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Post#81 » by Clarity » Tue Apr 8, 2014 5:18 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:You only say stats of %, but you can't argue my facts, because facts don't lie, and this say that Smith is so slightly better fit than Monroe (when both are horribles).


There is nothing to argue, you're literally arguing that a 28 year old PF who takes 65% of his shots away from the rim while shooting at a 30% clip is a better fit with this team moving forward than a 23 year old PF who takes 70% of his shots at the rim while shooting 56%.

Stop arguing something so silly, you don't even like Josh.
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Post#82 » by Clarity » Tue Apr 8, 2014 5:39 pm

Billl wrote:"If Smith moves to the four position, does that mean that he stop shooting threes? I don't think it will make much of a difference to him."

eh - he was a 46% shooting PF and has been a 42% shooting SF. That is a pretty big gap. His mentality might not be different, but the opportunities he gets sure are. Every minute he spends down in the post, setting screens, or getting rebounding position is one less chance he has to hoist a long J. You basically need to keep him out of situations where he has the opportunity to make dumb decisions.

Look at it this way, if Dre kept wandering out the the perimeter, would a good pg swing the ball to him for a jumper? Of course not. Our pg needs the same mentality with smith and needs the coaches backing when smith gets mad about it. If we don't have the on court leadership to wave smith off and get him in proper position, we won't be successful with him on the floor. The guy is a finisher. You need to get him the ball in position to finish.


Actually, we posted these numbers below yesterday. They show he's basically the same inefficient guy at PF. Additionally, he isnt a young guy just learning, he is in the middle of his prime now.

Josh took 464 shots inside 5 feet last year, shooting 70%. He took 177 from 5-9 feet & shot 34%, he took 52 from 10-14 & shot 15%, he took 166 from 15-19 & shot 30% & 321 shots from 20-29 feet & shot 32%.

You don't want me to post this year's numbers.

Monroe took 726 shots at the rim & hit those at a 57% clip, he took 138 from 5-9 feet at a 30% clip & 159 from 1--29 feet at a 30% clip.

Neither guy can shoot outside 5 feet.

Monroe took 726 shots at the rim & 297 outside 5 feet.
Josh took 464 shots at the rim & 716 outside 5 feet.

One is a smart player with a high bball IQ & one is not.
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Post#83 » by Redeemed » Tue Apr 8, 2014 6:23 pm

Remember when teams used to leave Dwayne Wade open? They would just back off and give him the jumper. He would just dribble a little closer and hit the runner. They adjusted by trying to step up on the runner, he took it all the way in for the dunk. Then he added a post game. Then he added a bank shot. Then he shot threes. Dude was a competitor who always looked to get better.

What's your excuse Josh Smith? Should we blame X's and O's? Should we blame younger players? :noway:
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Post#84 » by Billl » Tue Apr 8, 2014 7:09 pm

"Actually, we posted these numbers below yesterday. They show he's basically the same inefficient guy at PF."

If your numbers show that 42% is the same as 46% overall shooting, then your numbers don't mean much.
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Post#85 » by paQo the BAWSER » Tue Apr 8, 2014 8:52 pm

Clarity wrote:
paQo the BAWSER wrote:You only say stats of %, but you can't argue my facts, because facts don't lie, and this say that Smith is so slightly better fit than Monroe (when both are horribles).


There is nothing to argue, you're literally arguing that a 28 year old PF who takes 65% of his shots away from the rim while shooting at a 30% clip is a better fit with this team moving forward than a 23 year old PF who takes 70% of his shots at the rim while shooting 56%.

Stop arguing something so silly, you don't even like Josh.

Yeah, the better fit next to Drummond is a guy who takes 70% of his shots at the rim :lol: :lol: :lol:
Come on man, you can do it better.
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Post#86 » by Clarity » Tue Apr 8, 2014 10:12 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:Yeah, the better fit next to Drummond is a guy who takes 70% of his shots at the rim :lol: :lol: :lol:
Come on man, you can do it better.


Forget Drummond, we dont even use him now. Is the guy who shoots jumpers at a Ray Allen rate but makes only 30% of them a good fit for this team moving forward or no?

You are literally the only one on here who is failing to comprehend this. Its mind boggling, this is literally 1+1=2. Its in black & white facts, this isnt my opinion or anything.


Redeemed wrote:Remember when teams used to leave Dwayne Wade open? They would just back off and give him the jumper. He would just dribble a little closer and hit the runner. They adjusted by trying to step up on the runner, he took it all the way in for the dunk. Then he added a post game. Then he added a bank shot. Then he shot threes. Dude was a competitor who always looked to get better.

What's your excuse Josh Smith? Should we blame X's and O's? Should we blame younger players? :noway:


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Billl wrote:"Actually, we posted these numbers below yesterday. They show he's basically the same inefficient guy at PF."

If your numbers show that 42% is the same as 46% overall shooting, then your numbers don't mean much.


Bill, what I posted are your 42 & 46% broken down.

Josh shot 70% inside 5 feet last year & 30% outside of 5 feet as a full time PF. He took 716 shots outside of 5 feet & 464 shots inside of 5 feet as a full time PF.

So yeah, same airhead player.
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Post#87 » by paQo the BAWSER » Tue Apr 8, 2014 11:19 pm

Do you read yourself Clarity??? When you talk about Smith sounds like he was a D-League player man, he isn't perfect, even near to be perfect, he's dumb and shoots horrible, but he can take some mid-long shots, he's good shooting at the left corner, and he isn't bad shooting the left-front 3 point.

He always shoots better from the left, he's fu**ing terrible from the right side. But he can, bad, but he can, Monroe can't. You laugh at this but is an absolutely truth and if you don't have so many bandwagons here who claim Monroe is the next Webber, you could see people who can explain it with facts (like you like it) better than me because I'm spanish and can't speak/write english so well.

I explained you with facts that Smith was a better fit than Drummond, but you refuse it. He's slightly better, but playing PF with a better perimeter defense and getting the ball in a right system near to the rim, he's a better fit than Monroe.

Monroe could be a beast playing next to Anthony Davis or Ibaka. But he's a C, and you never ever going to understand this. Same as Smith as SF, for sure.

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