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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#101 » by HomoSapien » Wed Apr 9, 2014 6:22 pm

musiqsoulchild wrote:Seriously, you need to do the following:

PM the below details to one of our mods whom you trust:
Name, Age, City you are in at present, Country and the school you are in.

I am not feeling comfortable with this whole thing...there are way too many atrocities perpetrated on young adults and women...all in the name of honor. **** that.....send someone your personal info right away MnM.


I agree with this, but rather than it being a Mod it should be someone you know.
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#102 » by kyrv » Wed Apr 9, 2014 6:28 pm

MnM24 wrote:Hey all, just an update:
I just talked to my dad, I'm scared I'm not going to the US. I told him if he doesn't give me a ticket, then I'll tell the embassy everything.

He said ok go ahead and we'll tell him about your poor grades (the grading system is a way different format and there is no multiple choice) and your lack of attendance (I've been really sick) at this institution also we'll show him texts about you getting angry with us.

Also he said he is going to show the local police (from IL) my old phone that has texts about weed ex asking how much for a half zip etc...

Mind you, I have two main charges against them: 1) not giving me my passport & 2) grandpa threatened to kidnap me and God knows what will happen then.

I'm going to send an email to the us embassy tonight itself just to be safe highlighting everything that's happened.

My mom and grandpa apparently came and are coming on the 12th to pick me and my friend here up to go to a hotel.

I'm really scared to go in the car with them after we drop off my friend at his place but I have no other mode of transport.


1) The embassy could care less about your grades or attendance. If your parents tell the embassy about your grades, that will work in your favor, showing what you are dealing with.

2) I'm fairly positive the IL police won't know or care about texts. Fairly certain they are not actionable.

3) As others said, please let the embassy know ahead of time who is picking you up and let them know you will contact them after. Please let the embassy know that you fear for your safety. I fear for your safety.

4) Great idea also to let someone know, that you know, where you are at etc.

Damn. :(
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#103 » by kyrv » Wed Apr 9, 2014 6:29 pm

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Gar Paxdorf wrote:There's a 99% chance that they are just going to sit down with you and try to rationally convince you to stay in school there, now that they desperate threats haven't worked. But yes, be ready to bolt on a moment's notice just in case they try something sinister. It really is extremely unlikely but be ready with your ID and cab money (all the money you have should be on you hidden and secure) just in case.

Yes, I'm going to finish packing everything tonight itself and there is no way in hell I'll come back here once I get past the gates.


Great. Good luck man.

Please update this thread also when you can so we know you are okay (and hopefully in a different and safe location).
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#104 » by MalikJoakim24 » Wed Apr 9, 2014 6:30 pm

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MnM24 wrote:I'm thinking of just crashing at his place, what do you think red?


I mean this with all due respect, but it seems odd to ask someone else if *you* should get into a car with your family or crash with your friend. How are any of us going to provide any real answers? What about your friend's safety? Should he even be entering the car? Are you putting him in harms way?

Many of us use RealGM to suss out things in our personal life, but at the end of the day this is a basketball message board. I would hope that you're not just putting your energy into this thread, and are also talking to people who personally know you. If this is as dire and real as you are telling us, it seems really important that you tell people you know and trust what's going on in case something actually happens. Have you tried contacting your local police department?

He'll be 100% safe; I'm just worried about me after they drop him off becaude my grandpa previously said if he wanted to kidnap me, he can do it easily.

Yes, many people know what's going on here at the college (seniors) I can trust. I've been in contact with the US embassy and awaiting their response.
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#105 » by HomoSapien » Wed Apr 9, 2014 6:34 pm

MnM24 wrote:He'll be 100% safe; I'm just worried about me after they drop him off becaude my grandpa previously said if he wanted to kidnap me, he can do it easily.


But how do you know this? If your grandfather is capable of having you kidnapped, what's stopping him from also hurting your friend?

Yes, many people know what's going on here at the college (seniors) I can trust. I've been in contact with the US embassy and awaiting their response.


You need to contact friends back home (meaning which state you live in) and make them aware too. If something happens, there is going to be a big jurisdiction issue.
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#106 » by MalikJoakim24 » Wed Apr 9, 2014 6:36 pm

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red222 wrote:I aint even gonna lie I would check the car before i get in. To be honest I would conceal a weapon if possible. If she was being straightforward I wouldn't even have typed that but that scenario just seems off.

I'll be good until my friend is dropped off; he'll be with us and I think if they would try something, it will only be after he is dropped off at his place.

I'm thinking of just crashing at his place, what do you think red?

Does the friend communicate with your family or does he know about the situation? If he is trustworthy why not? It sounds more beneficial for your safety.

Yes, he and many other friends here know about the situation, he's like an older brother to me.

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Great. Good luck man.

Please update this thread also when you can so we know you are okay (and hopefully in a different and safe location).

Thanks, hopefully I'll be home soon. The worst thing is I haven't seen any Bulls games this season :cry:
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#107 » by MalikJoakim24 » Wed Apr 9, 2014 6:40 pm

HomoSapien wrote: But how do you know this? If your grandfather is capable of having you kidnapped, what's stopping him from also hurting your friend?

You need to contact friends back home (meaning which state you live in) and make them aware too. If something happens, there is going to be a big jurisdiction issue.

I know this because my mom is there and she & my grandpa thinks of him as a second son because he really helped me / adviced me a lot when I came here.

Yeah, I've told some pals about it through email, their advice is similar to many people's in this thread and that is to gtfo out of this place ASAP.
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#108 » by kyrv » Wed Apr 9, 2014 7:00 pm

MnM24 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote: But how do you know this? If your grandfather is capable of having you kidnapped, what's stopping him from also hurting your friend?

You need to contact friends back home (meaning which state you live in) and make them aware too. If something happens, there is going to be a big jurisdiction issue.

I know this because my mom is there and she & my grandpa thinks of him as a second son because he really helped me / adviced me a lot when I came here.

Yeah, I've told some pals about it through email, their advice is similar to many people's in this thread and that is to gtfo out of this place ASAP.


Ya I mean at first it was like, just stick it out, but there appears to be a credible thread to your safety and well being. Better safe than sorry. Only get one go round. :( :)
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#109 » by Keller61 » Wed Apr 9, 2014 7:21 pm

MnM24 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
MnM24 wrote:I'm thinking of just crashing at his place, what do you think red?


I mean this with all due respect, but it seems odd to ask someone else if *you* should get into a car with your family or crash with your friend. How are any of us going to provide any real answers? What about your friend's safety? Should he even be entering the car? Are you putting him in harms way?

Many of us use RealGM to suss out things in our personal life, but at the end of the day this is a basketball message board. I would hope that you're not just putting your energy into this thread, and are also talking to people who personally know you. If this is as dire and real as you are telling us, it seems really important that you tell people you know and trust what's going on in case something actually happens. Have you tried contacting your local police department?

He'll be 100% safe; I'm just worried about me after they drop him off becaude my grandpa previously said if he wanted to kidnap me, he can do it easily.

Yes, many people know what's going on here at the college (seniors) I can trust. I've been in contact with the US embassy and awaiting their response.


If you really don't trust your grandpa and think he could be dangerous, then you probably shouldn't get in a car with him. If you're more comfortable taking a cab, then do it. You're an adult; they can't tell you what to do.

For a second, forget that these people are your family. You are an independent adult citizen who is being told to do things by other adults. You don't have to obey them if you don't want to.

If I were in a situation like you describe (granted, it may not be as dire as I am interpreting it) - in a foreign country where the local police are corrupt and unreliable, and potentially dangerous criminals are trying to force me into a bad situation - I would just want to get to that U.S. embassy as soon as I could.
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#110 » by samwana » Wed Apr 9, 2014 7:53 pm

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MnM24 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
I mean this with all due respect, but it seems odd to ask someone else if *you* should get into a car with your family or crash with your friend. How are any of us going to provide any real answers? What about your friend's safety? Should he even be entering the car? Are you putting him in harms way?

Many of us use RealGM to suss out things in our personal life, but at the end of the day this is a basketball message board. I would hope that you're not just putting your energy into this thread, and are also talking to people who personally know you. If this is as dire and real as you are telling us, it seems really important that you tell people you know and trust what's going on in case something actually happens. Have you tried contacting your local police department?

He'll be 100% safe; I'm just worried about me after they drop him off becaude my grandpa previously said if he wanted to kidnap me, he can do it easily.

Yes, many people know what's going on here at the college (seniors) I can trust. I've been in contact with the US embassy and awaiting their response.


If you really don't trust your grandpa and think he could be dangerous, then you probably shouldn't get in a car with him. If you're more comfortable taking a cab, then do it. You're an adult; they can't tell you what to do.

For a second, forget that these people are your family. You are an independent adult citizen who is being told to do things by other adults. You don't have to obey them if you don't want to.

If I were in a situation like you describe (granted, it may not be as dire as I am interpreting it) - in a foreign country where the local police are corrupt and unreliable, and potentially dangerous criminals are trying to force me into a bad situation - I would just want to get to that U.S. embassy as soon as I could.


I think keller61 brings up a key point, they may be your familiy, but they don't seem to really care for your well-being. That's not uncommon, they think they know best, but in reality they don't know ****. And forget they are family, try and get out of that country. No matter what. Do you have any money at all to get out? Really important though is that you don't rely on family to help you. They probably won't. And I'd be very reluctant to travel with your grandfather. Be careful MnM24 be very careful. I keep my fingers crossed that you are out of there soon!
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#111 » by hell_razor » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:39 am

Screw your dad imo (not as explicit as that but you get what I mean). if you're over 18 you decide what you want to do in life. I mean I don't know where the hell they have torturing schools but yea, I would leave.
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#112 » by 22haytham22 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:12 am

Man sorry to hear about this. Hope everything works out for you, stuff like this really hits me hard since your freedom is everything in this life.
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#113 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:27 am

Good luck MnM. I would have gone to the embassy already.

Even if you get back to US your family will still want you in an emotional prison. It is scary to flee immediately but I would make plans to do it within a year. You don't need to rely on biology to have a family. There is a much higher number of people who regret staying with abusive relationships than ones who regret leaving
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#114 » by JDR720 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:45 am

I dont know if it would work but the FBI does have a phone number (202) 324-3000 (Washington DC Headquarters)
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#115 » by Slackstring701 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:01 am

I'll be praying for you my friend.

May you find the happiness you deserve.
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OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#116 » by Logander » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:05 am

I somehow stumbled to this thread and have been immersed in it for about an hour. First off just to reiterate a text message isn't sufficient evidence to convict someone of a crime. Secondly if this crime took place over a year ago there is a law preventing charges of being brought up. I really came into this thread thinking you are either the most masterful troll in the world or you really are struggling where you're at.

Given the information you provided I've managed to come up with where you are and let me know if I'm right or wrong. United Arab Emirates at the University of Sharjah. From what I can tell they are an all mens school, their school banned cell phones and the country banned skype as well as having ties/ scholarship programs in the USA.

If that's right you should indeed give us your name and the names of the party's involved and you will have 20 guys on the horn with the United States Embassy. You realize having that many people call as well as you and your friend telling them what's going on will be far more credible than three adults. Look we're all here to help if you want it man I hope you get this situation figured out. If it takes me to call an embassy for someone I don't know I'll do it because what you're going through is not right.
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#117 » by Bavlack26 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:09 am

Quite possibly one of the craziest things I've ever read, just when I think my life is hard... wow. Good luck OP and I wish I could help. If you ever need a place to crash in NY I could help you out for a little
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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#118 » by bape_lovers » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:17 am

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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#119 » by Blast Tyrant » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:20 am

This is pretty gut wrenching stuff to read. In all honesty, don't get in a car with people who have threatened to kidnap you, and put you in this situation in the first place. If I was you, I'd never talk to your family again. Cutting ties to people who sound like complete psychopaths is a lot easier than dealing the bull they're putting you through. Your parents should be deported frankly.

Don't worry about ganja. My god, the US embassy has bigger things to worry about than a spliff you smoked last year. (like deporting your insane parents)

You have no reason to get into that cab on Saturday. Get a cab, and get the **** out of the 3rd world as fast as you can. Never look back. They embassy will get you home, you don't even need to talk to your family. Your parents sound absolutely demented, and should either be institutionalized or deported. They were worried about the American college lifestyle so they sent you to a prison camp? Sounds like some real role models to me... Reading horror stories like this gives me real perspective as to how easy life in a place like Canada or America is. You deserve better than this.

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Re: OT: Sticky Situation 

Post#120 » by Jakay » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:41 am

From the arabic (it sounded like), you must be in an Arabic country, and from the conditions, you must be in a military school. Especially with your aspirations of becoming a military doctor. That's why leaving isn't an option I would wager.

The army is a prison, in a sense. If you want this to be your life, stick around. If not, leave, by whatever means necessary. Military families aren't easy to convince, but it's still not worth it if it simply isn't your path, imo, but it is your life and decision either way.

It sounds like your parents understands that this may not be the way for you, that's more than a lot of people in similar situations get.

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