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Re: "Guys?" The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#861 » by Elden Payton » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:42 am

Marvel wrote:I would take Biz over a 40 year old Elton freaking Brand 7 days a week twice on Sundays.


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Post#862 » by Braggins » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:07 am

Everyone knows players completely stop developing at the age of 21... (sarcasm) Some of you are laughably stupid...
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Post#863 » by Radu_Hornets » Tue Apr 8, 2014 3:26 pm

I just watched the stat again and now Bismack Biyombo is the secnd best rim protector in the NBA. Hibbert is 4th.

It's Ryan Hollins the best at the moment.

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Post#864 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Apr 8, 2014 3:47 pm

Radu_Bobcats wrote:I just watched the stat again and now Bismack Biyombo is the secnd best rim protector in the NBA. Hibbert is 4th.

It's Ryan Hollins the best at the moment.

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Ryan Hollins average less than 8 minutes per game (7.9 MPG), less than a block per game (0.5 BPG), and barely over 2 opponent field goal attempts at the rim per game (2.2 opponent FGA at rim per game). I don't think he qualify. Bismack Biyombo is still advanced statistically the best rim protector in the league
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Re: "Guys?" The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#865 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Apr 8, 2014 4:13 pm

Among qualified players, Bismack Biyombo is...

3rd in the league in blocks per minute & block percentage, only behind Anthony Davis and Serge Ibaka

...and while Davis & Ibaka may block shots at a higher rate than Biyombo, the field percentage of shots made at the rim on them is relatively high compared to the latter. Davis allow 49.0% of field goals to be made at the rim and Ibaka allow 44.3%. Biyombo only allows 39.3%
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Re: "Guys?" The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#866 » by BeesWax » Tue Apr 8, 2014 4:40 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Among qualified players, Bismack Biyombo is...

3rd in the league in blocks per minute & block percentage, only behind Anthony Davis and Serge Ibaka

...and while Davis & Ibaka may block shots at a higher rate than Biyombo, the field percentage of shots made at the rim on them is relatively high compared to the latter. Davis allow 49.0% of field goals to be made at the rim and Ibaka allow 44.3%. Biyombo only allows 39.3%


Those are elite level numbers. The key for him in developing some more offense and maybe some footwork to get him in at the PF spot a little more next season.
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Post#867 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:27 am

Assuming he isn't traded, which I honestly don't think he will be Biyombo will need to improve quite a bit next season. He has a 5.4 mill qualifying offer for 2015-16, and Bonnell reported the Bobcats were stressing about whether or not to pick up his 4 million dollar option for next season.

I hope he breaks out next year. Its bout time.
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Post#868 » by countryboi » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:30 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Assuming he isn't traded, which I honestly don't think he will be Biyombo will need to improve quite a bit next season. He has a 5.4 mill qualifying offer for 2015-16, and Bonnell reported the Bobcats were stressing about whether or not to pick up his 4 million dollar option for next season.

I hope he breaks out next year. Its bout time.


even if he breaks out it doesnt matter because he is a backup to the teams best player...so he is never going to get any real burn
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Post#869 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:32 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Assuming he isn't traded, which I honestly don't think he will be Biyombo will need to improve quite a bit next season. He has a 5.4 mill qualifying offer for 2015-16, and Bonnell reported the Bobcats were stressing about whether or not to pick up his 4 million dollar option for next season.

I hope he breaks out next year. Its bout time.


Biyombo is worth more than Henderson considering the value of big men and how he stack up in advanced statistics such as rim protection, block percentage, and defensive rebounding percentage, so I don't know how they'd be be reluctant to pay him such
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Post#870 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:34 am

countryboi wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Assuming he isn't traded, which I honestly don't think he will be Biyombo will need to improve quite a bit next season. He has a 5.4 mill qualifying offer for 2015-16, and Bonnell reported the Bobcats were stressing about whether or not to pick up his 4 million dollar option for next season.

I hope he breaks out next year. Its bout time.


even if he breaks out it doesnt matter because he is a backup to the teams best player...so he is never going to get any real burn


He will get plenty of burn will Jefferson moves on. Biyombo is still only 21. He has time, but next year will be his 4th year.
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Post#871 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:34 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Assuming he isn't traded, which I honestly don't think he will be Biyombo will need to improve quite a bit next season. He has a 5.4 mill qualifying offer for 2015-16, and Bonnell reported the Bobcats were stressing about whether or not to pick up his 4 million dollar option for next season.

I hope he breaks out next year. Its bout time.


Biyombo is worth more than Henderson considering the value of big men and how he stack up in advanced statistics such as rim protection, block percentage, and defensive rebounding percentage, so I don't know how they'd be be reluctant to pay him such


Pretty sure they regret paying Henderson that contract as well.
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Post#872 » by countryboi » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:06 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Assuming he isn't traded, which I honestly don't think he will be Biyombo will need to improve quite a bit next season. He has a 5.4 mill qualifying offer for 2015-16, and Bonnell reported the Bobcats were stressing about whether or not to pick up his 4 million dollar option for next season.

I hope he breaks out next year. Its bout time.


Biyombo is worth more than Henderson considering the value of big men and how he stack up in advanced statistics such as rim protection, block percentage, and defensive rebounding percentage, so I don't know how they'd be be reluctant to pay him such


Pretty sure they regret paying Henderson that contract as well.


i think all of us regret paying henderson almost as soon as it happened
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Post#873 » by Radu_Hornets » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:42 am

Biyombo should look more to play like DeAndre Jordan than Jefferson... It's more Doable
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Post#874 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:15 pm

I think Bismack Biyombo should focus on playing like a mini Dikembe Mutombo. Biyombo reminds me of Mutombo coming out of Georgetown and being drafted by the Denver Nuggets
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Post#875 » by Johnlac1 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:25 pm

Which begs the question: how would the Bobcats have done with Biyombo at center all season instead of Jefferson? They for sure would have maybe won 25-30 games. In short, not nearly as well. Bismack would probably have had numbers like 8, 12, and 3. Which proves a superior offensive player is worth more than a much weaker off. but better def. player.
But with Jefferson the starting center for at least the next few years, will Biyombo's development be stalled? He's certainly a better player and a better offensive player than he was two years ago. But he still has a lot to learn on the off. end. Nevertheless, how long will Jefferson be the Charlotte center? How many years does he have left? I hope winning in the short term with Jefferson doesn't hurt Charlotte in the long run.
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Post#876 » by DY_nasty » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:59 pm

I think a lot of people saw that Biyombo is much, MUCH better suited to a high pace and high transition game than what we do right now.

So

Next year, when (I personally believe) we run more when Jefferson is sitting, he should be able to show off his skills a bit more. Which is why I hope he sign the extension now. There are very few bigs at his age that are in a better position for a possible 'great' contract.
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Post#877 » by BeesWax » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:28 pm

Johnlac1 wrote:Which begs the question: how would the Bobcats have done with Biyombo at center all season instead of Jefferson? They for sure would have maybe won 25-30 games. In short, not nearly as well. Bismack would probably have had numbers like 8, 12, and 3. Which proves a superior offensive player is worth more than a much weaker off. but better def. player.
But with Jefferson the starting center for at least the next few years, will Biyombo's development be stalled? He's certainly a better player and a better offensive player than he was two years ago. But he still has a lot to learn on the off. end. Nevertheless, how long will Jefferson be the Charlotte center? How many years does he have left? I hope winning in the short term with Jefferson doesn't hurt Charlotte in the long run.

In the games Al missed including the playoff game we were .500 overall. I would say without Al all year we end up in a similar spot to where we were. We would have spent the money somewhere and brought in some better depth maybe which would have helped our second unit a ton.
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Post#878 » by Radu_Hornets » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:20 pm

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Johnlac1 wrote:Which begs the question: how would the Bobcats have done with Biyombo at center all season instead of Jefferson? They for sure would have maybe won 25-30 games. In short, not nearly as well. Bismack would probably have had numbers like 8, 12, and 3. Which proves a superior offensive player is worth more than a much weaker off. but better def. player.
But with Jefferson the starting center for at least the next few years, will Biyombo's development be stalled? He's certainly a better player and a better offensive player than he was two years ago. But he still has a lot to learn on the off. end. Nevertheless, how long will Jefferson be the Charlotte center? How many years does he have left? I hope winning in the short term with Jefferson doesn't hurt Charlotte in the long run.

In the games Al missed including the playoff game we were .500 overall. I would say without Al all year we end up in a similar spot to where we were. We would have spent the money somewhere and brought in some better depth maybe which would have helped our second unit a ton.


It was the beginning of the season, teams doesn't play the same way as they do at the end of the season.
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Post#879 » by BeesWax » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:25 pm

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Johnlac1 wrote:Which begs the question: how would the Bobcats have done with Biyombo at center all season instead of Jefferson? They for sure would have maybe won 25-30 games. In short, not nearly as well. Bismack would probably have had numbers like 8, 12, and 3. Which proves a superior offensive player is worth more than a much weaker off. but better def. player.
But with Jefferson the starting center for at least the next few years, will Biyombo's development be stalled? He's certainly a better player and a better offensive player than he was two years ago. But he still has a lot to learn on the off. end. Nevertheless, how long will Jefferson be the Charlotte center? How many years does he have left? I hope winning in the short term with Jefferson doesn't hurt Charlotte in the long run.

In the games Al missed including the playoff game we were .500 overall. I would say without Al all year we end up in a similar spot to where we were. We would have spent the money somewhere and brought in some better depth maybe which would have helped our second unit a ton.


It was the beginning of the season, teams doesn't play the same way as they do at the end of the season.

You are correct as Biz got more time and improved we would have gotten better. Add in time to adjust to the extra pieces we had with the 13.5 Jefferson got and we may have finished better off.
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Post#880 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:26 pm

Absolute madness to think we would be anywhere near 43 wins with Biyombo playing instead of Jefferson. I refuse to even debate something like that.
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