Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong

[tontoz]

And let's not forget that Gortat/Ariza can choose to go somewhere else since they are unrestricted.

[MikeTheKid]

Dude there regular season record is 14/30 in the NBA, thats average and there record shows that. I don't want to end up in a situation where we re-sign everyone (Gortat/Ariza+ bench players) and the competition in the east picks up after a very down year this year and were back to mediocrity and capped out for the next 3 seasons.

So I get that you don't want to re-sign either Ariza or Gortat. But, again I ask, If you let both of them walk what's your solution for remaining at least an "average" team and not slipping back to becoming a below average team? Or are you willing to go back to being the 9th, 10th or 11th best team in the east?

Thats a great question DCZ, I'll leave that to our oh so great GM according to Millie

But Kaman still can play if we can sign him at a bargain price for a couple years and maybe if our scouts evaluate some young talent maybe we can find a serviceable role big and allow Webster and Porter to run the 3.

[LyricalRico]

^ Sorry, I tuned out everything after "Kaman"...

[MikeTheKid]

^ Sorry, I tuned out everything after "Kaman"...

Lmbo Kaman though in spot minutes played well this season. He didn't play because 1) D'anDummy is an idiot and 2) Because Kaman won't space out to the 3 pt line

[Nivek]

Kaman has been sub-par for years. This season too.

[Brenice]

First of all other teams are going to be making tangible moves to get better, not just keeping the same players together to maintain the status quo. It is unlikely that the east will continue to be this weak year after year. So even if the team does get better that won't necesarily change their status as an average team.

And while the young guys might get better it is also possible, if not inevitable, that the vets (who carried us to last nights win) will get worse. That is usually what happens when guys get over 30. Nene has already been showing signs of slippage.

One word people are overlooking...CHEMISTRY.

Other teams bringing in rookies and free agents will be behind the chemistry curve. We are building a nucleus.

Stars and teams are aging faster than the Wizards. Jersey, Miami, etc. LeBron can change a team for positive, but he is the only player that is that caliber. Chicago still has backcourt problems. Rose will be a major question mark.

[Brenice]

First of all other teams are going to be making tangible moves to get better, not just keeping the same players together to maintain the status quo. It is unlikely that the east will continue to be this weak year after year. So even if the team does get better that won't necesarily change their status as an average team.

And while the young guys might get better it is also possible, if not inevitable, that the vets (who carried us to last nights win) will get worse. That is usually what happens when guys get over 30. Nene has already been showing signs of slippage.

One word people are overlooking...CHEMISTRY.

Other teams bringing in rookies and free agents will be behind the chemistry curve. We are building a nucleus.

Stars and teams are aging faster than the Wizards. Jersey, Miami, etc. LeBron can change a team for positive, but he is the only player that is that caliber. Chicago still has backcourt problems. Rose will be a major question mark.

[hands11]

Why on earth would he do that ... he is trolling - Troll: a troll is someone who posts a message in the hope of attracting hostile responses, or "flames."

He will continue to do so... and he is doing it in a very clever way.

Yet who is keeping this hostility going? I didn't see Milli chiming in with more of the same.

How about a truce for now. Lets enjoy the playoffs.

And for the love of God TGW. Stop calling for people to get ban.

Too funny, only keep the thread going when it serves your purpose

[hands11]

Game.Set.Match

Can I also add to give this thread a rest after a win. Dude your a moron constantly trolling and looking for responses while most of us are trying to enjoy the win. Get over your thread and give it a rest cause you only post here and your other pointless trolling threads. Give it a playoff rest and come back to it when the season is over. If Ariza and Gortat don't re-sign here Im going to s*** all over this thread in the offseason.

How am I trolling? I am just calling a spade a spade. If the Wizards looked terrible last night, no doubt the "Fire Ernie, Fire Wittman" threads would be in full force. So when something positive happens last night and our roster achieves what it was built to do, why not give credit where it's due?

You continue to post messages in the hope of attracting hostile responses - which you do quite well.

right. Like that's difficult around here.

Look.. Let it go people. We have all offseason to bitch and moan. At least wait until this series is over.

Milli isn't doing anything other don't do. It can't be one side can grind their axe and name call and Millie is called a troll for having an opposing view. That's BS.

How about we pick this up after we enjoy our playoff run.

A truce requires both sides dropping it. Not just one. It requires some olive branch extending.

You'll really want to be dragging this crap around instead of enjoying the playoffs ?

[tontoz]

God forbid we break up the chemistry of a team that finished with the 14th best record in the league. We may not have a choice anyway since Gortat and Ariza are free to leave. Both guys have only 1 chance left to sign a big deal.

[Brenice]

Don't be stuck on this years record. The backcourt is growing up. The team is growing together. If the core comes back next year, the Wizards will have a record better than 14th place. Matter of fact, what is their record this year against teams 1 - 13.

[dckingsfan]

How am I trolling? I am just calling a spade a spade. If the Wizards looked terrible last night, no doubt the "Fire Ernie, Fire Wittman" threads would be in full force. So when something positive happens last night and our roster achieves what it was built to do, why not give credit where it's due?

You continue to post messages in the hope of attracting hostile responses - which you do quite well.

right. Like that's difficult around here.

Look.. Let it go people. We have all offseason to bitch and moan. At least wait until this series is over.

Milli isn't doing anything other don't do. It's can't be one side can grind their axe and name call and Millie is called a troll for having an opposing view. That's BS.

How about we pick this up after we enjoy our playoff run.

A truce requires both sides dropping it. Not just one. It requires some olive branch extending.

You'll really want to be dragging this crap around instead of enjoying the playoffs ?

Sorry hands, I didn't know you and millie were one in the same...

[tontoz]

Don't be stuck on this years record. The backcourt is growing up. The team is growing together. If the core comes back next year, the Wizards will have a record better than 14th place. Matter of fact, what is their record this year against teams 1 - 13.

This year they were 14-25 against teams .500 and above.

Given that they were .500 last year with Wall i don't see a lot of progress. Fortunately Wall played all the games this season. If he had gotten hurt again the team would have tanked again, unlike the Bulls who still won 48 games without their franchise pg.

And lets not forget the Hawks, who made the playoffs without Horford most of the season. They have their draft pick, capspace plus a 2 time All-Star returning from injury.

The Bulls have 2 draft picks, a Euro who might come over, a former MVP returning from injury and cap space.

The Sixers have Noel coming back from injury, two lottery picks in this draft and a boatload of cap space.

Even the Nets have Brook coming back from injury.

The best we can hope for is to stand pat. It is very unlikely that the East will be as much of a pushover as it was this season.

[hands11]

You continue to post messages in the hope of attracting hostile responses - which you do quite well.

right. Like that's difficult around here.

Look.. Let it go people. We have all offseason to bitch and moan. At least wait until this series is over.

Milli isn't doing anything other don't do. It's can't be one side can grind their axe and name call and Millie is called a troll for having an opposing view. That's BS.

How about we pick this up after we enjoy our playoff run.

A truce requires both sides dropping it. Not just one. It requires some olive branch extending.

You'll really want to be dragging this crap around instead of enjoying the playoffs ?

Sorry hands, I didn't know you and millie were one in the same...

Grow up and stop being a DB

[dckingsfan]

right. Like that's difficult around here.

Look.. Let it go people. We have all offseason to bitch and moan. At least wait until this series is over.

Milli isn't doing anything other don't do. It's can't be one side can grind their axe and name call and Millie is called a troll for having an opposing view. That's BS.

How about we pick this up after we enjoy our playoff run.

A truce requires both sides dropping it. Not just one. It requires some olive branch extending.

You'll really want to be dragging this crap around instead of enjoying the playoffs ?

Sorry hands, I didn't know you and millie were one in the same...

Grow up and stop being a DB

Unbelievable

[Illuminaire]

Believe it. Hands is the Orwellian rainbow, all shut up and enjoy the sunshine. You can trust his intentions though, because he's always the first person to admit when he's wrong.

[leswizards]

Yet who is keeping this hostility going? I didn't see Milli chiming in with more of the same.

Really?

There will be plenty of time to rub nose in stinky stuff later.

Because attempting to rub people's nose in the stinky stuff is not more of the same and attempting to keep the hostility going?

[milellie111]

How am I trolling? I am just calling a spade a spade. If the Wizards looked terrible last night, no doubt the "Fire Ernie, Fire Wittman" threads would be in full force. So when something positive happens last night and our roster achieves what it was built to do, why not give credit where it's due?

You continue to post messages in the hope of attracting hostile responses - which you do quite well.

right. Like that's difficult around here.

Look.. Let it go people. We have all offseason to bitch and moan. At least wait until this series is over.

Milli isn't doing anything other don't do. It's can't be one side can grind their axe and name call and Millie is called a troll for having an opposing view. That's BS.

How about we pick this up after we enjoy our playoff run.

A truce requires both sides dropping it. Not just one. It requires some olive branch extending.

You'll really want to be dragging this crap around instead of enjoying the playoffs ?

Thanks hands. But it is becoming apparent. A postive fan is either a "troll" or attempting to attract hostile responses. Seems twisted to me.

[hands11]

You continue to post messages in the hope of attracting hostile responses - which you do quite well.

right. Like that's difficult around here.

Look.. Let it go people. We have all offseason to bitch and moan. At least wait until this series is over.

Milli isn't doing anything other don't do. It's can't be one side can grind their axe and name call and Millie is called a troll for having an opposing view. That's BS.

How about we pick this up after we enjoy our playoff run.

A truce requires both sides dropping it. Not just one. It requires some olive branch extending.

You'll really want to be dragging this crap around instead of enjoying the playoffs ?

Thanks hands. But it is becoming apparent. A positive fan is either a "troll" or attempting to attract hostile responses. Seems twisted to me.

It is twisted. But I now have a working theory after reading Pines post on how to bait posters on other threads.

I think this board has a troll infestation.

It was a ripe audience to troll since the Wizards had been in such bad shape. I think some trolls showed up and mixed in presenting themselves as Wizards fans just to troll the board playing on the genuine Wizards fans who were emotionally vulnerable to it.

There goal is to stomp down any optimism because they want to control the message of negativity so they can keep Wiz fans wallowing in suffrage. They derail any conversation about anything good that is going on by changing it to how to franchise is doomed for failure.

Trolls are a clever, sick, twisted bunch that get off on others suffering.

But like I said to you earlier. Things will play out however they will play out. If the Wizards win this series, there will be more people chiming in the forum. I expect the trolls to rally back with how that still changes nothing because CHI was weak. Then off to IND or ATL and if we do well there, there will be more of the same. Then maybe we face MIA. But even winning that won't be enough because Wade it run down now. So off to the title series. And then what will be the message?

Yeah great. Still can't win a title and now what? They can't grow from here because TA is gone or if we sign him he will eat up all the cap. And Webster is over paid. Plus Nene will get injured next year and Otto was a bust of a pick. The team has no path forward. #sowizards.

Just except the board for what it is right now. There are some good posters here. If they win more, more fans will show up and those troll voices will slowly get drowned out and called out.

As for you wanting to have a positive contribution to the board. Post in an existing thread instead of starting a new one which just give them a new platform to troll the board. Tweak your title from EG is a great GM to something a little more timely like EG has been a good GM or just EG proves Doubter wrong because he hasn't been great. All of that might not be his fault, but that harder prove. If in time they do well enough to say he have because good or very good, that will be obvious so no need to push it right now.

[Ruzious]

Believe it. Hands is the Orwellian rainbow, all shut up and enjoy the sunshine. You can trust his intentions though, because he's always the first person to admit when he's wrong.

Cue coffee spray on computer screen.