2019 Minor Leagues/Prospect Discussion Thread

There There · Post #81 » by **There There** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:29 am

Odd night for Stroman.

Pitch count is fine through five innings at 78.

He's thrown 60% of them for strikes.

Yet he's walked five guys.

On the good side of the ledger, he's got six Ks and 6 groundouts to only one flyout.

Only three singles allowed as well.

edit... likely done now after six... an eleven pitch sixth to get two more Ks and a infield pop up. So his line is now 6 innings, 3 hits, 5 walks and 8 Ks. 89 pitches, 55 for strikes.

All in all, decent outing besides the bizarre walk total ( at least bizarre in the sense that he only threw 14 balls in the other 20 plate appearances that didn't result in a walk )

Post #82 » by **Schad** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:03 am

There There wrote:Odd night for Stroman.

Pitch count is fine through five innings at 78.

He's thrown 60% of them for strikes.

Yet he's walked five guys.

On the good side of the ledger, he's got six Ks and 6 groundouts to only one flyout.

Only three singles allowed as well.

edit... likely done now after six... an eleven pitch sixth to get two more Ks and a infield pop up. So his line is now 6 innings, 3 hits, 5 walks and 8 Ks. 89 pitches, 55 for strikes.

All in all, decent outing besides the bizarre walk total ( at least bizarre in the sense that he only threw 14 balls in the other 20 plate appearances that didn't result in a walk )

...and in a 'speak of the devil' moment, picking up an eleventh-inning loss in that one? Shawn Camp.

There There · Post #83 » by **There There** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:07 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
...and in a 'speak of the devil' moment, picking up an eleventh-inning loss in that one? Shawn Camp.

The game of course that Jenknutz spun his four innings of relief mastery.

Out with the old, in with the new... or something to that effect. I'll take it. Could be worse ways for that first rounder to end.

dagger · Post #84 » by **dagger** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:15 am

By the way, anyone know what;s going on with L.B. Danzler?

Post #85 » by **Schad** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:56 am

dagger wrote:By the way, anyone know what;s going on with L.B. Danzler?

Best I'm aware, he's in extended spring, the victim of a roster crunch. Unfortunately, he's probably waiting on a promotion or injury at 1B/DH to get his chance at full season.

dagger · Post #86 » by **dagger** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:09 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
dagger wrote:By the way, anyone know what;s going on with L.B. Danzler?

Best I'm aware, he's in extended spring, the victim of a roster crunch. Unfortunately, he's probably waiting on a promotion or injury at 1B/DH to get his chance at full season.

Too bad, Lansing is pretty well full up, but only organization guys at 1B/DH at the levels above that.

Post #87 » by **Schad** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:22 am

dagger wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
dagger wrote:By the way, anyone know what;s going on with L.B. Danzler?

Best I'm aware, he's in extended spring, the victim of a roster crunch. Unfortunately, he's probably waiting on a promotion or injury at 1B/DH to get his chance at full season.

Too bad, Lansing is pretty well full up, but only organization guys at 1B/DH at the levels above that.

Yeah, I had thought that they might move him straight to Dunedin. Guess they want to give KC Hobson another year to see whether he can reconcile the high-OBP, low-power 2012 with the horrific-OBP, high-power 2013, but why Matt Newman's worth another peak and Dantzler ain't, I dunno.

dagger · Post #88 » by **dagger** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:07 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
dagger wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
Best I'm aware, he's in extended spring, the victim of a roster crunch. Unfortunately, he's probably waiting on a promotion or injury at 1B/DH to get his chance at full season.

Too bad, Lansing is pretty well full up, but only organization guys at 1B/DH at the levels above that.

Yeah, I had thought that they might move him straight to Dunedin. Guess they want to give KC Hobson another year to see whether he can reconcile the high-OBP, low-power 2012 with the horrific-OBP, high-power 2013, but why Matt Newman's worth another peak and Dantzler ain't, I dunno.

Speaking of Dunedin, the team that was formerly the Jays dullest by a long shot is pound the daylights out of the opposition so far. Early days, of course. Another good day for Dwight Smith, and a host of others. Too bad Derrick Chung isn't five years younger because he's apparently the best defensive catcher in the system.

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There There · Post #89 » by **There There** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:14 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
Yeah, I had thought that they might move him straight to Dunedin. Guess they want to give KC Hobson another year to see whether he can reconcile the high-OBP, low-power 2012 with the horrific-OBP, high-power 2013, but why Matt Newman's worth another peak and Dantzler ain't, I dunno.

Dantzler tweeted back to someone at the end of March that he hadn't been assigned yet as he would be rehabbing something for a couple of weeks.

So he may yet wind up staying there in Dunedin, but hopefully we should find out soon.

I'm with you though, there really doesn't seem to be any good reason why they shouldn't get him in the FSL asap. I would be tremendously disappointed if he is held back in extended because of Newman, but perhaps Smith and Hobson will free up some roster spots sooner rather than later.

There There · Post #90 » by **There There** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:11 am

So, Gose has a .430 OBP, a walk rate of about 16% and a strikeout rate of about 13%.

I'm just gonna go ahead and buy into it for now, common sense and any regard for sample sizes be damned, because it would be really cool if he actually were to have a breakout season of sorts.

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Post #91 » by **Schad** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:54 pm

Norris has gone six scoreless innings, giving up just four hits and a walk against six strikeouts. That makes an 11:1 K:BB on the year so far...fantastic start.

There There · Post #92 » by **There There** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:20 am

Schadenfreude wrote:Norris has gone six scoreless innings, giving up just four hits and a walk against six strikeouts. That makes an 11:1 K:BB on the year so far...fantastic start.

Sounded like he was flying through the first couple of innings as well... Apparently he had a ten pitch second, which included back to back Ks with his curve, and a 7 pitch third.

It's something how much he has seemingly fixed his early command issues.

He was dinged for two doubles, but the first sounded more like a soft fly ball that Knecht dove for and missed and it got by him.

Guerrero may be turning it around somewhat as well... had a homer last night and in his first at bat tonight hit one that hit the top of the wall for a double.

Post #93 » by **Schad** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:28 am

There There wrote:
Sounded like he was flying through the first couple of innings as well... Apparently he had a ten pitch second, which included back to back Ks with his curve, and a 7 pitch third.

It's something how much he has seemingly fixed his early command issues.

He was dinged for two doubles, but the first sounded more like a soft fly ball that Knecht dove for and missed and it got by him.

Guerrero may be turning it around somewhat as well... had a homer last night and in his first at bat tonight hit one that hit the top of the wall for a double.

And if he has the control, well...lefty throwing mid-90s downhill with three off-speed pitches that ought to be fringe-average or better is one hell of a package.

Lateral Quicks · Post #94 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:09 am

I'm just going to go ahead and put Hutch, Sanchez, Stroman and Norris in the 2015 rotation right now.

Dalton Pompey is having a great start in Dunedin. Two more hits tonight and five stolen bases already.

There There · Post #95 » by **There There** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:17 am

Lateral Quicks wrote:
Dalton Pompey is having a great start in Dunedin. Two more hits tonight and five stolen bases already.

He's definitely got break out potential this season... Came on really strong in the second half last season with an almost 1:1 BB/K ratio, a OBP around .400 and he's got some pop in his bat.

The reports on his defense are excellent as well.

Emilio Guerrero is another one to watch on that team... He's had a slow start, but he started to show some real pop in his bat also last season.

Graham's Cracker · Post #96 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:02 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
dagger wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
Best I'm aware, he's in extended spring, the victim of a roster crunch. Unfortunately, he's probably waiting on a promotion or injury at 1B/DH to get his chance at full season.

Too bad, Lansing is pretty well full up, but only organization guys at 1B/DH at the levels above that.

Yeah, I had thought that they might move him straight to Dunedin. Guess they want to give KC Hobson another year to see whether he can reconcile the high-OBP, low-power 2012 with the horrific-OBP, high-power 2013, but why Matt Newman's worth another peak and Dantzler ain't, I dunno.

KC Hobson with his first HR today off a lefthander nonetheless off the venerable Hobbs Johnson. I wish my parents had the foresight to give me a name that predetermined my destiny to become a baseball player.

Post #97 » by **Schad** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:20 pm

Graham's Cracker wrote:KC Hobson with his first HR today off a lefthander nonetheless off the venerable Hobbs Johnson. I wish my parents had the foresight to give me a name that predetermined my destiny to become a baseball player.

And he's another guy who isn't striking out at all...and isn't walking, either. Did the low-minors switch to the Little League mode of having the coaches tossing underhand or something?

Post #98 » by **Schad** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:01 pm

Aaron Sanchez had a somewhat rough outing, particularly in the control department. He's at eight walks in 13.2 IP, good for 5.3 BB/9.

Likewise, Tom Robson's first two starts in Lansing haven't been good, largely because he too cannot find the strike zone. He's walking a shade over one batter per inning at the moment.

There There · Post #99 » by **There There** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:04 pm

Nolin started out with 5Ks through the first two but ended up losing the strikezone and finished up with 7Ks and 5BBs in 5 innings.

Mike Crouse has 6 hits so far with NH, 4 of them being triples. So he seems to be back to making hard contact when he does connect. I've heard the swing is pretty long, but if he can mitigate some of his contact issues with good plate discipline, which he has done so far with six walks in his first 31 plate appearances, he may still be worth keeping an eye on.

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There There · Post #100 » by **There There** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:52 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
And if he has the control, well...lefty throwing mid-90s downhill with three off-speed pitches that ought to be fringe-average or better is one hell of a package.

Chris King had a writeup on him from his start this weekend in BPs Monday 10 pack.

Basically said his velocity was down a couple of ticks, sitting 90-93 and touching 94 once. FB command wasn't there either.

Mentioned his slider tends to be the pitch he gets swinging strikes on, but it was his curve that impressed him the most this weekend... Had it between 74 and 76 with command all game and was able to use it against righties and lefties both to get ahead and as an out pitch.

Said the change was a bit inconsistent, but he mostly kept it down in the zone so hitters weren't able to really square it up.

Overall he was impressed with how he was able to battle against a talented lineup with slightly reduced velocity and lacking FB command.