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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#301 » by JDR720 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:58 am

LamarMatic7 wrote:thank god I am at work and didn't get a chance to see this one. wasn't Al our savior with his scoring? why the bronze hammers for him?

bad defense and he had his typical game and other players stepped up more
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#302 » by catch20two » Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:58 am

LamarMatic7 wrote:thank god I am at work and didn't get a chance to see this one. wasn't Al our savior with his scoring? why the bronze hammers for him?

He watched too many layups and our defense was abysmal except for in the 3rd quarter thanks to MKG. MKG's defense and Ridnour's shots gave us some separation in the 3rd quarter before we almost blew it with the #spacing lineup at the end.
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#303 » by bobcatdynasty » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:21 am

crappin my pants if we play miami and its extremely likely unless OKC does us and miami a huge favor and miami can beat the wiz for us, its not fair for all our hard work to go down the drain by playing miami
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#304 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:13 am

Mondays game with the Heat and Wizards is by far the biggest game in our history that we won't participate in.
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#305 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:19 pm

Josh McRoberts had 4 points & 3 rebounds in 27 minutes last night? Now I understand why Coach K was so adamant about not allowing McRoberts to play the point forward style of play he prefer to play. McRoberts is a much more productive player when he's playing in the trenches than on the perimeter
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#306 » by JDR720 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:27 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Josh McRoberts had 4 points & 3 rebounds in 27 minutes last night? Now I understand why Coach K was so adamant about not allowing McRoberts to play the point forward style of play he prefer to play. McRoberts is a much more productive player when he's playing in the trenches than on the perimeter

He is basically a 6-10 pass first PG, that is why we are better with Zeller starting
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#307 » by catch20two » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:31 pm

I don't know what to make of McBob. He's okay and he's serviceable but he's not consistent and I hate the fact that he doesn't play anything like a PF these days. Then you throw in the fact that Clifford like to throw his #spacing lineup on the floor with McBob camping on the perimeter and then we get killed on the boards and in the paint at the worst time of the game, in the crunch.
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#308 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:02 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:Josh McRoberts had 4 points & 3 rebounds in 27 minutes last night? Now I understand why Coach K was so adamant about not allowing McRoberts to play the point forward style of play he prefer to play. McRoberts is a much more productive player when he's playing in the trenches than on the perimeter

He is basically a 6-10 pass first PG, that is why we are better with Zeller starting


Precisely. McRoberts is currently averaging 5.7 rebounds per 36 minutes. MKG average more rebounds per game than McRoberts in his rather limited minutes. For as talented as McRoberts is as a big that can step out to the perimeter & put the ball on the floor to make things happen, I think I would prefer to see him to play a little more in the paint like he did with the Pacers & after first being acquired by the Bobcats via trade where he wasn't entrusted to play so far away from the basket
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#309 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:14 pm

catch20two wrote:Then you throw in the fact that Clifford like to throw his #spacing lineup on the floor with McBob camping on the perimeter and then we get killed on the boards and in the paint at the worst time of the game, in the crunch.

What's McBob camping on the perimeter (on offense) have to do with us getting killed on the boards and in the paint (I assume, on defense)?

A bit off-topic, but hooray for Zeller - we grab the least offensive rebounds when he hits the bench. I expected Biz or MKG to be the leaders in this category. Although this following stat by extension also shows how Biz has been hitting the boards - we don't really go for offensive rebounds but we do transform into a league average team from one of the worst ones in offensive rebounding percentage when Al hits the bench (thus Biz is on the floor)
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#310 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:20 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:Josh McRoberts had 4 points & 3 rebounds in 27 minutes last night? Now I understand why Coach K was so adamant about not allowing McRoberts to play the point forward style of play he prefer to play. McRoberts is a much more productive player when he's playing in the trenches than on the perimeter

He is basically a 6-10 pass first PG, that is why we are better with Zeller starting


Precisely. McRoberts is currently averaging 5.7 rebounds per 36 minutes. MKG average more rebounds per game than McRoberts in his rather limited minutes. For as talented as McRoberts is as a big that can step out to the perimeter & put the ball on the floor to make things happen, I think I would prefer to see him to play a little more in the paint like he did with the Pacers & after first being acquired by the Bobcats via trade where he wasn't entrusted to play so far away from the basket

I've said before though - statistically McBob doesn't hurt us as far as rebounding goes. We're good when he's on the court and we grab less defensive rebounds when he's off (hats off to Al - we suffer the most on the defensive glass when he's on the bench. I've criticized him previously for grabbing meaningless rebs, so joke's on me). Of course, MKG and Al helps us devour those rebounds when Josh is on the court but one doesn't necessarily need to grab them actually to be a good big. He religiously boxes out his match-up and we've all heard his team-mates praising him for paying attention to detail and being the team's leader on defense as far as communicating is concerned. I've written this before though, I think.... I'm not so sure.

As for offense, I don't know, maybe Clifford prefers Al having the space to go to work with. That necessarily might not be the case but having two traditional bigs can make things messy in today's NBA.
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#311 » by catch20two » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:34 pm

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catch20two wrote:Then you throw in the fact that Clifford like to throw his #spacing lineup on the floor with McBob camping on the perimeter and then we get killed on the boards and in the paint at the worst time of the game, in the crunch.

What's McBob camping on the perimeter (on offense) have to do with us getting killed on the boards and in the paint (I assume, on defense)?

It just mean that we're theoretically playing small ball with the #spacing lineup out there in the 4th since Jefferson is the only above average rebounder we got on the floor and we all know Big Al isn't necessarily a glass cleaner even though he's adequate. McBob has been a below average rebounder this season for all the other good things he's brought occasionally. Every 4th quarter I see us struggling to grab rebounds and defend the paint. If McBob is only gonna grab 3-5 rebounds in 30 minutes then that's a issue.
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#312 » by catch20two » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:46 pm

My real case is about having MKG on the floor in the 4th to help with defense and rebounding but I'm also disappointed in McBob's lack of rebounding.
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#313 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:53 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:He is basically a 6-10 pass first PG, that is why we are better with Zeller starting


Precisely. McRoberts is currently averaging 5.7 rebounds per 36 minutes. MKG average more rebounds per game than McRoberts in his rather limited minutes. For as talented as McRoberts is as a big that can step out to the perimeter & put the ball on the floor to make things happen, I think I would prefer to see him to play a little more in the paint like he did with the Pacers & after first being acquired by the Bobcats via trade where he wasn't entrusted to play so far away from the basket

I've said before though - statistically McBob doesn't hurt us as far as rebounding goes. We're good when he's on the court and we grab less defensive rebounds when he's off (hats off to Al - we suffer the most on the defensive glass when he's on the bench. I've criticized him previously for grabbing meaningless rebs, so joke's on me). Of course, MKG and Al helps us devour those rebounds when Josh is on the court but one doesn't necessarily need to grab them actually to be a good big. He religiously boxes out his match-up and we've all heard his team-mates praising him for paying attention to detail and being the team's leader on defense as far as communicating is concerned. I've written this before though, I think.... I'm not so sure.

As for offense, I don't know, maybe Clifford prefers Al having the space to go to work with. That necessarily might not be the case but having two traditional bigs can make things messy in today's NBA.


I guess it's not a case of McRoberts hurting the team with his significant dropoff in rebounding from his previous seasons in the NBA, but my preference of liking the McRoberts that played with more grit. Beyond the rebounding, I also would like to see him play inside of the arc for often, occasionally diving/cutting to the rim when Jefferson catches the ball to operate in the post
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#314 » by JDR720 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:56 pm

catch20two wrote:My real case is about having MKG on the floor in the 4th to help with defense and rebounding but I'm also disappointed in McBob's lack of rebounding.

MKG should play some PF in the 4th, he can do everything McBob can do besides shoot threes but he can defend and rebound
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#315 » by jakenc » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:00 pm

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catch20two wrote:My real case is about having MKG on the floor in the 4th to help with defense and rebounding but I'm also disappointed in McBob's lack of rebounding.

MKG should play some PF in the 4th, he can do everything McBob can do besides shoot threes but he can defend and rebound

I know what you mean, but against most teams we should probably have MKG glued to their best wing scorer in the fourth.
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#316 » by catch20two » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:11 pm

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catch20two wrote:My real case is about having MKG on the floor in the 4th to help with defense and rebounding but I'm also disappointed in McBob's lack of rebounding.

MKG should play some PF in the 4th, he can do everything McBob can do besides shoot threes but he can defend and rebound

MKG at PF has the same percentage chance as Biz at PF with Clifford and that's 0%.
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Re: GT: Charlotte Vs Philadelphia April 12th 7:00pm 

Post#317 » by JDR720 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:12 pm

jakenc wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
catch20two wrote:My real case is about having MKG on the floor in the 4th to help with defense and rebounding but I'm also disappointed in McBob's lack of rebounding.

MKG should play some PF in the 4th, he can do everything McBob can do besides shoot threes but he can defend and rebound

I know what you mean, but against most teams we should probably have MKG glued to their best wing scorer in the fourth.

true, but we all know it'll be CDR trying to guard lets say LeBron in the 4th while he scores 20pts in 5mins lol

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