2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt III

RSCD3_ · Post #881 » by **RSCD3_** » Mon Apr 7, 2014 12:22 am

PaulieWal wrote:
QPR wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:What else do you want people to say? Pretty much everyone's admitted Durant's the MVP.

You want people to say things they don't believe?

I just don't think it needs a disclaimer.

Not really a disclaimer. Almost everybody here has acknowledged Durant's historic season and thinks that he deserves the MVP. It's more about having a general discussion about the two players. This is the MVP thread but really right now it's serving as an overall comparison thread.

This is correct

Most sensible fans feel like durant will win

Only question left is the margin

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MisterHibachi · Post #882 » by **MisterHibachi** » Mon Apr 7, 2014 12:41 am

QPR wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:What else do you want people to say? Pretty much everyone's admitted Durant's the MVP.

You want people to say things they don't believe?

I just don't think it needs a disclaimer.

That's what happens when you're great. People put disclaimers on your accomplishments. Go read that LeBron youngest to 23k thread. First response should tell you everything about how all time greats are treated, Durant is no exception.

So instead of complaining about the disclaimers, just be happy that your guy is winning his first MVP.

Post #883 » by **PaulieWal** » Mon Apr 7, 2014 12:44 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
QPR wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:What else do you want people to say? Pretty much everyone's admitted Durant's the MVP.

You want people to say things they don't believe?

I just don't think it needs a disclaimer.

That's what happens when you're great. People put disclaimers on your accomplishments. Go read that LeBron youngest to 23k thread. First response should tell you everything about how all time greats are treated, Durant is no exception.

Funny thing is KD isn't even receiving the LeBron treatment in this thread. Almost all people including Heat/LeBron fans have said KD has been better this season, deserving MVP, historic season, all-time great, great player etc. All people are saying are that LeBron has shown flashes this year when he was engaged in Jan-Feb and was as good as better than KD. And for KD to become the undisputed best player he would have to outperform LeBron in the playoffs (not necessarily head to head, for me he doesn't even have to win a ring but I do think LeBron will turn it up in the playoffs, he's obviously coasting right now).

Other than that, there is nothing wrong in saying both LeBron and KD have had messed up lineups and their 2nd best player missing a LOT of games.

MisterHibachi · Post #884 » by **MisterHibachi** » Mon Apr 7, 2014 12:48 am

PaulieWal wrote:Funny thing is KD isn't even receiving the LeBron treatment in this thread. Almost all people including Heat/LeBron fans have said KD has been better this season, deserving MVP, historic season, all-time great, great player etc. All people are saying are that LeBron has shown flashes this year when he was engaged in Jan-Feb and was as good as better than KD.

Other than that, there is nothing wrong in saying both LeBron and KD have had messed up lineups and their 2nd best player missing a LOT of games.

Agreed. Talking about LeBron's season doesn't necessarily mean it's better than Durant, which is what people seem to think its implying and get offended about it. They just don't wanna see LeBron's name in this thread at all lol

Post #885 » by **PaulieWal** » Mon Apr 7, 2014 12:54 am

MisterHibachi wrote:They just don't wanna see LeBron's name in this thread at all lol

Yup, but as I said this is serving as an overall comparison thread rather than the MVP thread because the race is over.

Compared to LeBron accolades thread or any other LeBron thread (not that I care about people "disclaiming his achievements"), the posters here have been quite complimentary of KD and rightfully so. He deserves it.

mswenson · Post #886 » by **mswenson** » Mon Apr 7, 2014 4:06 am

the heat would have had a better record than the thunder already but they been getting bs calls all year. The pacers game and the fake foul to end the timberwolves game. Oh yeah and the rig job over in chicago that had the heat aka lebron and the oldest team and the league shooting 0 freethrows for 2 games straight

sp6r=underrated · Post #887 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Tue Apr 8, 2014 2:10 am

Am I wrong to believe Chris Paul would warrant MVP consideration if he didn't get hurt during the season?

Hero · Post #888 » by **Hero** » Tue Apr 8, 2014 2:13 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:Am I wrong to believe Chris Paul would warrant MVP consideration if he didn't get hurt during the season?

If you mean he would be in 3rd place, no you're not wrong. If you're thinking he would be competing for 1st or 2nd, yes.

deneem4 · Post #889 » by **deneem4** » Tue Apr 8, 2014 9:48 pm

It's like people are saying lebron let kd win it because he tired or whatevrr, and if lebron wanted to win it he could've did so with ease....

therealbig3 · Post #890 » by **therealbig3** » Tue Apr 8, 2014 10:20 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:Am I wrong to believe Chris Paul would warrant MVP consideration if he didn't get hurt during the season?

Yeah, I think people would have talked about him more...but his injury kind of revealed that Blake Griffin has been a hugely underrated part of the Clippers' success. I'd say Griffin has been their MVP and best overall player this year. He's the guy that I would say should get MVP consideration if not for LeBron and Durant.

And the Clippers don't have as good of a record as the Thunder anyway, which is one of the main points in Durant's favor: the way he kept his team elite despite Westbrook missing so much time.

deneem4 · Post #891 » by **deneem4** » Wed Apr 9, 2014 8:36 am

http://youtu.be/_Ma3YpyuuxE

he predicted it

Sinant · Post #892 » by **Sinant** » Wed Apr 9, 2014 5:42 pm

Looks like the media finally gave up on creating suspense too: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10754 ... -race-over

koolcrud · Post #893 » by **koolcrud** » Wed Apr 9, 2014 5:46 pm

Not a race so much as a trouncing. Durant could be mere months away from being acknowledged by the majority of NBA fans as the best player in basketball, if he can finish this season with a title.

MaliBrah · Post #894 » by **MaliBrah** » Wed Apr 9, 2014 11:36 pm

lebron concedes MVP to durant

http://blogs.herald.com/miami_heat/2014 ... award.html

Post #895 » by **PaulieWal** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:37 am

This seems relevant here:

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10758696/lebron-james-says-kevin-durant-most-consistent-far-mvp-award

Bits from the article:

"I would say he's the most consistent basketball player as far as the MVP this year, man," James said. "He's put up some great numbers."

"I think KD has had one heck of a season," James said of Durant, the league's leading scorer. "And, you know, if he's rewarded with the MVP, it would be great. It would be awesome for him, for his family. He's played MVP-type basketball. I don't really get caught up into what people say. At the end of the day, they have their own votes and they go from there."

mswenson · Post #896 » by **mswenson** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:13 am

the durant you are seeing today is the one you will see in the playoffs. getting bailed out by westbrook. what a choke job

koolcrud · Post #897 » by **koolcrud** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:57 am

mswenson wrote:the durant you are seeing today is the one you will see in the playoffs. getting bailed out by westbrook. what a choke job

KD playoff averages: 29, 8 and 4. KD career averages: 27, 7 and 4. Yea, he'll probably fall apart in the playoffs. :roll:

Post #898 » by **kingkirk** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:36 am

Professional answer from Lebron there.

GREENE1148 · Post #899 » by **GREENE1148** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:21 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EiPvYRUcEw[/youtube]

Serge summed it up for us... lol

Hoopz Afrik · Post #900 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:44 pm

GREENE1148 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EiPvYRUcEw[/youtube]

Serge summed it up for us... lol

Yeah, it hasn't been a very competitive race. ESPN wants us to believe that LeBron has a viable chance but every unbiased basketball fan knows that KD has had this rapped up almost from end to end and at the very least since ASB.

Who will be the 2013-14 MVP?