Randy Wittman Coach of the Year?

[milellie111]

This reminds me of the Eddie Jordan days. Eddie Jordan was arguably even a worse coach but probably had even more supporters than Wittman does.

I recall a stretch where the Wizards went 24-8 with Eddie Jordan coaching.

With marginal talent EJ coached the Wizards to 40 wins plus 4 straight seasons. Each was a playoff season.

He also coached around many injuries to his key players.

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My biggest gripe with the Eddie Jordan era Wizards was his terrible defense. Wittman i at least committed to defense.

[TGW]

Ha I made the troll mad.

[milellie111]

Ha I made the troll mad.

Why are you mad?

[JWizmentality]

What the what! April fools was more than 2 weeks ago

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[MikeTheKid]

How is relentless optimism trolling?

milellie111 wrote:
Ted is cheap. He wont even get us a legitimate coach. Theres plenty of qualified coaches out there but of course he doesnt want to pay. Randy Whittman is a reject and a loser and has no business leading any NBA franchise (except for the Wizards). Randy Whittman WOULD NOT be coaching or considered as a coach for any other team EXCEPT for the Wizards. From wikipedia "Wittman then served as head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers for two seasons, (1999–2001), compiling a record of 62-102.On December 8, 2008, club owner Glen Taylor fired Wittman after a 4-19 start, asking Kevin McHale to step in." Just because Whitman is a so called "tough guy disciplinarian" doesnt make him a coach. I guarantee you a good legitimate NBA coach can get more and develop vessely, booker and singleton better than someone who is not qualified. But of course, all of this starts from the top and it doesnt seem as if Ted really cares about this team being serious. Seems to me he's just another fat rich guy who was bored and wanted a hobby so he decided to buy a basketball team to play around with.

How about posting a link to the thread where you quoted me from Mr "I would like to make things appear one way"?

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=34553734#p34553734

Notice, that was from a game thread i posted in February 1, 2013 when the Wizards were 11-34 at the time and suffered a sloppy heartbreaking loss to the Memphis Grizzlies in the middle of a 4 game losing streak. Less than 2 months before that i watched this team go on a streak of 1-13!! The 180 degree turnaround and roster change this team has performed this year has ignited a new enthusiam and fire in me and it should do the same for all Wizards fans. Sure, a fan was negative when the team was terrible, that same fan is positive when the team is doing well. But hey, i've already explained this same thing to you in the other thread when you tried to pull the same thing but you insist on residing in ignorance.

I think a real troll is coming into a thread and not adding anything constructive, remaining negative even when the team is doing well, quoting someone but not all of the context to slant peoples viewpoint, and having one of the dumbest most immature user avatar pics on the forum. This describes you TGW.

Im starting to think this guy is the Rodney guy on the mic every game who just got hired this year so that's why he has to suck up and save face to Monumental and TGW has 1 of the best avis on the forum cause its nothing but the truth.

[leswizards]

Its going to Popovich, Thibs or Hornacek just cause Phoenix was not supposed to be where they are this year even though there not going to the POs. They would be a 3 seed in the east. Talent got us to the playoffs not crappy elementary coaching.

The Knicks have more talent than the Wizards, however they aren't going to the playoffs. Woodson is terrible. I think you still have to be a good coach, even with talent.

Okay. How can you claim that the Knicks have more talent than the Wizards when you posted the following in the EG proves doubters wrong thread:

With the exception of perhaps Miami and Indiana, our starting lineup is on par with any other team in the East.

[Higga]

I'd take EJ over Wittless.

I hope Golden State fires Mark Jackson. I'd take him in a second.

We need a young hungry up and comer. No more retread losers.

[Dat2U]

Its going to Popovich, Thibs or Hornacek just cause Phoenix was not supposed to be where they are this year even though there not going to the POs. They would be a 3 seed in the east. Talent got us to the playoffs not crappy elementary coaching.

The Knicks have more talent than the Wizards, however they aren't going to the playoffs. Woodson is terrible. I think you still have to be a good coach, even with talent.

Um no. They have bigger names but that doesn't equate to talent.

Outside of Anthony, Chandler, Prigioni and maybe Hardaway, that roster is a complete disaster.

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

Considering record of the Wizards the past couple of seasons, their oppurtunity to get 44 wins this year and grab the 6th seed, no one can deny the fact that the team is on an upswing. If this team meets either Toronto/Chicago in the first round and advance to the second round (which is not far fetched), would Wittman be considered a candidate for coach of the year? True, he started out with some growing pains but seems to have stabilized into a leader that the players respect and has this team winning.

This is something I would expect from an outsider who sees the Wizards' overall record and only caught bits and pieces of the Wizards during the season to suggest.

Very happy the Wizards are in the playoffs but that doesn't change the fact that the team underachieved with the roster they have. The guys all season long have determined when they'd play like their lives depended on it.

The Wizards are in the playoffs largely because Wall and the guys were driven on pride to make it versus watching round one from a T.V. for yet another year...

Leave that award for a coach that actually has influence on the way his team comes out and plays.

[ptptpt]

Anybody read Zach Lowe's Grantland article on NBA awards? His top three for COY are Pop, Thibs and Hornacek.

http://grantland.com/features/nba-awards-season/

Most telling are his apologies to section

Apologies to: Carlisle, Terry Stotts, Steve Clifford, Dwane Casey, Jason Kidd, Rivers, Dave Joerger, Erik Spoelstra, Frank Vogel.

[Youheardme90]

Its going to Popovich, Thibs or Hornacek just cause Phoenix was not supposed to be where they are this year even though there not going to the POs. They would be a 3 seed in the east. Talent got us to the playoffs not crappy elementary coaching.

Talent ? This board constantly talks about how poorly constructed the roster is, and how we should tank for more talent.

[milellie111]

Its going to Popovich, Thibs or Hornacek just cause Phoenix was not supposed to be where they are this year even though there not going to the POs. They would be a 3 seed in the east. Talent got us to the playoffs not crappy elementary coaching.

The Knicks have more talent than the Wizards, however they aren't going to the playoffs. Woodson is terrible. I think you still have to be a good coach, even with talent.

Okay. How can you claim that the Knicks have more talent than the Wizards when you posted the following in the EG proves doubters wrong thread:

With the exception of perhaps Miami and Indiana, our starting lineup is on par with any other team in the East.

I don't believe there is anything contradictory with my statements. Our starting lineup of Wall, Beal, Ariza, Nene and Gortat is on par with any other team in the East. Even the Knicks with Felton, Shumpert, Anthony, Stoudemire and Chandler. However, the Knicks do have more overall talent when you add in JR Smith and Tim Hardaway Jr off the bench.

[AFM]

"Even the knicks?"
The knicks are terrible.

[milellie111]

Anybody read Zach Lowe's Grantland article on NBA awards? His top three for COY are Pop, Thibs and Hornacek.

http://grantland.com/features/nba-awards-season/

Most telling are his apologies to section

Apologies to: Carlisle, Terry Stotts, Steve Clifford, Dwane Casey, Jason Kidd, Rivers, Dave Joerger, Erik Spoelstra, Frank Vogel.

I could respect Thibs and what he's done with Chicago with Rose out and Deng Gone.

Hornacek, yes very respectable but not making the playoff hurts.

Pops? Well He could be a shoe in every year, I would like it to go to a coach who made a drastic change on the teams success within a year.

[milellie111]

"Even the knicks?"
The knicks are terrible.

True. But is it due to bad coaching or that they lack talent?

[milellie111]

Some of the harsh overractions to this thread may be because some didn't fully understand my question. Rememer, I said If this team meets either Toronto/Chicago in the first round and advance to the second round (which is not far fetched), would Wittman be considered a candidate for coach of the year?

I'm not saying to annoint Wittman now, however if he goes on to have measurable success in the playoffs, should he be viewed not as the clear cut coach of the year but as a possible candidate?

[The Kavorka]

GOOD ONE!

[leswizards]

I don't believe there is anything contradictory with my statements. Our starting lineup of Wall, Beal, Ariza, Nene and Gortat is on par with any other team in the East. Even the Knicks with Felton, Shumpert, Anthony, Stoudemire and Chandler. However, the Knicks do have more overall talent when you add in JR Smith and Tim Hardaway Jr off the bench.

In the EG proves doubters thread, you write about how EG "has ensured the teams depth", and how many impactful players who are on the roster that would be starters or impactful players on other teams roster, yet get limited minutes with the Wizards because of how deep the Wizards. Yet somehow, you still view the Knicks as having more talent that the Wizards. I guess you think the Knicks must be the most talented team in the NBA.

[milellie111]

Not all here despise Wittman it seems:

Wittman haters have to reconcile away and home wins vs Thibodeau. Also, yet another victory over Spoelstra and the Heat.

The top seven or eight players and the coaching are solid when Wall and Nene are playing and reasonably healthy. The coaching IMO is solid.

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[TGW]

I don't believe there is anything contradictory with my statements. Our starting lineup of Wall, Beal, Ariza, Nene and Gortat is on par with any other team in the East. Even the Knicks with Felton, Shumpert, Anthony, Stoudemire and Chandler. However, the Knicks do have more overall talent when you add in JR Smith and Tim Hardaway Jr off the bench.

In the EG proves doubters thread, you write about how EG "has ensured the teams depth", and how many impactful players who are on the roster that would be starters or impactful players on other teams roster, yet get limited minutes with the Wizards because of how deep the Wizards. Yet somehow, you still view the Knicks as having more talent that the Wizards. I guess you think the Knicks must be the most talented team in the NBA.

Trolls normally can't keep their facts straight...that's why they change opinions as the wind blows. But I enjoy the responses to the troll posts.