorer....and thats exactly what he does, he looks to score the ball.
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Post#55 » by willywazza » Wed Apr 9, 2014 4:19 am

Sims and Thompson are the two players I would try to keep around. Both have the potential to develop into solid reserves on a playoff team.
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#56 » by Ericb5 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:21 am

Kobblehead wrote:
MRxBLACK wrote:I agree that PER is a useful stat but it's not the end all be all. Bruce Bowen was a single digit PER player his entire career.


If Hollis brought something to the table defensively, I'd disregard his PER. Unfortunately, he doesn't.


I think that the PER stat is very good in the right context, but it has some blind spots too. For someone like Thompson I think that it should be ignored for now.

The important thing for Hollis at this point is to establish an NBA skill. He is showing that he can shoot the three. Beyond that, we don't know what more he can become. Let's wait until he settles in to a role to assess things like PER.
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Re: Hollis Thompson becoming a player 

Post#57 » by PhilasFinest » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:38 pm

Thompson needs to just keep shooting 3's everyday and working on giving 110% effort on D and perfecting basic defensive fundamentals.

If he does those things, he can stick around in the NBA as a bench guy.
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Sixers officially exercise team option on Hollis Thompson 

Post#58 » by Kobblehead » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:13 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers/status/748161166078156801[/tweet]

He'll make $1,015,696 in 2016-17.

This was a necessary move. Plus, the game threads wouldn't be as entertaining without him.
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Re: Sixers officially exercise team option on Hollis Thompson 

Post#59 » by ankle420breaker » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:05 am

I've never been too fond of Hollis. Extremely one-dimensional player. That said, this is a bargain and he won't be asked to do as much next season. I actually foresee him strictly being a zone buster and playing a much more limited role going forward.

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Re: Sixers officially exercise team option on Hollis Thompson 

Post#60 » by Arsenal » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:13 am

$1M/yr for a wing who shoots 40% from 3 is a bargain. I'd consider trading him for value if someone would give us something for him. He might have some value around the league at his low price point.

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