The Trade Thread

[ComboGuardCity]

i knew someone would go there. heisenberg said that a PG needs a 3-point shot. i'm simply disproving that. also, now that i'm thinking about it, that rondo guy's pretty good too.

The problem is these guys are/were elite in other aspects of the game, which Rubio is not. Add the fact that he's already torn his ACL, he's not a guy I'm interested.

Its kind of like saying, Jennings plays no defense, but its OK because Steve Nash is still pretty good. Bad logic.

[jakebernat]

The problem is these guys are/were elite in other aspects of the game, which Rubio is not. Add the fact that he's already torn his ACL, he's not a guy I'm interested.

Its kind of like saying, Jennings plays no defense, but its OK because Steve Nash is still pretty good. Bad logic.

except for the fact that rubio is one of the best passing and better defensive point guards in the league, two things people claim are jennings' biggest faults.

[jakebernat]

lowry's going nowhere. rondo's price will be way too high. unless smart falls to us in the draft, and people aren't even convinced with his ability to be a PG, i don't see another point guard who could realistically push jennings out of town. let me know if you do.

[ImHeisenberg]

i knew someone would go there. heisenberg said that a PG needs a 3-point shot. i'm simply disproving that. also, now that i'm thinking about it, that rondo guy's pretty good too.

You misinterpreted me, Jake. I didn't intend to say any PG needs a 3-point shot. Any starting PG for this Pistons team needs an outside shot, due to our current roster make-up.

We have a dearth of shooters, so whomever is running the point (and theoretically the P&R) needs a reliable outside shot.

There have been plenty of great point guards (modern and classic) that didn't have a great outside shot. But, it's all contextual.

[jakebernat]

i knew someone would go there. heisenberg said that a PG needs a 3-point shot. i'm simply disproving that. also, now that i'm thinking about it, that rondo guy's pretty good too.

You misinterpreted me, Jake. I didn't intend to say any PG needs a 3-point shot. Any starting PG for this Pistons team needs an outside shot, due to our current roster make-up.

We have a dearth of shooters, so whomever is running the point (and theoretically the P&R) needs a reliable outside shot.

There have been plenty of great point guards (modern and classic) that didn't have a great outside shot. But, it's all contextual.

it's all monroe's fault. he does nothing wrong, but it's still his fault. like i said, i just have a man crush on rubio and really wanna see him throw half court lobs to drummond and tony mitchell.

[kurtis48239]

Iam not debating jennings vs rubio,but if the guy cant get the wolfs to the playoffs with love and pec,I dont think hes going to have much more luck with dre smith/moose.

the wolves have next to no interior defense, and other than kevin martin, have a very little perimeter scoring. pec and love are a poor fit next to each other as both are poor defenders that play below the rim. simply put, that team is just poorly constructed, and they still managed to play .500 ball in the much tougher western conference despite constant rumors swirling about love's inevitable departure.

you're out of your mind if you don't think rubio could do a better job with our team than jennings. i'll just leave it at that.

Like I said in my earlier post I wasant trying to compare them,but what you described sounds eerily familiar to our team now.Rubio to me isnt that much of an upgrade to jennings and if were going for a pg why not go for one whos better than both and is available in lowry.

[Blkbrd671]

I'm liking the idea of trading #8+Smith for Lee+Barnes. We upgrade in talent, get a young athletic SF that can grow with the kids, who can also shoot and defend. and we lose a year on smiths contract as well as acquire a player who's skill set compliments both Dre and moose (as centers)

[rmfc]

this is seriously shocking to me that you guys wouldn't unanimously prefer rubio over jennings.

Not sure if anyone really did mean that.

Rubio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jennings

[tmorgan]

Rubio would be fantastic with Drummond.... if our 2, 3, and 4 could all hit at a good rate from 15+.

[Pugz]

Rubio would be fantastic with Drummond.... if our 2, 3, and 4 could all hit at a good rate from 15+.

rubio has such an ability to drive and kick so we'd need floor spacers but the duo of rubio and drums would be killer.

[MotownMadness]

I'll take Rubio over Jennings in a heart beat. I would prefer if Jennings never shot the ball more then 5x per game and that's pushing it, So that tells you how bad Jennings offense is. Jennings and Rubio might be comparable in offensive limitations but Rubio is the better offensive player because he doesn't kill his team by continuously hoisting up ill advised shots. I will literally take anyone else besides Jennings at this point.

[Clarity]

Anyone would take Rubio over Jennings but anyone would also take almost anyone over Jennings.

[jakebernat]

Rubio would be fantastic with Drummond.... if our 2, 3, and 4 could all hit at a good rate from 15+.

imagine if we drafted aaron gordon, eventually signed away rubio, and traded moose for help on the perimeter. i can dream can't i?

[jakebernat]

Anyone would take Rubio over Jennings but anyone would also take almost anyone over Jennings.

but rubio could potentially be an option in another year. i get that we all want jennings gone, but there are just very few avenues to add a starting point guard right now.

[paQo the BAWSER]

Anyone would take Rubio over Jennings but anyone would also take almost anyone over Jennings.

I'm spanish and I think Rubio is so overrated, but I prefer him than Jennings, but like my dude say probably I prefer JJ Barea over Jennings

Anyway Rubio is better player than Jennings, only because he's a better defender (he's not great, but he's an ok defender, awful pick n roll defender but not bad in 1 on 1 and very good stealing the ball) and he knows his limitations.

[Clarity]

Anyone would take Rubio over Jennings but anyone would also take almost anyone over Jennings.

but rubio could potentially be an option in another year. i get that we all want jennings gone, but there are just very few avenues to add a starting point guard right now.

I get that & agree to an extent.

[ComboGuardCity]

Anyone would take Rubio over Jennings but anyone would also take almost anyone over Jennings.

but rubio could potentially be an option in another year. i get that we all want jennings gone, but there are just very few avenues to add a starting point guard right now.

2014 and 2015 Point guard U/R free agents:
1. Rondo
2. Shaun Livingston
3. Irving
4. Walker
5. Beverly
6. Dragic
7. Bledsoe
8. Lowry

+ Any players who become available via trade and draft prospects. We don't need to go after Rubio. He's not the only option.

[jakebernat]

Anyone would take Rubio over Jennings but anyone would also take almost anyone over Jennings.

but rubio could potentially be an option in another year. i get that we all want jennings gone, but there are just very few avenues to add a starting point guard right now.

2014 and 2015 Point guard U/R free agents:
1. Rondo
2. Shaun Livingston
3. Irving
4. Walker
5. Beverly
6. Dragic
7. Bledsoe
8. Lowry

+ Any players who become available via trade and draft prospects. We don't need to go after Rubio. He's not the only option.

lol @ irving and bledsoe being "options". they're going no where. might as well throw rondo and dragic in that category too, they're going to come at a lofty price with a deal taking them well into their 30's. toronto loves lowry and lowry loves toronto. coming off their best season in franchise history, you better believe they'll be keeping him. kemba seems happy in charlotte, and they seem happy to have him. and shaun livingston? has it really come to suggesting shaun livingston as our starting PG??

beverly's about the only realistic name you listed. he's a dog on defense and can stretch the floor a bit, but his playmaking skills leave a lot to be desired...

[ComboGuardCity]

lol @ irving and bledsoe being "options". they're going no where. might as well throw rondo and dragic in that category too, they're going to come at a lofty price with a deal taking them well into their 30's. toronto loves lowry and lowry loves toronto. coming off their best season in franchise history, you better believe they'll be keeping him. kemba seems happy in charlotte, and they seem happy to have him. and shaun livingston? has it really come to suggesting shaun livingston as our starting PG??

beverly's about the only realistic name you listed. he's a dog on defense and can stretch the floor a bit, but his playmaking skills leave a lot to be desired...

You're right the sky is falling. Lets ignore the fact that the Suns missed the playoffs and Dragic is the alpha PG in PHX. Lets ignore the numerous reports of Kyrie begging his way out of Cleveland. Lets ignore than Lowry is an unrestricted free agent and money ALWAYS talks. Overpaying for a guy like Rubio who can't finish and can't shoot sounds a like a foretold mistake. He's going to get more money because he's that 15 year old phenom people gushing about nearly a decade ago. And lol at dissing Shaun Livingston. News flash, you can't build a contender with an all star at every position. There's a thing called a salary cap. This isn't NBA 2K.

[BadMofoPimp]

Jennings has the athletic ability to be a solid PG in the NBA, but he just hasn't put it together yet. He needs a stern coach to put him in his place and hold him accountable for his erratic play.