2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets (6)

[bballcool34]

This is great, nice new rivalry brewing

[wu-massacre]

Nothing embarrassing about pointing out facts. For example last year we got screwed to the point that the league made official apologies to the team. I think it was 4 times? So naturally we've come to expect a biased whistle especially when facing HOFers.

The refs didn't cost us this game but there's nothing wrong with pointing out they had screw ups.

No it was outright embarrassing that even the non bandwagon raptor fans were disgusted. Crying won't help your team win games. The league has apologized to many other teams don't flatter yourself Toronto isn't anything special, So naturally ya'll are coming off as immature babies.

You may be right if it was only Raps fans, if you paid attention to the game and knew what to look for you would have seen the missed calls (on both sides) and if you see them, there's nothing embarrassing about pointing them out. If you don't know how to look for them there are plenty of post-game analysis videos that will break the game down for you (Videos made by non Raps fans). Like I said the refs didn't cost us this game.

It's also funny that every single Raptor fans have been using the same " well out team didn't play good so this won't happen again" excuse....It's like they think the Nets actually played their best basketball when secretly they played like doodoo.

Both teams can play better, except 3 of the Raptors starters were no-shows in game 1.
For the nets, they missed a lot of 3s and KG was meh...

Who would you say had the worst game? Serious question.

It's sports bad calls on both sides happen in every sports in existence like I said this game wasn't anything special. Like I said Raps fans using the poor play needs to stop, Instead actually give credit where it's due and that's the Nets ability to play small/tall ball and play elite defense.

[wu-massacre]

This is great, nice new rivalry brewing

A rivalry isn't brewing this happened in the 2007 series also I don't think any Nets fan actually cares about the Raptors.

[VanDamme]

cold blooooded

You do realize that Masai is a far more accomplished, intelligent GM then your money haemorrhaging, near-sighted, czar, right?

And were you just comparing the Nets to the Spurs? LOL.

When was the last time Masai got outta the first round? Not that Billy King has been good but Masai hasn't exactly had a storied career..

Billy King has been GM for what? 13 years?
Masai hasn't been HM for even half of that and that's how you want to distinguish between the two of them lol

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10708 ... gs-overall

We asked our ESPN Forecast panel to rate every owner, basketball decision-maker and coach from 0 to 10, and we asked the panel to tell us how important each role is.

In particular, we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

From there, we simply calculated the ratings to determine the best and worst front offices in the NBA.

13. Raptors
14. Clippers
15. Nets

This is for the current season.

[bballcool34]

This is great, nice new rivalry brewing

A rivalry isn't brewing this happened in the 2007 series also I don't think any Nets fan actually cares about the Raptors.

Nice old rivalry?

[Froob]

You do realize that Masai is a far more accomplished, intelligent GM then your money haemorrhaging, near-sighted, czar, right?

And were you just comparing the Nets to the Spurs? LOL.

When was the last time Masai got outta the first round? Not that Billy King has been good but Masai hasn't exactly had a storied career..

Billy King has been GM for what? 13 years?
Masai hasn't been HM for even half of that and that's how you want to distinguish between the two of them lol

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10708 ... gs-overall

We asked our ESPN Forecast panel to rate every owner, basketball decision-maker and coach from 0 to 10, and we asked the panel to tell us how important each role is.

In particular, we asked the voters to rate each team's front-office management on its guidance and leadership in terms of how it affects overall on-court success, both in the short and long term.

From there, we simply calculated the ratings to determine the best and worst front offices in the NBA.

13. Raptors
14. Clippers
15. Nets

This is for the current season.

Neither have won anything. King has probably **** the nets future(to the Celtics benefit ) but it's not like Masai is a hall of famer just yet. Looks to have raps on the right track but he isn't far more accomplished to this point.

[VanDamme]

No it was outright embarrassing that even the non bandwagon raptor fans were disgusted. Crying won't help your team win games. The league has apologized to many other teams don't flatter yourself Toronto isn't anything special, So naturally ya'll are coming off as immature babies.

You may be right if it was only Raps fans, if you paid attention to the game and knew what to look for you would have seen the missed calls (on both sides) and if you see them, there's nothing embarrassing about pointing them out. If you don't know how to look for them there are plenty of post-game analysis videos that will break the game down for you (Videos made by non Raps fans). Like I said the refs didn't cost us this game.

It's also funny that every single Raptor fans have been using the same " well out team didn't play good so this won't happen again" excuse....It's like they think the Nets actually played their best basketball when secretly they played like doodoo.[/quote]

Both teams can play better, except 3 of the Raptors starters were no-shows in game 1.
For the nets, they missed a lot of 3s and KG was meh...

Who would you say had the worst game? Serious question.

It's sports bad calls on both sides happen in every sports in existence like I said this game wasn't anything special. Like I said Raps fans using the poor play needs to stop, Instead actually give credit where it's due and that's the Nets ability to play small/tall ball and play elite defense.

Why would we give credit to a team that in your own words "played like doodoo".

[wu-massacre]

You may be right if it was only Raps fans, if you paid attention to the game and knew what to look for you would have seen the missed calls (on both sides) and if you see them, there's nothing embarrassing about pointing them out. If you don't know how to look for them there are plenty of post-game analysis videos that will break the game down for you (Videos made by non Raps fans). Like I said the refs didn't cost us this game.

It's sports bad calls on both sides happen in every sports in existence like I said this game wasn't anything special. Like I said Raps fans using the poor play needs to stop, Instead actually give credit where it's due and that's the Nets ability to play small/tall ball and play elite defense.

Why would we give credit to a team that in your own words "played like doodoo".

Because they easily outplayed the opponent. Here's for all the Raptor fan conspiracy theorists

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 8m
NBA concludes with 18.9 seconds left in Game 1 LAC Chris Paul was fouled by GS Draymond Green & Paul should have been granted 2 free throws.

"BUT TEH NBA IS OUT TO GET US!"

[Duffman100]

Not sure what the arguing is all about. Neither team played well, Brooklyn pulled it out with big shots in the last couple of minutes. Refs weren't that bad, lots of calls both ways.

[VanDamme]

Why would we give credit to a team that in your own words "played like doodoo".

Because they easily outplayed the opponent. Here's for all the Raptor fan conspiracy theorists

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 8m
NBA concludes with 18.9 seconds left in Game 1 LAC Chris Paul was fouled by GS Draymond Green & Paul should have been granted 2 free throws.

"BUT TEH NBA IS OUT TO GET US!"

You have an interesting way of showing that you "don't care about the Raptors"

[Left Side Drive]

I still think this will be anyone's series if Raptors take game 2. I can see us taking one in Brooklyn to split the series.

[canguy20m]

Talentwise the raptors have enough to win, but not with a disinterested T.Ross and D.Derozan. Either way this series will separate the men from the boys, a lot of maturity from Valanciunas and Lowry.

Where is this "disinterested" coming from? It's the most inapt description. You think they were out there wondering what movie to go to that afternoon?

It's more likely that the whole team is crap at that time of day. They were 1-4 in Sunday 1PM home starts this season. Raps is 5 or 6 or 7.

lookup T.Ross stats. since March 30 he had two ok games. You can rave about his defense but it's his offense that the team needs more right now. he's had a lot of mediocre games when not in foul trouble.
checkout T.Ross interview from 2 days ago pre-playoffs. seemed to act like "i'll try but don't expect too much".

He's a very talented player who needs to step up.

[joseph235]

This is great, nice new rivalry brewing

A rivalry isn't brewing this happened in the 2007 series also I don't think any Nets fan actually cares about the Raptors.

Yep, heck most people in New York don't even care about the nets enough for there to be one with any team.

[Bankai]

This is great, nice new rivalry brewing

A rivalry isn't brewing this happened in the 2007 series also I don't think any Nets fan actually cares about the Raptors.

Hard for 10 people to get on the radar.

[60cent]

When we get to Miami, the real competition, we won't be quiet. Don't worry.

When ? You mean if.

People just taking it as a given that the Nets will advance and that they will be healthy throughout the series and the playoffs?

It a WHEN buddy don't get it twisted. If you know basketball you already know what's gonna happen in this series. Nets are the alpha dog.

[60cent]

Raps in 7

- the Nets will not shut down the Raps offense for the whole series. Nets is a terrible defensive team and Raps is a great offensive team.
-Lowry will shut down Deron Williams

Ahahahaha! Believe me, by next next week your guys will be forgotten. On to Miami.

[Courtside]

Talentwise the raptors have enough to win, but not with a disinterested T.Ross and D.Derozan. Either way this series will separate the men from the boys, a lot of maturity from Valanciunas and Lowry.

What a ridiculous choice of words to say these two were "disinterested".

Ross was great in the first couple of minutes, playing great D and forced whoever he was on to give up the ball. He was taken out of the game by two extremely ticky tack fouls - one where KG hip checked him into Williams - and was less effective because of reduced minutes due to foul trouble.

DeRozan had some major stage fright and jitters got the best of him. He had trouble setting down and had a poor game, but that is not because he was disinterested, if anything it was the opposite, trying to overcome nerves and hyper-interest in doing well.

Amir was also not productive, either from playoff jitters or from lingering health issues, or both.

That's 3/5 of the starting 5 who under produced - but to call them disinterested? WTF?


Neither team played all that great. The Nets had some players over-perform to make up for it - as vets are more likely to do this in the playoffs, while the Raptors had some players under perform - more often seem from younger players. These 2 things will balance and cancel themselves out to make for a better series, I just hope the game 1 loss isn't something that tips the 4th game of a 3-3 series in the Nets favor in the end.

[kayliecee]

Talentwise the raptors have enough to win, but not with a disinterested T.Ross and D.Derozan. Either way this series will separate the men from the boys, a lot of maturity from Valanciunas and Lowry.

Where is this "disinterested" coming from? It's the most inapt description. You think they were out there wondering what movie to go to that afternoon?

It's more likely that the whole team is crap at that time of day. They were 1-4 in Sunday 1PM home starts this season. Raps is 5 or 6 or 7.

lookup T.Ross stats. since March 30 he had two ok games. You can rave about his defense but it's his offense that the team needs more right now. he's had a lot of mediocre games when not in foul trouble.
checkout T.Ross interview from 2 days ago pre-playoffs. seemed to act like "i'll try but don't expect too much".

He's a very talented player who needs to step up.

I accept your point of view, but I'm not buying it. Did you see his face after each foul. He seemed really pissed off with himself and disappointed to have to leave the floor. And Derozen? He's probably the most pumped to finally be in the playoffs. They just didn't rise to the challenge.

[wu-massacre]

This is great, nice new rivalry brewing

A rivalry isn't brewing this happened in the 2007 series also I don't think any Nets fan actually cares about the Raptors.

Yep, heck most people in New York don't even care about the nets enough for there to be one with any team.

The same Nets that sell out every game?

This is great, nice new rivalry brewing

A rivalry isn't brewing this happened in the 2007 series also I don't think any Nets fan actually cares about the Raptors.

Hard for 10 people to get on the radar.

Oh you think i'm only talking about the people on realgm? Raptors will soon be forgotten again.

[therealbig3]

What about Livingston? He's our best wing defender, and he was on the bench with foul trouble for ticky tack fouls too. So was Plumlee, who probably played J-Val the best between him, KG, and Blatche.

And over-performing? Deron Williams is a career 20 ppg playoff scorer, him scoring 24 points isn't anything new. Paul Pierce had 15 points on 13 shots. KG was 1-5 from the field and 3-6 from the line for 5 points. He usually makes his open midrange jumpers and FTs...he didn't in that game. The only guy who overperformed for the Nets was Joe Johnson, and it's not like he can't consistently burn the Raptors the way he did...he wasn't hitting jumpers like crazy...he was getting into the paint and abusing smaller defenders, which he'll continue to do the rest of the way, because the Raptors don't have anybody that can guard him in the post.

And as for overperforming players...what about J-Val and Vasquez? Are you expecting 17/18 and 18/8/4 out of them, respectively, for the rest of the series?