2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets (6)

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Series Outcome

Poll ended at Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:01 am

Raps in 4
410
50%
Raps in 5
39
5%
Raps in 6
95
12%
Raps in 7
52
6%
Nets in 4
22
3%
Nets in 5
42
5%
Nets in 6
143
17%
Nets in 7
22
3%
 
Total votes: 825

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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#481 » by b-ball forever » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:10 pm

RandomRaptorfan wrote:Lmao the poll results are 77% pro-raptors...we have to be the best poll-riggers on realgm :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


When Jordansbulls did the poll, even the opposing teams' fans wound up voting against their own team :lol:

It's shocking that 63 peeps voted raps in 6. I mean the few votes for the Nets by Brooklyn fans are understandable, but Raps in 4 is the only answer otherwise.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#482 » by Raps Maniac » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:14 pm

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RandomRaptorfan wrote:Lmao the poll results are 77% pro-raptors...we have to be the best poll-riggers on realgm :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


When Jordansbulls did the poll, even the opposing teams' fans wound up voting against their own team :lol:

It's shocking that 63 peeps voted raps in 6. I mean the few votes for the Nets by Brooklyn fans are understandable, but Raps in 4 is the only answer otherwise.

This is nothing, we go to other team's broads and rig their polls all the time. We even alter NBA.com and NBA fan night polls.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#483 » by Raps Maniac » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:14 pm

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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#484 » by RandomRaptorfan » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:28 pm

Raps Maniac wrote:
b-ball forever wrote:
RandomRaptorfan wrote:Lmao the poll results are 77% pro-raptors...we have to be the best poll-riggers on realgm :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


When Jordansbulls did the poll, even the opposing teams' fans wound up voting against their own team :lol:

It's shocking that 63 peeps voted raps in 6. I mean the few votes for the Nets by Brooklyn fans are understandable, but Raps in 4 is the only answer otherwise.

This is nothing, we go to other team's broads and rig their polls all the time. We even alter NBA.com and NBA fan night polls.


Speaking of which, the NBA.com poll for the Raptors-Nets series needs some work.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#485 » by Effigy » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:37 pm

bonbons wrote:
Effigy wrote:
KingDavid wrote:The Raps have more to lose than the Nets?

The BROOKLYN Nets?

The billionaire owner Mikhail Prokohov's Nets?

The same owner who didn't give a **** about salary caps and basically bought his entire team's Nets?

The same owner who said "we're in win now mode"'s Nets?

The same Nets team that EVERYONE had winning it all's Nets?

The team that has a starting lineup of HOF/Allstars' Nets?

The team that has Deron Williams, Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson, Kevin Garnett, Brook Lopez (out), Andrei Kirlenko, Shaun Livingston, and lord knows who else's Nets?



The Raptor's team with NO playoff experience has more to prove than that Brooklyn Nets team. Sounds goddamn legit bro..


Those projections are half a year old. Everyone saw the awful start Brooklyn got off to and readjusted their expectations. They have a bunch of all-stars and hall of famers, but most aren't in their primes (and arguably their best player, Brook Lopez missed the whole season). I don't think anyone still views the Nets the way they did before the season started. Now it's a team that couldn't get home court advantage in an awful eastern conference. I doubt you'll see those people who anointed them picking them to get to the ECF now.

If the Nets lose the public says: 'I guess they're just too old"

If the Raptors lose the public says: "I guess they were frauds"


what a dumb post. what about torontos projections at the beginning of the year? They were projected like 30 wins. If raptors lose, its because they are young. Where the hell does "Frauds" come from. Brooklyn will be the frauds if they lose. The whole season everyones been saying "Brooklyns built for the playoffs." Nobody has been hyping torontos chances as much as brooklyns. do you even watch basketball?


You're right that the Raptors exceeded the expectations everyone had about them. Expectations have changed now. Now they are expected to win their first round series as the 3 seed, with home court advantage, with the best record in their franchise's history. The casual observer who tunes in for the playoffs and is surprised at how good of a season Toronto had, is going to completely write them off as a 'fluke' or 'fraud' if they don't win their first round series.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#486 » by KingDavid » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:56 pm

Effigy wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
Effigy wrote:
You have more to lose. Everyone from outside doubts your team really belongs there. Most of the 'experts' are going to pick the Nets to upset you guys. You have the pressure of being the favorites and trying to protect home court by winning your first two games.

Let me be clear: I am rooting for the Raptors and I hope they win. But I don't believe they will. Nets in 6.
The Raps have more to lose than the Nets?

The BROOKLYN Nets?

The billionaire owner Mikhail Prokohov's Nets?

The same owner who didn't give a **** about salary caps and basically bought his entire team's Nets?

The same owner who said "we're in win now mode"'s Nets?

The same Nets team that EVERYONE had winning it all's Nets?

The team that has a starting lineup of HOF/Allstars' Nets?

The team that has Deron Williams, Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson, Kevin Garnett, Brook Lopez (out), Andrei Kirlenko, Shaun Livingston, and lord knows who else's Nets?



The Raptor's team with NO playoff experience has more to prove than that Brooklyn Nets team. Sounds goddamn legit bro..


Those projections are half a year old. Everyone saw the awful start Brooklyn got off to and readjusted their expectations. They have a bunch of all-stars and hall of famers, but most aren't in their primes (and arguably their best player, Brook Lopez missed the whole season). I don't think anyone still views the Nets the way they did before the season started. Now it's a team that couldn't get home court advantage in an awful eastern conference. I doubt you'll see those people who anointed them picking them to get to the ECF now.

If the Nets lose the public says: 'I guess they're just too old"

If the Raptors lose the public says: "I guess they were frauds"
First of all, it doesn't matter what the adjusted expectations are. Its like the Lakers dropping the ball after getting D12. There was enourmous pressure on their shoulders and they failed overall as a team because no one expects a team with that kind of personnel to fail so bad.

Second of all, the Raptors have no allstars, no hofers, no playoff experience, and no notable coach either. I dont mean to say this to a RGM vet but youre full of ****. The raps dont win, it doesnt matter. The public will say theyre too young just like okc in 2012, not that theyre frauds. They werent expected to make the playoffs and everyone had them pegged as a lotto team for Wiggins. They blew past those predictions and made 3rd place in the east so now its just to see how far they can go. If the raps lose, they can use this experience and grow in the future since theyre all young. Nets dont win, its a massive disappointment, almost as bad as the Lakers. Theyre in a major market and have been the best team in the nba since the turn of 2014. They also clawed back from shame to making the standings so they have a chance to redeem themselves. Your head is full of pure horse **** if you think the raps have more pressure than the nets. Wake the **** up and use your head. "how far can they go" is the raps biggest question from the public.

Third of all, guess who Vegas has winning this series? Pressure through and through for the nets.

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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#487 » by KingDavid » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:02 pm

Effigy wrote:
bonbons wrote:
Effigy wrote:
Those projections are half a year old. Everyone saw the awful start Brooklyn got off to and readjusted their expectations. They have a bunch of all-stars and hall of famers, but most aren't in their primes (and arguably their best player, Brook Lopez missed the whole season). I don't think anyone still views the Nets the way they did before the season started. Now it's a team that couldn't get home court advantage in an awful eastern conference. I doubt you'll see those people who anointed them picking them to get to the ECF now.

If the Nets lose the public says: 'I guess they're just too old"

If the Raptors lose the public says: "I guess they were frauds"


what a dumb post. what about torontos projections at the beginning of the year? They were projected like 30 wins. If raptors lose, its because they are young. Where the hell does "Frauds" come from. Brooklyn will be the frauds if they lose. The whole season everyones been saying "Brooklyns built for the playoffs." Nobody has been hyping torontos chances as much as brooklyns. do you even watch basketball?


You're right that the Raptors exceeded the expectations everyone had about them. Expectations have changed now. Now they are expected to win their first round series as the 3 seed, with home court advantage, with the best record in their franchise's history. The casual observer who tunes in for the playoffs and is surprised at how good of a season Toronto had, is going to completely write them off as a 'fluke' or 'fraud' if they don't win their first round series.
surely you cannot be serious. No one thinks that way about the raps. Vegas odds say it all.

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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#488 » by Novocaine » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:09 pm

I think the Nets just made their playoff path much more difficult by losing yesterday. Toronto+Miami are much tougher opponents for them than Chicago+Indiana. This should be one of the funniest 1st round series.
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Post#489 » by mademan » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:09 pm

The raps are the youngest team in the PO. If they don't win, they get another year of expierence for Ross/Val/DD..Lowry is still in his prime , and they can pick up a few nice role players in FA and come back better next year.

If the Nets lose in the first round, they.....?
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Post#490 » by DarkXaero » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:11 pm

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Post#491 » by MitchellUK » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:12 pm

Raps in 6. Giving 150% of the intensity and entertainment.

Should be a fun series. Both finished the season pretty strong - Raps went 37-19 after Christmas, Nets went 35-19.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#492 » by Reckless » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:20 pm

This Brooklyn team is weird. They can pull off a sweep of Miami heat but than next game lose to the Orlando Magic.

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Post#493 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:25 pm

Raps in 5 or 6

-Fresh young legs vs. old/tired ones
-TO will dominate the glass
-Lowry will dominate Deron (leading him to get a massive contract of 4/50 this summer)
-TO has an underrated bench that can actually keep pace with BK's
-BK will be overconfident going in, then quickly feel pressure once behind
-BK is not a good road team
-Raps are the better defensive team
-Raps have a nice balance of inside game and 3 point shooting and the Nets don't guard the 3 well

I won't be disappointed when the Nets lose (as I expect them too) but I will be disappointed if the Raptors don't put up much of a fight vs. Miami (Miami in 4 or 5 there) as I feel the Nets could have.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#494 » by sca » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:28 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:Raps in 5 or 6

-Fresh young legs vs. old/tired ones
-TO will dominate the glass
-Lowry will dominate Deron (leading him to get a massive contract of 4/50 this summer)
-TO has an underrated bench that can actually keep pace with BK's
-BK will be overconfident going in, then quickly feel pressure once behind
-BK is not a good road team
-Raps are the better defensive team
-Raps have a nice balance of inside game and 3 point shooting and the Nets don't guard the 3 well

I won't be disappointed when the Nets lose (as I expect them too) but I will be disappointed if the Raptors don't put up much of a fight vs. Miami (Miami in 4 or 5 there) as I feel the Nets could have.

I think even most of the Raptors fans aren't this confident in a Raptors win. All the things you listed can be negated by play-off experience more or less. The Nets are too unpredictable. KG, PP, JJ, Deron, Livingston, Teletovic, AK47, Thornton, AA, Plumlee... Should be a very fun series nonetheless.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#495 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:36 pm

sca wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:Raps in 5 or 6

-Fresh young legs vs. old/tired ones
-TO will dominate the glass
-Lowry will dominate Deron (leading him to get a massive contract of 4/50 this summer)
-TO has an underrated bench that can actually keep pace with BK's
-BK will be overconfident going in, then quickly feel pressure once behind
-BK is not a good road team
-Raps are the better defensive team
-Raps have a nice balance of inside game and 3 point shooting and the Nets don't guard the 3 well

I won't be disappointed when the Nets lose (as I expect them too) but I will be disappointed if the Raptors don't put up much of a fight vs. Miami (Miami in 4 or 5 there) as I feel the Nets could have.

I think even most of the Raptors fans aren't this confident in a Raptors win. All the things you listed can be negated by play-off experience more or less. The Nets are too unpredictable. KG, PP, JJ, Deron, Livingston, Teletovic, AK47, Thornton, AA, Plumlee... Should be a very fun series nonetheless.

How can they all be negated by experience?

All teams have to start somewhere, and I'd rather a young team with a blank slate start against an old team like the Nets. The Nets in 2002 had no playoff experience and made the Finals.

I think the main areas experience will take over will be in end of game situations (if the games are close), games 1 (knowing what to expect) and if it makes this far, game 7.

There is a reason TO wanted BK.
And I'm not sure this "tank" was intentional by the Nets and they wanted TOR.
At least with Chicago they know what to expect. Toronto is an unknown right now and dangerous.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#496 » by Effigy » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:40 pm

KingDavid wrote:First of all, it doesn't matter what the adjusted expectations are. Its like the Lakers dropping the ball after getting D12. There was enourmous pressure on their shoulders and they failed overall as a team because no one expects a team with that kind of personnel to fail so bad.

Second of all, the Raptors have no allstars, no hofers, no playoff experience, and no notable coach either. I dont mean to say this to a RGM vet but youre full of ****. The raps dont win, it doesnt matter. The public will say theyre too young just like okc in 2012, not that theyre frauds. They werent expected to make the playoffs and everyone had them pegged as a lotto team for Wiggins. They blew past those predictions and made 3rd place in the east so now its just to see how far they can go. If the raps lose, they can use this experience and grow in the future since theyre all young. Nets dont win, its a massive disappointment, almost as bad as the Lakers. Theyre in a major market and have been the best team in the nba since the turn of 2014. They also clawed back from shame to making the standings so they have a chance to redeem themselves. Your head is full of pure horse **** if you think the raps have more pressure than the nets. Wake the **** up and use your head. "how far can they go" is the raps biggest question from the public.

Third of all, guess who Vegas has winning this series? Pressure through and through for the nets.

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The Lakers had pressure on them all season, but you really think they had any at all in the playoffs? I don't. Nobody thought they were going to win that series.

OKC didn't have home court advantage when they lost. They were the 8 seed I think. Nobody ever expects the 8 seed to win. If Toronto was the 8th seed I would agree they have no pressure on them, just like I think Atlanta doesn't.

The Raptors had as many all-stars this year as the Nets had. And really everyone knows Lowry got robbed. Sure they have hall of famers, but those hall of famers are way past their primes and didn't even make the all-star game this year. They aren't what they once were by any stretch.

Yes, the Raptors were expected to be crap, and they're not. They have the third best record in the East. But then you see things like Brooklyn intentionally losing to get to face them and it's clear that some do not really think they are as good as their record, and I think there's a lot of pressure on them to prove that they are.

And not to be rude, but the general public isn't thinking 'how far can they go." They're thinking "one and done."
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#497 » by Demari » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:44 pm

the main problem with this matchup is that after game 1 the raptors team might be facing 3-5 years in jail for abuse of the elderly
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#498 » by KingDavid » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:45 pm

Effigy wrote:
KingDavid wrote:First of all, it doesn't matter what the adjusted expectations are. Its like the Lakers dropping the ball after getting D12. There was enourmous pressure on their shoulders and they failed overall as a team because no one expects a team with that kind of personnel to fail so bad.

Second of all, the Raptors have no allstars, no hofers, no playoff experience, and no notable coach either. I dont mean to say this to a RGM vet but youre full of ****. The raps dont win, it doesnt matter. The public will say theyre too young just like okc in 2012, not that theyre frauds. They werent expected to make the playoffs and everyone had them pegged as a lotto team for Wiggins. They blew past those predictions and made 3rd place in the east so now its just to see how far they can go. If the raps lose, they can use this experience and grow in the future since theyre all young. Nets dont win, its a massive disappointment, almost as bad as the Lakers. Theyre in a major market and have been the best team in the nba since the turn of 2014. They also clawed back from shame to making the standings so they have a chance to redeem themselves. Your head is full of pure horse **** if you think the raps have more pressure than the nets. Wake the **** up and use your head. "how far can they go" is the raps biggest question from the public.

Third of all, guess who Vegas has winning this series? Pressure through and through for the nets.

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The Lakers had pressure on them all season, but you really think they had any at all in the playoffs? I don't. Nobody thought they were going to win that series.

OKC didn't have home court advantage when they lost. They were the 8 seed I think. Nobody ever expects the 8 seed to win. If Toronto was the 8th seed I would agree they have no pressure on them, just like I think Atlanta doesn't.

The Raptors had as many all-stars this year as the Nets had. And really everyone knows Lowry got robbed. Sure they have hall of famers, but those hall of famers are way past their primes and didn't even make the all-star game this year. They aren't what they once were by any stretch.

Yes, the Raptors were expected to be crap, and they're not. They have the third best record in the East. But then you see things like Brooklyn intentionally losing to get to face them and it's clear that some do not really think they are as good as their record, and I think there's a lot of pressure on them to prove that they are.

And not to be rude, but the general public isn't thinking 'how far can they go." They're thinking "one and done."
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#499 » by mademan » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:45 pm

Effigy wrote:
KingDavid wrote:First of all, it doesn't matter what the adjusted expectations are. Its like the Lakers dropping the ball after getting D12. There was enourmous pressure on their shoulders and they failed overall as a team because no one expects a team with that kind of personnel to fail so bad.

Second of all, the Raptors have no allstars, no hofers, no playoff experience, and no notable coach either. I dont mean to say this to a RGM vet but youre full of ****. The raps dont win, it doesnt matter. The public will say theyre too young just like okc in 2012, not that theyre frauds. They werent expected to make the playoffs and everyone had them pegged as a lotto team for Wiggins. They blew past those predictions and made 3rd place in the east so now its just to see how far they can go. If the raps lose, they can use this experience and grow in the future since theyre all young. Nets dont win, its a massive disappointment, almost as bad as the Lakers. Theyre in a major market and have been the best team in the nba since the turn of 2014. They also clawed back from shame to making the standings so they have a chance to redeem themselves. Your head is full of pure horse **** if you think the raps have more pressure than the nets. Wake the **** up and use your head. "how far can they go" is the raps biggest question from the public.

Third of all, guess who Vegas has winning this series? Pressure through and through for the nets.

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The Lakers had pressure on them all season, but you really think they had any at all in the playoffs? I don't. Nobody thought they were going to win that series.

OKC didn't have home court advantage when they lost. They were the 8 seed I think. Nobody ever expects the 8 seed to win. If Toronto was the 8th seed I would agree they have no pressure on them, just like I think Atlanta doesn't.

The Raptors had as many all-stars this year as the Nets had. And really everyone knows Lowry got robbed. Sure they have hall of famers, but those hall of famers are way past their primes and didn't even make the all-star game this year. They aren't what they once were by any stretch.

Yes, the Raptors were expected to be crap, and they're not. They have the third best record in the East. But then you see things like Brooklyn intentionally losing to get to face them and it's clear that some do not really think they are as good as their record, and I think there's a lot of pressure on them to prove that they are.

And not to be rude, but the general public isn't thinking 'how far can they go." They're thinking "one and done."


So everyone thinking the Raps are "one and done" somehow puts pressure on them to win? Isn't that the exact opposite of feeling pressure to win?
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#500 » by WhatsaTDot » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:47 pm

Effigy wrote:
KingDavid wrote:First of all, it doesn't matter what the adjusted expectations are. Its like the Lakers dropping the ball after getting D12. There was enourmous pressure on their shoulders and they failed overall as a team because no one expects a team with that kind of personnel to fail so bad.

Second of all, the Raptors have no allstars, no hofers, no playoff experience, and no notable coach either. I dont mean to say this to a RGM vet but youre full of ****. The raps dont win, it doesnt matter. The public will say theyre too young just like okc in 2012, not that theyre frauds. They werent expected to make the playoffs and everyone had them pegged as a lotto team for Wiggins. They blew past those predictions and made 3rd place in the east so now its just to see how far they can go. If the raps lose, they can use this experience and grow in the future since theyre all young. Nets dont win, its a massive disappointment, almost as bad as the Lakers. Theyre in a major market and have been the best team in the nba since the turn of 2014. They also clawed back from shame to making the standings so they have a chance to redeem themselves. Your head is full of pure horse **** if you think the raps have more pressure than the nets. Wake the **** up and use your head. "how far can they go" is the raps biggest question from the public.

Third of all, guess who Vegas has winning this series? Pressure through and through for the nets.

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The Lakers had pressure on them all season, but you really think they had any at all in the playoffs? I don't. Nobody thought they were going to win that series.

OKC didn't have home court advantage when they lost. They were the 8 seed I think. Nobody ever expects the 8 seed to win. If Toronto was the 8th seed I would agree they have no pressure on them, just like I think Atlanta doesn't.

The Raptors had as many all-stars this year as the Nets had. And really everyone knows Lowry got robbed. Sure they have hall of famers, but those hall of famers are way past their primes and didn't even make the all-star game this year. They aren't what they once were by any stretch.

Yes, the Raptors were expected to be crap, and they're not. They have the third best record in the East. But then you see things like Brooklyn intentionally losing to get to face them and it's clear that some do not really think they are as good as their record, and I think there's a lot of pressure on them to prove that they are.

And not to be rude, but the general public isn't thinking 'how far can they go." They're thinking "one and done."


At this point you're just talking out of your ass. How do you know what the general public is thinking? Could very well be, 'Oh they might beat the Nets but the Heat will destroy them.'
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