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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#21 » by THEASSOCIATION » Wed Apr 9, 2014 4:58 pm

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Vertical Limit wrote:He's going to be part of our playoff rotation so get used to it, the guy is a better player than Beasley.

:lol:

Yeah, Rashard is just so valuable, what with his below average 3 point shooting, anemic rebounding and complete lack of ability to do anything else.

And what positive has Beasley has done that all 3 of his teams have yet to figure out? Lebron trusts Rashard over Beasley, that is fact, he has openly talked about Rashard. And want to know why? Because Beasley has huge mental lapses in the game. There's days he is completely focused and there's days he just doesn't get it.

Coaches like Adelman and Gentry (both who have been successful in this league), couldn't figure Beasley out. Spoelstra can't figure him out as well. No one can, the guy provides nothing but negatives on the court.

You guys are still salivating over potential, I heard all about Dorrell "Tracy McGrady" Wright's potential and guess what, it got exhausting waiting for it to come out.

Any coach in the NBA plays Rashard over Beasley if they're in Spoelstra's shoes. And that's not because Rashard is some great talent, but they trust his experience a lot more than Beasley's boneheaded play.


It's like people overlook Beasley whole catalogue of positive performances this year and put Rashard Lewis s*** contributions over him :rofl:

Battier is fully understandable and always will be as he's provided this team with invaluable performances and has come up clutch for this team. There are no problems with riding him to the end. But Rashard has literally done nothing to contribute to this team(including last year) to warrant the opportunities he gets :rofl:
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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#22 » by Vertical Limit » Wed Apr 9, 2014 5:03 pm

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Vertical Limit wrote:
Slot Machine wrote: :lol:

Yeah, Rashard is just so valuable, what with his below average 3 point shooting, anemic rebounding and complete lack of ability to do anything else.

And what positive has Beasley has done that all 3 of his teams have yet to figure out? Lebron trusts Rashard over Beasley, that is fact, he has openly talked about Rashard. And want to know why? Because Beasley has huge mental lapses in the game. There's days he is completely focused and there's days he just doesn't get it.

Coaches like Adelman and Gentry (both who have been successful in this league), couldn't figure Beasley out. Spoelstra can't figure him out as well. No one can, the guy provides nothing but negatives on the court.

You guys are still salivating over potential, I heard all about Dorrell "Tracy McGrady" Wright's potential and guess what, it got exhausting waiting for it to come out.

Any coach in the NBA plays Rashard over Beasley if they're in Spoelstra's shoes. And that's not because Rashard is some great talent, but they trust his experience a lot more than Beasley's boneheaded play.


It's like people overlook Beasley whole catalogue of positive performances this year and put Rashard Lewis s*** contributions over him :rofl:

Battier is fully understandable and always will be as he's provided this team with invaluable performances and has come up clutch for this team. There are no problems with riding him to the end. But Rashard has literally done nothing to contribute to this team(including last year) to warrant the opportunities he gets :rofl:

Why aren't you a coach in the NBA then since you seem to know more than Gentry, Adelman, Spoelstra and even Riley then?
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Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#23 » by MiaFLSurf » Wed Apr 9, 2014 5:15 pm

I mean I don't see the problem. He actually made a great pass to the best player in the game with 5 seconds left. And gave it to him for a dunk!

I would trust that over him trying to lay the ball in.

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Post#24 » by dr3am » Wed Apr 9, 2014 5:59 pm

To be honest, Rashard made a great play. I'm not a fan at all of Lewis playing over Beas but that was a hell of a pass that he made to LeBron. It was the RIGHT basketball play. Props to Rashard for not attempting to squeeze in a layup

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It's funny because Michael Jordan would 100% get this call back in his days :roll:
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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#25 » by heatlespeatles » Wed Apr 9, 2014 7:03 pm

wm3 wrote:To be honest, Rashard made a great play. I'm not a fan at all of Lewis playing over Beas but that was a hell of a pass that he made to LeBron. It was the RIGHT basketball play. Props to Rashard for not attempting to squeeze in a layup

It's not his fault that the NBA zebras allow anybody to get away with contact on the best player in the world. ALL "WRIST" the new Scrub-Plumlee rule on RealGM

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It's funny because Michael Jordan would 100% get this call back in his days :roll:

wow, was just about to post this. I watched this play over and over and I just don't understand how anyone can say this is a "clean block." Its robbery how they are allowed to foul him. Lebron will need to start getting ruthless with this league
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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#26 » by PJTUCKER_BEAST » Wed Apr 9, 2014 7:42 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:
THEASSOCIATION wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:And what positive has Beasley has done that all 3 of his teams have yet to figure out? Lebron trusts Rashard over Beasley, that is fact, he has openly talked about Rashard. And want to know why? Because Beasley has huge mental lapses in the game. There's days he is completely focused and there's days he just doesn't get it.

Coaches like Adelman and Gentry (both who have been successful in this league), couldn't figure Beasley out. Spoelstra can't figure him out as well. No one can, the guy provides nothing but negatives on the court.

You guys are still salivating over potential, I heard all about Dorrell "Tracy McGrady" Wright's potential and guess what, it got exhausting waiting for it to come out.

Any coach in the NBA plays Rashard over Beasley if they're in Spoelstra's shoes. And that's not because Rashard is some great talent, but they trust his experience a lot more than Beasley's boneheaded play.


It's like people overlook Beasley whole catalogue of positive performances this year and put Rashard Lewis s*** contributions over him :rofl:

Battier is fully understandable and always will be as he's provided this team with invaluable performances and has come up clutch for this team. There are no problems with riding him to the end. But Rashard has literally done nothing to contribute to this team(including last year) to warrant the opportunities he gets :rofl:

Why aren't you a coach in the NBA then since you seem to know more than Gentry, Adelman, Spoelstra and even Riley then?


what kind of 2 yr old logic is this...

the conversation is about rashard vs beasley for playing time this yr and who contributes what to the team, not a career outlook

An equally ret@rded rebuttal would be to say why aren't you a coach in the NBA then since you agree with Spoelstra decisions
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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#27 » by MiaFLSurf » Wed Apr 9, 2014 8:07 pm

Bourne85 wrote:Anyone that says Lewis is better than Beasley is just str8 hating.

That or heat fans really are the worst in the league. Never seen such a group of clueless fans in my life.

Oh well, it is what it is. When Lewis is on the floor in the playoffs and we can't seem to score an get eliminated, you guys will be crying "why was Lewis out there!!".

Don't believe me? Wait and see...


Can we ban this troll already?

This post just proves he is NOT a Heat fan.

he comes here to troll - every post is about how wither a) Spo is stupid, b) Beasley needs to play over everyone, or c) hurl insults.

And for what it is worth, Rashard IS better than Beasley. Thats the opinion I have - and apparently the Heat have too.
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Post#28 » by Vertical Limit » Wed Apr 9, 2014 9:01 pm

These NBA 2K14 posters are really living in delusion about Beasley's capabilities.
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Post#29 » by Amorphous Blob » Wed Apr 9, 2014 10:12 pm

As it relates to Beasley would I like to see him play? sure, But the fact that a highly more qualified coaching staff believes that he shouldn't play is enough for me to abandon that train of thought if Spo and the staff think they need Beasley to win the title he will play if they don't we go with what we have.
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Post#30 » by LBJ-ITALY » Wed Apr 9, 2014 10:16 pm

I don't know about Beasly, but but what the hell does Rashad bring to our team?!
1_ he can't shoot.
2_he can't rebound.
3_ he can't defend.
4_ he makes always stupid TO'.
5_ he can,t finish on the rim.
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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#31 » by CablexDeadpool » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:35 am

Amorphous Blob wrote:As it relates to Beasley would I like to see him play? sure, But the fact that a highly more qualified coaching staff believes that he shouldn't play is enough for me to abandon that train of thought if Spo and the staff think they need Beasley to win the title he will play if they don't we go with what we have.


The same staff that thought Mike Bibby should play over Mario Chalmers and it cost the Heat the title. :lol:

Mike Bibby was having the worst playoff performance of all time and he freaking started. :crazy:

That's all you need to know about Spo and the staff when it comes roleplayers.
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Post#32 » by DefenseWins » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:43 am

Spo does this **** all the time

Plays someone, doesn't play them for a long time, then just puts them in crucial possessions and plays them for some meaningful games randomly as the season ends

This happened with Rashard last year and in the playoffs we didn't see Rashard, only when others would rest but he was not an intricate part.

I do NOT know what the deal is with Beasley. He is the healthiest and freshest guy on our roster that can PRODUCE. We just need production, nothing major. It just doesn't make sense now. Beas is in the dog house FOR WHAT? for being our leading scorer in the shortest amount of time... Lol
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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#33 » by Slot Machine » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:32 am

Vertical Limit wrote:
Slot Machine wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:He's going to be part of our playoff rotation so get used to it, the guy is a better player than Beasley.

:lol:

Yeah, Rashard is just so valuable, what with his below average 3 point shooting, anemic rebounding and complete lack of ability to do anything else.

And what positive has Beasley has done that all 3 of his teams have yet to figure out? Lebron trusts Rashard over Beasley, that is fact, he has openly talked about Rashard. And want to know why? Because Beasley has huge mental lapses in the game. There's days he is completely focused and there's days he just doesn't get it.

Coaches like Adelman and Gentry (both who have been successful in this league), couldn't figure Beasley out. Spoelstra can't figure him out as well. No one can, the guy provides nothing but negatives on the court.

You guys are still salivating over potential, I heard all about Dorrell "Tracy McGrady" Wright's potential and guess what, it got exhausting waiting for it to come out.

Any coach in the NBA plays Rashard over Beasley if they're in Spoelstra's shoes. And that's not because Rashard is some great talent, but they trust his experience a lot more than Beasley's boneheaded play.

LeBron compliments all of his teammates, I'm sure I could find him complimenting Beasley, that's neither here nor there.

Beasley has had a great season this year (when he's actually gotten a chance to play). I'm not talking about potential, so stop with the strawman arguments. Beasley is a better player than Rashard Lewis right now by a mile.

Rashard Lewis will be out of the league after this season, it's almost comical how delusional you are. Just for reference:
Per 36 minutes:
Beasley: 18.7 PPG 7.6 RPG 1.7 APG 1.0 SPG 0.8 BPG 2.5 TOV 55 TS% 16.2 PER
Lewis: 9.7 PPG 3.9 RPG 2.0 APG 2.0 SPG 0.3 BPG 1.3 TOV 54 TS% 10.5 PER

So yeah, you want the guy who scores almost 10 PPG less on worse efficiency, can't create his own shot, rebounds like a PG, and has zero athleticism is better than Beasley? I'm not even a fanboy of Beasley or anything but you can't be serious. Don't bring up defense as if Lewis is some great defensive player either. Neither have positive impacts on D.
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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#34 » by Bourne85 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:41 am

Nice stats ^^^

But hey if I say Beasley is better, I get called a troll.

It's not so hard to see, Beasley is superior to Lewis. Lewis had a fabulous career, but that time has come an gone. Beasley in the beginning of the year was on pace for 6th man of the year, AND MIP. That doesn't happen by accident.

Spo an the coaching staff just do not like the guy, it's almost as if they are ALL STARING at him while he is out there, just waiting for him to mess up so they can justify pulling him.

Then like some posters have mentioned, spo let's Cole suck ALL YEAR, make mistake after mistake ALL without consequence, in fact he gets more minutes with every mistake!

Beasley, I watched him here in Minnesota and in Phoenix, the dude CAN BALL. No doubt given 25min he would avg atleast 13 a game. And his defense wasn't that bad in those other clubs, but those clubs weren't playing headless chicken defense.

Some of you guys think he was let go because he wasn't any good, that is FAR from the truth.

Beas had a drug problem and a depression problem. And that's why we got him for cheap.

Spo is making this so hard, this team would literally sleep walk into the finals if spo would just PLAY HIS BEST PLAYERS and play traditional defense, drop this headless chicken bs.
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Re: Bench Rashard Lewis for that play alone. 

Post#35 » by puppa bear » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:28 am

Look, we just need to face it: Spo is great when he's in his comfort zone (especially with respect to playing staff being healthy), but not so much when he isn't. Wade being out so much has given him a chance to try a lot more stuff, but it really has felt like he's just spit-balling ideas, and seeing what sticks. Then Wade comes back and he goes back his comfortable rotations.

FWIW I think that Beasley could still be a huge part of this team, as an offensive part of the second unit.We all know he has limitations, but if Spo is so hard-up on maintaining a consistent second unit, then why not craft it to fit around him? Next year the SG will be different (hopefully we can pick up someone to take starter minutes off Wade), so it could be really balanced: Cole/Wade/Beas/UD/Bird.
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Post#36 » by WWsum » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:44 am

This stat doesn't tell full story as the players are used differently:
Per 36 minutes:
Beasley: 18.7 PPG 7.6 RPG 1.7 APG 1.0 SPG 0.8 BPG 2.5 TOV 55 TS% 16.2 PER
Lewis: 9.7 PPG 3.9 RPG 2.0 APG 2.0 SPG 0.3 BPG 1.3 TOV 54 TS% 10.5 PER

Beasley is the primary scorer when he plays with second unit. He has a usage rate of 25.8% while Lewis has 13.7%
ORtg: Beas: 101 Lewis 104
Per basketball reference

I am not saying Lewis is better than Beasley. But we have to look at a bigger picture. Spo knows what he is doing.
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Post#37 » by SweetTouch » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:09 pm

Lets tell bird man and oden that whenever someone goes to dunk. Go and basically shake his hand.

YOURE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. Give him a high 5 and grab a firm grip of his **** hand
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Post#38 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:17 am

After tonight's game, I'd like to bump this thread.

Rashard should never play over Beasley. He's a scrub, and he cost us the game vs the Nets.
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Post#39 » by Bourne85 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:21 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:After tonight's game, I'd like to bump this thread.

Rashard should never play over Beasley. He's a scrub, and he cost us the game vs the Nets.


Lewis is just too old and slow. In the playoffs that lil corner that he loves to brick open 3s from, all the sudden won't be open anymore.

Beas not only shoots the 3 at a higher clip, he can also put it on the floor an drive, creates his own shots, draws fouls etc. Lewis playing over Beas is literally some form of cruel joke to us fans.

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