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Player of the game, CHI-WAS series, game 1

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Poll ended at Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:39 pm

- Nene
38
90%
- Ariza
2
5%
- Gortat
2
5%
- Miller
0
No votes
- other
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 42

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Re: Player of the game, CHI-WAS series, game 1 

Post#21 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:01 am

milellie111 wrote:Nene no question

my God, your sig is pathetic
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Re: Player of the game, CHI-WAS series, game 1 

Post#22 » by Nivek » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:06 am

nuposse04 wrote:
Nivek wrote:Here are the victorious Wizards rated by PPA (average = 100, higher is better)

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Trevor Ariza    235
Nene Hilario    200
Andre Miller    153
Marcin Gortat   146
John Wall       83
Bradley Beal    80
Trevor Booker   50
Garrett Temple  0
Martell Webster -41
Drew Gooden     -183
Al Harrington   -263


Great googly moogly at uncle Al and Uncle Drew. Yikes.


Well, tiny sample size, you know. Even tinier with those guys -- Gooden played 2:32 and Harrington played 1:43. With so little playing time, whatever they did (or didn't do) gets enlarged.

Wall and Beal couldn't buy jumpers yesterday, but they produced well in other facets I thought. How heavily does PPA weight shooting efficiency? Should we be encouraged or discouraged regarding Beal/Wall being below 100?


In my analysis, PPA weighs shooting efficiency exactly the right amount. :D

I agree that Wall and Beal contributed nicely in other areas of the game, which helped compensate for their poor shooting.

Encouraged or discouraged? Neither really. Not good games happen. For Beal, this one wasn't particularly out of the ordinary -- his PPA for the season was 96. For Wall, his season PPA was 139.
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Re: Player of the game, CHI-WAS series, game 1 

Post#23 » by dangermouse » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:31 am

Nene, of course.

Am i the only one who thought Beal played pretty good in his first playoff game? Not great or even good by any measure with all the rim clankers, but he was aggressive and drove to the rim a few times, hit all his free throws.... and he got 7 assists and a nice block. I thought he played OK.

Wall on the other hand needs to step up.
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Re: Player of the game, CHI-WAS series, game 1 

Post#24 » by MOrgil » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:03 am

I would give it to Nene. His scoring kept us in the game when we needed points the most.
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Re: Player of the game, CHI-WAS series, game 1 

Post#25 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:25 pm

dangermouse wrote:Nene, of course.

Am i the only one who thought Beal played pretty good in his first playoff game? Not great or even good by any measure with all the rim clankers, but he was aggressive and drove to the rim a few times, hit all his free throws.... and he got 7 assists and a nice block. I thought he played OK.

Wall on the other hand needs to step up.


I'm not saying Beal played awful (probably average) but to say that Wall (who was in his first playoff game too) needs to step up while Brad was fine is kind of perplexing. For the game:

Wall: 35 min. 16 points (4-14 fg; 0-1 3ptfg; 8-10 ft) 6 assists 6 rebounds 2 steals 1 block 3 TOs +11
Beal: 42 min. 13 points (3-11 fg; 0-2 3ptfg; 7-7 ft) 7 assists 2 rebounds 0 steals 1 block 0 TOs +11

I think it's safe to say both had pretty similar games. If both would have shot even average most of us would have few complaints about their playoff debuts. They combined for 13 assists and only 3 TOs, both played pretty good defense, and got to the line where they went 15-17 while the rest of the team went 11-18. I expect to see one, if not both, player(s) come up big tonight (conjecture). It'll be tought because you know Chicago is going to bring it but these two can really step up for us to help weather the storm.
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Re: Player of the game, CHI-WAS series, game 1 

Post#26 » by Kanyewest » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:42 pm

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
dangermouse wrote:Nene, of course.

Am i the only one who thought Beal played pretty good in his first playoff game? Not great or even good by any measure with all the rim clankers, but he was aggressive and drove to the rim a few times, hit all his free throws.... and he got 7 assists and a nice block. I thought he played OK.

Wall on the other hand needs to step up.


I'm not saying Beal played awful (probably average) but to say that Wall (who was in his first playoff game too) needs to step up while Brad was fine is kind of perplexing. For the game:

Wall: 35 min. 16 points (4-14 fg; 0-1 3ptfg; 8-10 ft) 6 assists 6 rebounds 2 steals 1 block 3 TOs +11
Beal: 42 min. 13 points (3-11 fg; 0-2 3ptfg; 7-7 ft) 7 assists 2 rebounds 0 steals 1 block 0 TOs +11

I think it's safe to say both had pretty similar games. If both would have shot even average most of us would have few complaints about their playoff debuts. They combined for 13 assists and only 3 TOs, both played pretty good defense, and got to the line where they went 15-17 while the rest of the team went 11-18. I expect to see one, if not both, player(s) come up big tonight (conjecture). It'll be tought because you know Chicago is going to bring it but these two can really step up for us to help weather the storm.



I agree that they had similar game performances, but Beal was slightly better. Wall had 3 more turnovers than Beal (funny that you said that they combined for 3 turnovers!). Beal had 7 assists, 1 more than Wall and he is the team's shooting guard. Wall did grab more rebounds and steals. Although I'm curious if Wall's gambling hurt the Wizards defense when they gave up 56 points in the first half.

I agree that one of the two should have a better game. Probably need both if Nene or Ariza don't play as well tonight.
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Re: Player of the game, CHI-WAS series, game 1 

Post#27 » by dangermouse » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:00 pm

We can win with Beal coasting a bit like that. We tend to win a lot easier when Wall steps up. Why is it perplexing that I want our star to improve to the level he has shown he can play at all year? Beal is more of a glue guy at this point, a role player.
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