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finally got the time to watch the Bad Boys documentary. great doc, it did them justice. a few random thoughts though:
I guess it ultimately doesn't matter but why didn't the Pistons protect Rick Mahorn and leave James Edwards available for the expansion draft in '89? there's a small chance nobody picks the veteran up and even if they do, I'd rather go with the young guy whose style of play is what the team is about. I know that Edwards still put in a few good years but it seems a bit of risky move that could have messed with the team's chemistry.
Damn, Adrian Dantley was as enigmatic and prideful as he's always been. You could see that the trade still bothers him a lot. You could feel his animosity for Isiah with the way he was certain that Isiah was the one to pull the strings. Those were the juiciest quotes of all the film, props to the film-makers for getting that stuff. Aguirre's comment that he was a better player than Dantley, period, was the icing on the cake.
I will look into this a bit better but it's funny how even in the doc they touch upon the '88 ECF when the Bad Boys finally beat the Celtics and a few Boston players left their bench before the final buzzer of the last game. Nobody had a trouble with that but the 91 Pistons walk-off was widely considered as such an unclassy move.
I guess it ultimately doesn't matter but why didn't the Pistons protect Rick Mahorn and leave James Edwards available for the expansion draft in '89? there's a small chance nobody picks the veteran up and even if they do, I'd rather go with the young guy whose style of play is what the team is about. I know that Edwards still put in a few good years but it seems a bit of risky move that could have messed with the team's chemistry.
Damn, Adrian Dantley was as enigmatic and prideful as he's always been. You could see that the trade still bothers him a lot. You could feel his animosity for Isiah with the way he was certain that Isiah was the one to pull the strings. Those were the juiciest quotes of all the film, props to the film-makers for getting that stuff. Aguirre's comment that he was a better player than Dantley, period, was the icing on the cake.
I will look into this a bit better but it's funny how even in the doc they touch upon the '88 ECF when the Bad Boys finally beat the Celtics and a few Boston players left their bench before the final buzzer of the last game. Nobody had a trouble with that but the 91 Pistons walk-off was widely considered as such an unclassy move.

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LamarMatic7 wrote:finally got the time to watch the Bad Boys documentary. great doc, it did them justice. a few random thoughts though:
I guess it ultimately doesn't matter but why didn't the Pistons protect Rick Mahorn and leave James Edwards available for the expansion draft in '89? there's a small chance nobody picks the veteran up and even if they do, I'd rather go with the young guy whose style of play is what the team is about. I know that Edwards still put in a few good years but it seems a bit of risky move that could have messed with the team's chemistry.
Damn, Adrian Dantley was as enigmatic and prideful as he's always been. You could see that the trade still bothers him a lot. You could feel his animosity for Isiah with the way he was certain that Isiah was the one to pull the strings. Those were the juiciest quotes of all the film, props to the film-makers for getting that stuff. Aguirre's comment that he was a better player than Dantley, period, was the icing on the cake.
I will look into this a bit better but it's funny how even in the doc they touch upon the '88 ECF when the Bad Boys finally beat the Celtics and a few Boston players left their bench before the final buzzer of the last game. Nobody had a trouble with that but the 91 Pistons walk-off was widely considered as such an unclassy move.
I guess it ultimately doesn't matter but why didn't the Pistons protect Rick Mahorn and leave James Edwards available for the expansion draft in '89
Lol. I wondered that as well. As far as a few Celtic players walking off I think it was a bigger deal for Detroit because Isiah was trying (maybe not, I dont know) to hide his face like he was ashamed, and he was the one behind it. Either way its pathetic on the Pistons part to walk off like that. The look on Jordans face was priceless. He was literally like "what in the frig"?
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Liver_Pooty wrote:The look on Jordans face was priceless. He was literally like "what in the frig"?
with a little bit of a "yeah, walk off you, ****, you know I just beat you" smile there as well.

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oh and another thing I loved - James Worthy telling us how Rodman constantly grabbed his ass to irritate him in the '89 Finals Game 3, then a cut to Rodman simply saying "uhh.. I think Mahorn taught me that."
just the thought that Laimbeer and Mahorn would have such ridiculous tricks that they could advise younger players to use.. haha, it's just amazing.
just the thought that Laimbeer and Mahorn would have such ridiculous tricks that they could advise younger players to use.. haha, it's just amazing.

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Follow-up on the documentary - Dantley went on a Detroit radio show and criticized Isiah:
Called Zeke a con man;
Said he didn't watch the documentary, "you think I’m gonna listen to Isiah talk?";
Admitted that he's still angry about the trade acknowledging that 25 years have gone by since then;
Claimed that everybody loved him on the team besides Isiah (my own side-note - he certainly was a veteran figure on the team and had the nickname - "The Teacher". I remember reading that a torn up Salley even cried after the trade);
and most ridiculously claimed that if they had won the 88 Finals, he wouldn't have won the MVP simply because Isiah wouldn't have let him. dude... we're talking about the series where Isiah put up perhaps the greatest finals performance ever, scoring 25 points in a quarter on one foot and refusing to live with the fact that his team could lose. not to mention the obvious facts, that he was the team's leader and Dantley's didn't have a case for the MVP stats-wise.
full story:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... -interview
damn, Dantley is one weird and enigmatic guy. he's actually working as a crossing cop nowadays just because he doesn't want to pay for health insurance.
Called Zeke a con man;
Said he didn't watch the documentary, "you think I’m gonna listen to Isiah talk?";
Admitted that he's still angry about the trade acknowledging that 25 years have gone by since then;
Claimed that everybody loved him on the team besides Isiah (my own side-note - he certainly was a veteran figure on the team and had the nickname - "The Teacher". I remember reading that a torn up Salley even cried after the trade);
and most ridiculously claimed that if they had won the 88 Finals, he wouldn't have won the MVP simply because Isiah wouldn't have let him. dude... we're talking about the series where Isiah put up perhaps the greatest finals performance ever, scoring 25 points in a quarter on one foot and refusing to live with the fact that his team could lose. not to mention the obvious facts, that he was the team's leader and Dantley's didn't have a case for the MVP stats-wise.
full story:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... -interview
damn, Dantley is one weird and enigmatic guy. he's actually working as a crossing cop nowadays just because he doesn't want to pay for health insurance.

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LamarMatic7 wrote:Follow-up on the documentary - Dantley went on a Detroit radio show and criticized Isiah:
Called Zeke a con man;
Said he didn't watch the documentary, "you think I’m gonna listen to Isiah talk?";
Admitted that he's still angry about the trade acknowledging that 25 years have gone by since then;
Claimed that everybody loved him on the team besides Isiah (my own side-note - he certainly was a veteran figure on the team and had the nickname - "The Teacher". I remember reading that a torn up Salley even cried after the trade);
and most ridiculously claimed that if they had won the 88 Finals, he wouldn't have won the MVP simply because Isiah wouldn't have let him. dude... we're talking about the series where Isiah put up perhaps the greatest finals performance ever, scoring 25 points in a quarter on one foot and refusing to live with the fact that his team could lose. not to mention the obvious facts, that he was the team's leader and Dantley's didn't have a case for the MVP stats-wise.
full story:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... -interview
damn, Dantley is one weird and enigmatic guy. he's actually working as a crossing cop nowadays just because he doesn't want to pay for health insurance.
Dantley did average 21 and 5 on 57% shooting. He scored 11 more points over the series than Isiah despite taking 33 less shots and playing less minutes. He got to the free throw line and hit at 86%. Isiah put up big numbers and had that one huge game but he also jacked up a lot of shots and hit less than 30% from 3 for the series. If the two had gotten along better maybe they could have won the series.
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jdm3 wrote:LamarMatic7 wrote:Follow-up on the documentary - Dantley went on a Detroit radio show and criticized Isiah:
Called Zeke a con man;
Said he didn't watch the documentary, "you think I’m gonna listen to Isiah talk?";
Admitted that he's still angry about the trade acknowledging that 25 years have gone by since then;
Claimed that everybody loved him on the team besides Isiah (my own side-note - he certainly was a veteran figure on the team and had the nickname - "The Teacher". I remember reading that a torn up Salley even cried after the trade);
and most ridiculously claimed that if they had won the 88 Finals, he wouldn't have won the MVP simply because Isiah wouldn't have let him. dude... we're talking about the series where Isiah put up perhaps the greatest finals performance ever, scoring 25 points in a quarter on one foot and refusing to live with the fact that his team could lose. not to mention the obvious facts, that he was the team's leader and Dantley's didn't have a case for the MVP stats-wise.
full story:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... -interview
damn, Dantley is one weird and enigmatic guy. he's actually working as a crossing cop nowadays just because he doesn't want to pay for health insurance.
Dantley did average 21 and 5 on 57% shooting. He scored 11 more points over the series than Isiah despite taking 33 less shots and playing less minutes. He got to the free throw line and hit at 86%. Isiah put up big numbers and had that one huge game but he also jacked up a lot of shots and hit less than 30% from 3 for the series. If the two had gotten along better maybe they could have won the series.
I don't think that them having their differences had any affect on the outcome of this series.

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LamarMatic7 wrote:jdm3 wrote:LamarMatic7 wrote:Follow-up on the documentary - Dantley went on a Detroit radio show and criticized Isiah:
Called Zeke a con man;
Said he didn't watch the documentary, "you think I’m gonna listen to Isiah talk?";
Admitted that he's still angry about the trade acknowledging that 25 years have gone by since then;
Claimed that everybody loved him on the team besides Isiah (my own side-note - he certainly was a veteran figure on the team and had the nickname - "The Teacher". I remember reading that a torn up Salley even cried after the trade);
and most ridiculously claimed that if they had won the 88 Finals, he wouldn't have won the MVP simply because Isiah wouldn't have let him. dude... we're talking about the series where Isiah put up perhaps the greatest finals performance ever, scoring 25 points in a quarter on one foot and refusing to live with the fact that his team could lose. not to mention the obvious facts, that he was the team's leader and Dantley's didn't have a case for the MVP stats-wise.
full story:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... -interview
damn, Dantley is one weird and enigmatic guy. he's actually working as a crossing cop nowadays just because he doesn't want to pay for health insurance.
Dantley did average 21 and 5 on 57% shooting. He scored 11 more points over the series than Isiah despite taking 33 less shots and playing less minutes. He got to the free throw line and hit at 86%. Isiah put up big numbers and had that one huge game but he also jacked up a lot of shots and hit less than 30% from 3 for the series. If the two had gotten along better maybe they could have won the series.
I don't think that them having their differences had any affect on the outcome of this series.
It is hard to tell but don't you think there were times when say Danltey and someone else were options and Isiah went to the other person despite the best scorer being Dantley. I just think subconsciously or maybe even on purpose there were times he would have snubbed Dantley.
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i dont doubt that isiah is a con-man. i mean, if i was an owner, i could see him calling me up asking for an interview to be GM. he talks me into it and i agree, just to get him off the phone. but im my head i am laughing, thinking there is no **** way i would hire this guy after what he did to the knicks and the CBA and every other thing he has ruined. then isiah comes in for the interview and by the end i am eating out of the palm of his hands, giving him a contract, more money than he asked for, giving him total control of the team, the coach, letting him date my daughter, giving him my house... 5 mins after he leaves, i think, what the hell just happened. i freak out and try to cancel, but its too late, contract has been signed.
that dude is one smooth talker.
that dude is one smooth talker.
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haha. fats as always can perfectly express his feelings with an imaginative write-up.

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doc.end wrote:And we just lost Logander somewhere along the way. Not sure for which post it was and why. Mods being mods I guess.
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He could be a good scout. Um, he could help with the draft, not sure I would hire because of his antics.

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was reading simmons playoff article today and he mentioned the possibility of a roadhouse remake. how did i miss that news?
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Holy crap these are gold
Edit: my favorite is "Drake the type of **** to put his socks on with both feet in the air"
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Drake the type of **** to stop at red lights in GTA
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Some Bobcat players need to do this lol
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April 26th is my birthday, so if the Bobcats had any decency they would win for me.













