'14 Draft Thread - Parker Declares. List your top 4

Frank Nova · Post #61 » by **Frank Nova** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:23 pm

I have in my sig:
Wiggins
Parker
Embiid
Exum

But I'm now torn between Exum and Embiid at 3/4.

Can't really go wrong now with any top 4 pick. I worry the most about Embiid. I don't want to be the Suns and take another Alex Len when the T wolves picked some 10 picks later and took the better player in Dieng. Ppl thinking that can't be Embiid vs another big in this class are kidding themselves. And this is no comparison to the players skill levels. This is a comparison to taking a player like Len or Embiid who is a project from day 1 and turns into an even bigger project halfway thru the year vs a player like Dieng who showed in much quicker fashion he will develop faster and probably end up a better player.

We can talk about pros and cons all day but my biggest fear of Embiid was the fact he came into Kansas as a bench player and total question mark. To me that's a huge red flag. He exceeded expectations but as quickly as he did that, he floundered away and hurt his back in the process.

Why is anyone really over confident Embiid becomes even relevant before age 25? Do we have 5 years to wait? No one can sit here and even worry about the same problem with Parker, Wiggins and even Exum to an extent.

BigDoggyStyle · Post #62 » by **BigDoggyStyle** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:26 pm

For now I'm going with:

1. Wiggins
2. Embiid
3. Parker
4. Exum

I'm still waiting to see how Embiid's back checks out. If it's still iffy I'll move Parker ahead of Embiid, and if it checks out Embiid moves to #1.

Swan Vox · Post #63 » by **Swan Vox** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:28 pm

I would also say it shakes out like this...

1. Embiid: Biggest boom / bust potential. Might also be the Tim Duncan-esque player that the Spurs model requires.

2. Wiggins: Potentially most marketable / athletic highlight reel guy.

3. Parker: Probably the safest pick. His floor seems the highest.

4. Exum: Still a fairly big unknown, but we've had good luck with foreign prospects. (Plus we'd give the aussies something to cheer for again!)

LittleRooster · Post #64 » by **LittleRooster** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:30 pm

Swan Vox wrote:How do Jewish folks and Mormons get along? I think Lasry is Jewish. It's no secret Parker is very vocal about his faith. Probably not much of a factor, but something to consider as far as which way the team might go.

As a Jewish person myself I feel ashamed I don't know this answer :lol:

But, considering they would be Parker's boses I can't imagine it being an issue

marques-8 · Post #65 » by **marques-8** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:30 pm

If the Bucks want 1st hand info on Parker, they only have to drive to 12th and Wisconsin Ave. and talk to Coach Wojo.!

mcfromage · Post #66 » by **mcfromage** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:40 pm

Firstly I don't think you could generally describe the relationship between these two faiths, I'm sure its as varied as any. Second, I'm sure Jabari's Mormonism will have no ultimate bearing on whether or not we draft him, just as I imagine Lasry's being Jewish doesn't influence most of his decisions. As was also true I believe of Kohl. It simply is a non-issue Swanny, IMO.

skones · Post #67 » by **skones** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:40 pm

Swan Vox wrote:I would also say that with Lasry & Edens being Knick fans before buying the Bucks...they've formed a pretty good idea about a Carmelo-type player. Not sure whether that would drive them towards or away from Parker if you think they compare favorably.

FWIW I think Melo has the ability to lead a team far deeper than he has. I think his stubbornness and do it myself attitude towards the game are what holds him back. You may see a change in the coming seasons with Jackson involved. It certainly worked for Jordan and Kobe. I think Parker is a very coachable player, and that's the primary difference between the two.

Looks like I'm the only one with:
Embiid
Exum
Parker
Wiggins

zmanishere11 · Post #68 » by **zmanishere11** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:42 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Parker is in.

My top four:

1 - Embiid
2a - Exum
2b - Wiggins
4 - Parker

me too

TroyD92 · Post #69 » by **TroyD92** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:48 pm

I don't claim to know anything about the Mormon faith outside of the South Park episode, but am I safe in assuming that they can take your mission at nearly any point in their life?

White+Purple · Post #70 » by **White+Purple** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:49 pm

Interim results:

Mediocrity · Post #71 » by **Mediocrity** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:49 pm

If you guys drop to 3-4, what are your thoughts on Smart? In my fantasy league I dropped to 4 for our 2014 draft, and am strongly considering Smart. He reminds me a lot of Lowry/Davis. I don't see him in the majority of your guys' lists, so I am wondering what your thoughts are on him. I personally like him better than Exum.

Swan Vox · Post #72 » by **Swan Vox** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:51 pm

mcfromage wrote:Firstly I don't think you could generally describe the relationship between these two faiths, I'm sure its as varied as any. Second, I'm sure Jabari's Mormonism will have no ultimate bearing on whether or not we draft him, just as I imagine Lasry's being Jewish doesn't influence most of his decisions. As was also true I believe of Kohl. It simply is a non-issue Swanny, IMO.

I guess I'm just trying to explore things from every angle. I'm more of a student of human nature than a stats guy. (Although I think stats are useful and should be part of the equation....go science!) We are emotional creatures and sometimes decisions...even (or especially) important ones often get made for irrational reasons. I'm trying to approach this thing like a psychologist would.

Thunder Muscle · Post #73 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:53 pm

Mbah a Moute has probably poisoned Embiid's view of Milwaukee anyway.

Whiteman · Post #74 » by **Whiteman** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:56 pm

Mediocrity wrote:If you guys drop to 3-4, what are your thoughts on Smart? In my fantasy league I dropped to 4 for our 2014 draft, and am strongly considering Smart. He reminds me a lot of Lowry/Davis. I don't see him in the majority of your guys' lists, so I am wondering what your thoughts are on him. I personally like him better than Exum.

Judging by previous draft threads here, most people have him in the 5-7 range, while a few might take him at 4.

braindazer · Post #75 » by **braindazer** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:57 pm

ajb905 wrote:Embiid
Exum
Wiggins
Parker

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This works for me !

emunney · Post #76 » by **emunney** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:59 pm

Jordan Adams back to UCLA.

mlloyd10 · Post #77 » by **mlloyd10** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:00 pm

Wiggins
Exum
Parker
Embiid(Back Issues)

BobbyLight · Post #78 » by **BobbyLight** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:03 pm

I don't follow college b-ball and know nothing about the international scene. For better or worse (probably worse), the people around here drive my opinion on the draft. Except Embiid's back injury scares the hell out of me, I feel like this is Oden/Durant all over again.

Wiggins
Embiid
Exum
Parker

I won't be disappointed if we get Parker, but he's "just" Carmello Anthony to me, meaning we'd need an actual superstar/complete player next to him for him to be worth anything. Kind of like Big Dog needed Allen/Cassell.

I feel like Wiggins can be that all around superstar more so than anyone else in this draft.

step3profit · Post #79 » by **step3profit** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:04 pm

Embiid
Parker
Exum
Wiggins or Smart

Justification: None. I just don't feel sold on Wiggins. But I'm not exactly know for my college basketball watching habits.

DanoMac · Post #80 » by **DanoMac** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:06 pm

Wiggins
Embiid
Parker
Exum

Who's your pick?