payitforward wrote:Sorry, nuposse, complete BS to me. You might want to take another look at what Booker did last night, for example, and then re-think his utility. Look at numbers, then watch the 4th quarter one more time.
I don't even know what "glorified hustle players" are. If a guy gets a lot of offensive boards is he a "hustle" player? Would those boards help more if someone else got them? Not to mention that I'm betting you haven't seen enough minutes of most of those guys to have any idea whatever what kind of players they are.
Sounds like I hit a nerve :/ , for the record, I mostly am in line with w/e Nivek promotes because his stats do seem predictive and generally I think advance stats are the way to go in evaluating players at a superficial level. My issue with the majority of the players on that list (who I have watched ty very much, well except leur and Whitey but they're buried on benches) is that you can't run offense for them, and if their offense is predicated on other players missing shots (Offensive rebounding) then it isn't a guarantee that there energy will serve the same value as it may in the RS because to be honest, every team in the post season plays with more energy and discipline. I would absolutely agree that the point they get off offensive rebounds matter, but my question is it reasonable to assume that those opportunities will be just as plentiful against quality playoff opposition? I'm legitimately curious is there any evidence that suggests that offensive rebounding opportunities as just as plentiful as they are in the regular season...if they are then the rest of my response doesn't matter and I'll happily eat crow
My question, outside of patterson(who I like cause of his floor spacing and wanted for some time now
) on that list, could we actually expect any of those players to go do what Nene has currently in the playoffs against a team like the Bulls? Blair was worthless in game 1, kostas useless in both game 1&2 and Plumlee hasn't torn it up either. I'm a Booker fan but unless his midrange J is on he's a wildcard every night. I mean in game 1 I liked his energy in battling with Taj but he certainly didn't produce many points on his own (although I do think he had a positive +/- differential, so I suppose that is something). Game two was far more enjoyable
I'm not a fan of Nene's contract or his injury history, but I have a hard time understanding how Nene doesn't have value in the post season (cause I assume that is what we're debating here, which 4/5 could we get moving forward that could pay dividends down the line as we try to become a more competitive playoff team). I'm not an EG fan and I know your vitriol towards players he's moved assets for is probably something we have in common, but Nene is paying dividends for us right now because he's a legit option in the post and helps facilitate the offense... would really expect analogous production if we swapped Nene for Blair? Can you run offense through Blair? His advance stats are pretty but since you claim to be a better expert on his game, provide some context for me, what facet of his game specifically would be something the Bulls could not handle at all (like they haven't been able to with Nene).
