Waiters predictions for 2014-2015 season...

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #1 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:32 am

Now that he finally got a place on this team & is a starter.

what's your prediction on him for the next year? will he finally start getting calls?

Okada · Post #2 » by **Okada** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:07 am

I'm going with 20 PPG, based on a) natural development/improvement as a player, b) probably will get more minutes and c) a seemingly improved relationship with Kyrie and a team that will probably be less dysfunctional next year. I will, however, be surprised if he jumps to All-Star level next year unless the whole Cavs team takes a big leap too.

BossHoggin · Post #3 » by **BossHoggin** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:21 am

Depends on who the Cavs overpay this off season. They may pick up another Jack that Brown wants to play 38 mpg.

Okada · Post #4 » by **Okada** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:59 am

BossHoggin wrote:Depends on who the Cavs overpay this off season. They may pick up another Jack that Brown wants to play 38 mpg.

They made some signings that turned out bad, but I don't think the signings were particularly bad. If that makes sense. I really don't think that that's a realistic issue to worry about.

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #5 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:34 am

yeah we didn't do a josh smith type mistake yet.

SmoothKobra · Post #6 » by **SmoothKobra** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:28 am

I hope Dion gets a bigger role next year. I think 18-20 ppg is possible. With the Cavs though, you never really know.

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #7 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:42 am

Predicting the Cavs win 45 games, Dion Waiters scores 20 ppg on 45% FG, 6th seed in the East.

SmoothKobra · Post #8 » by **SmoothKobra** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:16 am

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:Predicting the Cavs win 45 games, Dion Waiters scores 20 ppg on 45% FG, 6th seed in the East.

I'm going to make that change to my signature...was just a year early i guess

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #9 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:59 am

It's AB's fault. (Bynum/Bennett, pick one)

kiwibrindle · Post #10 » by **kiwibrindle** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:57 am

I predict Dion will have a bigger part in a non existant offense because Mike Brown has no idea what the hell is going on as long as he steps up is defensive effort.
I predict he will have less Tweets because no one cares about Cavs basketball except people stuck in Cleveland
I predict we will still suck
I predct Dan Gilbert will meddle too much again.
I predict that Coach K will get a call from Gilbert for the GM spot who will politely say no thank you. Then Coach Izzo will get a call who will say maybe and after a month say sorry no after he gets a bigger contact at Mich. State

tranjSAIC · Post #11 » by **tranjSAIC** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:03 pm

2nd to 3rd year is when players typically make the hugest leap right?

gflem · Post #12 » by **gflem** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:45 pm

tranjSAIC wrote:2nd to 3rd year is when players typically make the hugest leap right?

Yep, it worked for Kyrie and Tristan didn't it?

CLEbland · Post #13 » by **CLEbland** » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:14 am

I've posted this sentiment before on these boards somewhere, but wanted to see if anyone else agreed.

I really think Dion would strive as a PG (think Westbrook) with a defensive/3pt SG next to him. Of course he could play some minutes as SG too, but I personally think that's where I see Dion being at his best in the NBA eventually.

Of course that'll never happen with Kyrie around, but a refused extension or something similar could leave us in that position.

Okada · Post #14 » by **Okada** » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:25 am

I think the whole Waiters as a PG thing, especially the Waiters over Kyrie as a PG thing, is moronic, but it's a futile argument. It seems to me that it's just people turning flashes into much more than it really is. I don't know how anyone could honestly think that Dion will just start dishing out 8 dimes a game if you moved him to PG, it's such a gigantic leap. He's a good passer but, get real. It's a lot more than that.

Oh, and SGs typically take the leap around age 24. So I don't think we'll see a major Dion leap until his 4th year (if at all).

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #15 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:07 am

hm

wade - 2006 - age 24
kobe - 2002 - age 24
MJ - 1987 - age 24
Harden - 2003 - age 24

Dude, are you some kind of prophet? This is scary accurate.

CLEbland · Post #16 » by **CLEbland** » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:30 pm

Okada wrote:I think the whole Waiters as a PG thing, especially the Waiters over Kyrie as a PG thing, is moronic, but it's a futile argument.

Why is it futile? I think it's something you can easily discuss and provide solid evidence for on either side (especially the side you are arguing). Also, wasn't saying Dion OVER Kyrie at all - Simply if our hand was slightly forced that it's a move worth considering. I mean Kyrie's career assist numbers are below 6/game.

I do agree though it was only some flashes, but with the right compliment in the backcourt I believe he could handle maybe 2/3 of the ball handling.

This is all complete hypothetical BS - Just starting a discussion. Best case is Kyrie and Dion click consistently and step up the D.

kiwibrindle · Post #17 » by **kiwibrindle** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:17 am

God I hope so maybe just a new coach with a brain is all that is needed

Dupp · Post #18 » by **Dupp** » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:41 pm

SmoothKing32 wrote:I hope Dion gets a bigger role next year. I think 18-20 ppg is possible. With the Cavs though, you never really know.

Pretty much how i feel. I'm thinking 18ppg but you never know. Brown and the cavs are so bi-polar with waiters minutes and role its too hard to predict.

Ideal situation and i think he's 18ppg, 3.5 rpg, 4 apg. He's not jumping to all star but he could improve his perception and TS% just by working on his damn free throws. That and finishing at the rim / passing from the paint. He can get there any time and draw 3 defenders he just needs to pass more once he's in there and things will open up.

Also some calls would be nice. Get's less respect than anyone in the nba.

SmoothKobra · Post #19 » by **SmoothKobra** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:18 am

Dupp wrote:
SmoothKing32 wrote:I hope Dion gets a bigger role next year. I think 18-20 ppg is possible. With the Cavs though, you never really know.

Pretty much how i feel. I'm thinking 18ppg but you never know. Brown and the cavs are so bi-polar with waiters minutes and role its too hard to predict.

Ideal situation and i think he's 18ppg, 3.5 rpg, 4 apg. He's not jumping to all star but he could improve his perception and TS% just by working on his damn free throws. That and finishing at the rim / passing from the paint. He can get there any time and draw 3 defenders he just needs to pass more once he's in there and things will open up.

Also some calls would be nice. Get's less respect than anyone in the nba.

I feel like he got more calls that last 1/3rd of the season. He also shot better from the line in that period I think. Dion needs to be at least a consistent 75% at the line to up his game. He also needs to finish at the rim. If he can just do those few things, I think he'll add another 2-4 ppg to his average.

Wizards2Lottery · Post #20 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Tue May 6, 2014 4:32 pm

I don't believe he will make much of an improvement. Waiters IMO is not that good and you cannot be a playoff team with him as a primary piece.

Dion Waiters 14-15 prediction.