Phil Jackson w/ Media

makeitstop · Post #221 » by **makeitstop** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:32 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:Wow Stephen A and Ruocco getting mad when a caller called them out for stressing over small words. Phil says that Dolan has been true to his word yet Stephen A and the other buffoon still don't believe Phil Is telling the truth. Stephen A told the caller "you're going to tell us how to do our show. Chill out bro"

When Stephen A gets called out or made look stupid he gets defensive and doesn't have a good comeback.

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I resent that they're essentially calling Jax a liar right now.

This whole station (with the Daily News' help) is going after Phil at this point. It's surreal.

Rasho Brezec · Post #222 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:32 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
Capn'O wrote:I don't think Mr. Jackson is pushing Melo out. I think he is challenging him. If he's up for this challenge, he'll be here.

This is Phil's litmus test for Melo.

The first one, anyway.

Also the last one if he fails it.

Sprewell4Three · Post #223 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:34 pm

makeitstop wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:Wow Stephen A and Ruocco getting mad when a caller called them out for stressing over small words. Phil says that Dolan has been true to his word yet Stephen A and the other buffoon still don't believe Phil Is telling the truth. Stephen A told the caller "you're going to tell us how to do our show. Chill out bro"

When Stephen A gets called out or made look stupid he gets defensive and doesn't have a good comeback.

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I resent that they're essentially calling Jax a liar right now.

This whole station (with the Daily News' help) is going after Phil at this point. It's surreal.

They're agenda is always to go against the status quo. And make the situation worse than it is. Phil says Dolan has been true to his word yet this radio station is questioning that. However they have no problem believing everything their media buddy Frank Isola has to say.

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Post #224 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:35 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:This is Phil's litmus test for Melo.

The first one, anyway.

Also the last one if he fails it.

Indeed.

Post #225 » by **GONYK** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:35 pm

Abe_505 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Abe_505 wrote:
Well I think the "pushing" comes into play if whether or not you think Melo responds well to this type of public challenge in the media. Usually when Melo is called out by someone in the media.. i.e. when Woody spoke about his conditioning or when Phil talked about his sticky hands he doesn't agree with what's been said.

If this kind of talk causes him to leave then we are fortunate

Me personally.. a labeled "melo-hater" by the youngins .. I don't think Melo just reads what Phil said in todays presser and is exactly thrilled with how it went down. The majority of NBA players.. I would say 95% of them don't like to be talked about in the media and 100% of them don't like to be criticized in the media... because now he has to answer questions if anyone runs into him in Aruba or the Bahamas or whatever beach he and the family are sunning at.

If anyone understands that, it is Phil. As a coach, he was very cognizant about what affected the lives of players off the court.

I agree with the notion that he's trying to throw Melo off and challenge him. I don't think he's necessarily pushing him out the door though.

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Post #226 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:38 pm

Having Mr. Jackson as team president is a lot of fun.

Rasho Brezec · Post #227 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:39 pm

This is nothing new, though, Phil's been trolling his players in the media all the time.

makeitstop · Post #228 » by **makeitstop** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:41 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
makeitstop wrote:I resent that they're essentially calling Jax a liar right now.

This whole station (with the Daily News' help) is going after Phil at this point. It's surreal.

They're agenda is always to go against the status quo. And make the situation worse than it is. Phil says Dolan has been true to his word yet this radio station is questioning that. However they have no problem believing everything their media buddy Frank Isola has to say.

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Excellent point. They'd rather believe Isola's questionable anonymous source than the words coming right out of Jackson's mouth.

ibraheim718 · Post #229 » by **ibraheim718** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:44 pm

duetta wrote:
Abe_505 wrote:Me personally.. a labeled "melo-hater" by the youngins ...

They should've been around when you and I first went at it, when the trade went down. You were anything but a hater.

I know. I gave Melo his chance to validate my words.. but he didn't. I'm not going to give my benefit of the doubt out to a stranger more than one time. I never expected a 37 win season though. That was pretty bad.

poeman · Post #230 » by **poeman** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:44 pm

We have Phil Jackson...Man are we fortunate.

Jay10 · Post #231 » by **Jay10** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:45 pm

Michael Kay is going to start his show at 3pm on the same topic, and Dave Rothenberg will do the same at 7pm tonight.

bklynstoops · Post #232 » by **bklynstoops** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:45 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
makeitstop wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:Wow Stephen A and Ruocco getting mad when a caller called them out for stressing over small words. Phil says that Dolan has been true to his word yet Stephen A and the other buffoon still don't believe Phil Is telling the truth. Stephen A told the caller "you're going to tell us how to do our show. Chill out bro"

When Stephen A gets called out or made look stupid he gets defensive and doesn't have a good comeback.

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I resent that they're essentially calling Jax a liar right now.

This whole station (with the Daily News' help) is going after Phil at this point. It's surreal.

They're agenda is always to go against the status quo. And make the situation worse than it is. Phil says Dolan has been true to his word yet this radio station is questioning that. However they have no problem believing everything their media buddy Frank Isola has to say.

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SAS is probably not happy Woody was sent packing rather unceremoniously. He's probably also not thrilled with Phil drawing such a hard line with Melo. And CAA, isn't he repped by them?

FemaleDogPlease · Post #233 » by **FemaleDogPlease** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:45 pm

Jackson wants Carmelo to take less when he is making 12 million a year. That conversation won't go well.

Lord Commander · Post #234 » by **Lord Commander** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:47 pm

FemaleDogPlease wrote:Jackson wants Carmelo to take less when he is making 12 million a year. That conversation won't go well.

That conversation already happened. Where've you been?

poeman · Post #235 » by **poeman** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:48 pm

FemaleDogPlease wrote:Jackson wants Carmelo to take less when he is making 12 million a year. That conversation won't go well.

Phil Jackson > Carmelo Anthony

Deal with it.

Post #236 » by **kane2021** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:48 pm

Carmelo is getting awful advice if he opts out and is going to regret it. I really think carmelo is in middle of something larger. I think his agency sold him on the idea of opting out. And its because his agency is no longer calling shots for Dolan when it comes to their clients.

And there is no pre arranged agreement between Jackson and carmelo to take a specific lesser contact. If there was it would be fully understood that this needs to wait a year. And 25 million to be a part of a redirection is well worth it.

Carmelo is going to be forced to choose between his agency and the Knicks. His agency ain't letting him take less, long term, because we might do something next year. That's just awful advice. Plus carmelo himself said he don't want to wait.

Carmelo is opting out to leave. He might not even know it yet. It makes no sense. Its bad financial advice. Bad career advice. Caa would be fast to tell him this is a bad move. So it must be their idea. They are using him because they are mad they are not running the Knicks anymore.

ibraheim718 · Post #237 » by **ibraheim718** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:49 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:This is nothing new, though, Phil's been trolling his players in the media all the time.

Yeah.. this is what he does. And not everyone responds to it positively.

Knicksman780 · Post #238 » by **Knicksman780** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:50 pm

kane2021 wrote:Carmelo is getting awful advice if he opts out and is going to regret it. I really think carmelo is in middle of something larger. I think his agency sold him on the idea of opting out. And its because his agency is no longer calling shots for Dolan when it comes to their clients.

And there is no pre arranged agreement between Jackson and carmelo to take a specific lesser contact. If there was it would be fully understood that this needs to wait a year. And 25 million to be a part of a redirection is well worth it.

Carmelo is going to be forced to choose between his agency and the Knicks. His agency ain't letting him take less, long term, because we might do something next year. That's just awful advice. Plus carmelo himself said he don't want to wait.

Carmelo is opting out to leave. He might not even know it yet. It makes no sense. Its bad financial advice. Bad career advice. Caa would be fast to tell him this is a bad move. So it must be their idea. They are using him because they are mad they are not running the Knicks anymore.

You, sir, must own a great pair of underwear

Rasho Brezec · Post #239 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:54 pm

FemaleDogPlease wrote:Jackson wants Carmelo to take less when he is making 12 million a year. That conversation won't go well.

Phil is getting paid 1M for each of the rings he has with a hometown discount of 2 for 1 as a player with the Knicks.

What's Melo's excuse?

FemaleDogPlease · Post #240 » by **FemaleDogPlease** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:54 pm

ToHoleWithSoul wrote:
FemaleDogPlease wrote:Jackson wants Carmelo to take less when he is making 12 million a year. That conversation won't go well.

That conversation already happened. Where've you been?

I'm not going to argue with you. Carmelo Anthony will not take a huge pay cut to stay on the Knicks. Team is very limited talent wise.

Taking less money to play on Houston would be a better option. Playing with a young star SG will add years to Carmelo career. That is fact. Don't forget Carmelo Anthony played with Iverson. I'm pretty sure he can deal with Harden who was a better facilitator than Westbrook in OKC.

Playing chicken with Carmelo through the media is not a good look for Phil.