Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40)

[hell_razor]

not surprised honestly

you guys have to understand that during the 1940s, black people in america were very mistreated and badly viewed by the majority of white people. This guy grew up during that era and after you become 50 years old it's hard to change your philosophies and views on things.

[VanDamme]

Dagger I don't disagree with you but even with Stern if he stood up and said Sterling must go the owner would have followed if it was simply to keep the value of the assets. We both come from a similar generation and have seen massive improvements in Canadian society much less in USA.

But tolerance is a long road and there are still miles to cover.

Silver will put his stamp on the NBA by getting rid of this cancer.

Then again, if the boys club collectively turned against Stern then what was he going to be able to accomplish? *Just playing devil's advocate. Situation could have been a lot more complicated than what's on the surface.

Look if Stern stood up went public that Sterling must go it would have tied the hands of the owners if they opposed him the value of a NBA franchise would go down.

Boys Club is something of the past in university I belonged to such a club.
Some thought it would be a great idea having a "spear chucker night party" at the time I was dating a black girl.
Told them they were a-holes a never went back.

FYI: I agree with you and a couple pages back said that Stern, ignoring official legal procedures, could have gone public and didn't necessarily have to make it so cosy for the guy to stick around. I agree there are different ways of achieving the goal and in my opinion it came down to priorities. At the same time, the boys club can't be ignored. Good on you for leaving. You are better than Stern.

[CPT]

Is it not possible to think that Sterling is a racist who should be reprimanded for his actions and hopefully removed from his position AND that his GF is a disgusting excuse for a human being? His offense is worse, and the only one really punishable, but we are still allowed to talk about hers. She wanted to be in the public eye, and maybe now she should have to answer some uncomfortable questions about why she chose to associate with an 80 year old known racist.

I feel like Sterling being a racist is just taken for granted, and there isn't that much to say about it. He's just so clearly in the wrong that there isn't much to discuss. After reading the thread, I see that not everyone shares that view, but I haven't seen more than a handful of posters make anything resembling a defense of Sterling.

I don't see why there's a rush to defend this woman or act like her role in this isn't worthy of discussion, unless people are suggesting the source and or medium of the message render it moot.

In my opinion there are two reasons, it's a distraction from a serious issue, and she has nothing to do with the NBA so is irrelevant.

The distraction is the main concern. She is the more easily discussed and "fun" or "sexy" topic because we can start calling her a whore, gold digger etc like so many posters have. That just encourages debate on something that doesn't really matter. The more we stray from keeping the conversation on Sterling then in my opinion we are collectively dismissing the seriousness of racism. You are right, to some extent, "Sterling being a racist is just taken for granted" because of his history so let's not let it go away so easily.

Good points.

Sterling is a racist and does need to be called out for it. Wouldn't hurt if he had to answer some questions about the existence his 20-something half Black/half Mexican GF when he's a married man who has made court documented statements about both groups. The details of their relationship and his treatment of her as well.

I listened to the entire recording, and I came away thinking "these are both awful people."

Since I think Sterling's case is close to unanimous, I'm more interested in discussing her and her role, even though I know it's not what is truly important here.

When some new responses come out, then there will be more to talk about regarding Sterling.

[cammac]

not surprised honestly

you guys have to understand that during the 1940s, black people in america were very mistreated and badly viewed by the majority of white people. This guy grew up during that era and after you become 50 years old it's hard to change your philosophies and views on things.

Sterling is Jewish and without a doubt he faced discrimination as well including the horrors on Nazi Germany. In the civil rights movement of the 60's many of the strongest supporters of against discrimination were the Jewish community who walked proudly in the civil rights marches.

A man's age especially one who has obviously been successful and has long held views on the subject can be condoned.

[Inevitable]

not surprised honestly

you guys have to understand that during the 1940s, black people in america were very mistreated and badly viewed by the majority of white people. This guy grew up during that era and after you become 50 years old it's hard to change your philosophies and views on things.

Sterling is Jewish and without a doubt he faced discrimination as well including the horrors on Nazi Germany. In the civil rights movement of the 60's many of the strongest supporters of against discrimination were the Jewish community who walked proudly in the civil rights marches.

A man's age especially one who has obviously been successful and has long held views on the subject can be condoned.

If he had faced any discrimination as a Jew it certainly hasn't been a detterent to his racist behavior.

[SHAQ ATTACK]

They should send Big Baby to knock him out, rough him up a bit lol.

[Double Bubble]

Is it not possible to think that Sterling is a racist who should be reprimanded for his actions and hopefully removed from his position AND that his GF is a disgusting excuse for a human being? His offense is worse, and the only one really punishable, but we are still allowed to talk about hers. She wanted to be in the public eye, and maybe now she should have to answer some uncomfortable questions about why she chose to associate with an 80 year old known racist.

I feel like Sterling being a racist is just taken for granted, and there isn't that much to say about it. He's just so clearly in the wrong that there isn't much to discuss. After reading the thread, I see that not everyone shares that view, but I haven't seen more than a handful of posters make anything resembling a defense of Sterling.

I don't see why there's a rush to defend this woman or act like her role in this isn't worthy of discussion, unless people are suggesting the source and or medium of the message render it moot.

Do I detect logic? On a discussion forum?

Excellent post, both are reprehensible and IT SHOULDN'T BE HARD to agree on that. Why is it hard to agree on that? Why are posters investing themselves in one side or the other? It's a simple narrative, two idiots fall in love and the rest is history.

Naturally it is good to discuss how we remedy our society, and vigorous debate is encouraged on these issues at large, but these two clowns aren't worth our time. Although Sterling is obviously relevant to the NBA and business world, so I guess some posters here don't want anyone changing the channel on that. But this woman gives tramps everywhere a bad name and that's saying something. Again you said it man, there isn't much more to add.

[Cold Logic]

What a weak, pathetic, little man.

[supra2k8]

Snoop Dogg's response to Sterling

warning: lots of profanity

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQlsSk7sCRM[/youtube]

[Danny1616]

not surprised honestly

you guys have to understand that during the 1940s, black people in america were very mistreated and badly viewed by the majority of white people. This guy grew up during that era and after you become 50 years old it's hard to change your philosophies and views on things.

Sterling is Jewish and without a doubt he faced discrimination as well including the horrors on Nazi Germany. In the civil rights movement of the 60's many of the strongest supporters of against discrimination were the Jewish community who walked proudly in the civil rights marches.

A man's age especially one who has obviously been successful and has long held views on the subject can be condoned.

I was thinking the same thoughts exactly.

Ironic that as a minority, and one that was mistreated in his own country, especially in the 1930s would be so racist and prejudiced against other minorities. The majority of American Jews have always been emphatically liberal, voted democrat and generally tolerant of all cultures, especially minorities that have suffered from past discrimination.

But as always there are exceptions.

[cammac]

Just checked other boards give kudo's to ours, Chicago, NYKs and LAC's on many others including Nets, Atlanta, LAL, Boston and Detroit not even a topic.

What should players do?
My suggestion is to all players in the playoffs wear arm bands with black, white, yellow and brown on them a silent but meaningful protest.

Racism is everywhere and I teach privately in China one of the things I do with students is put 2 eggs in front of them one white and one brown. Ask the student which is best 95% of the time they pick the brown egg. Then I explain they are both the same I cook the two eggs and ask for them to pick out the brown egg. Obviously they can only guess because they both taste the same. Then can talk about race.

[KnickerBonkerz]

Snoop Dogg's response to Sterling

warning: lots of profanity

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQlsSk7sCRM[/youtube]

does this change your opinion on what Snoop Dogg thinks?



WTF is wrong with these dudes man? Is this where D-wade and Lebron learned this stuff from??

[DeBrick]

Just checked other boards give kudo's to ours, Chicago, NYKs and LAC's on many others including Nets, Atlanta, LAL, Boston and Detroit not even a topic.
.

lol it's not a topic on there probably because those forums are not that active, so people just post on the GB for most OT threads. Not likely because they're racist. Well.... maybe Boston

[VanDamme]

not surprised honestly

you guys have to understand that during the 1940s, black people in america were very mistreated and badly viewed by the majority of white people. This guy grew up during that era and after you become 50 years old it's hard to change your philosophies and views on things.

Sterling is Jewish and without a doubt he faced discrimination as well including the horrors on Nazi Germany. In the civil rights movement of the 60's many of the strongest supporters of against discrimination were the Jewish community who walked proudly in the civil rights marches.

A man's age especially one who has obviously been successful and has long held views on the subject can be condoned.

I was thinking the same thoughts exactly.

Ironic that as a minority, and one that was mistreated in his own country, especially in the 1930s would be so racist and prejudiced against other minorities. The majority of American Jews have always been emphatically liberal, voted democrat and generally tolerant of all cultures, especially minorities that have suffered from past discrimination.

But as always there are exceptions.

Where did you find this stat?

[Boogie!]

wait a minute though... so he doesn't like black people? but his girlfriend is part black (from the looks of it.) what a weirdo.

[cammac]

Sterling is Jewish and without a doubt he faced discrimination as well including the horrors on Nazi Germany. In the civil rights movement of the 60's many of the strongest supporters of against discrimination were the Jewish community who walked proudly in the civil rights marches.

A man's age especially one who has obviously been successful and has long held views on the subject can be condoned.

I was thinking the same thoughts exactly.

Ironic that as a minority, and one that was mistreated in his own country, especially in the 1930s would be so racist and prejudiced against other minorities. The majority of American Jews have always been emphatically liberal, voted democrat and generally tolerant of all cultures, especially minorities that have suffered from past discrimination.

But as always there are exceptions.

Where did you find this stat?

The 5 cornerstones to the Democratic vote are Blacks, Jewish vote (69%) in last election, woman, youth and now Hispanic outside Florida.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/0 ... 84008.html

[DeBrick]

wait a minute though... so he doesn't like black people? but his girlfriend is part black (from the looks of it.) what a weirdo.

from the looks of it, she's aspiring to be LaToya Jackson

[supra2k8]

Snoop Dogg's response to Sterling

warning: lots of profanity

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQlsSk7sCRM[/youtube]

does this change your opinion on what Snoop Dogg thinks?



WTF is wrong with these dudes man? Is this where D-wade and Lebron learned this stuff from??

I don't even have an opinion on what he said lol idc about snoop tbh...and wth is he doing lol, so wade and lebron doing things like this?

[BloodyNose]

i dont understand, its clear his views are distorted and theres nothing anyone can do about it. Crucify him but it doesn't change the fact he is what he is. He doesn't murder anyone, rape anyone, but is just a victim of his stupid old age and the way he grew up. This man is 80.

[Danny1616]

Sterling is Jewish and without a doubt he faced discrimination as well including the horrors on Nazi Germany. In the civil rights movement of the 60's many of the strongest supporters of against discrimination were the Jewish community who walked proudly in the civil rights marches.

A man's age especially one who has obviously been successful and has long held views on the subject can be condoned.

I was thinking the same thoughts exactly.

Ironic that as a minority, and one that was mistreated in his own country, especially in the 1930s would be so racist and prejudiced against other minorities. The majority of American Jews have always been emphatically liberal, voted democrat and generally tolerant of all cultures, especially minorities that have suffered from past discrimination.

But as always there are exceptions.

Where did you find this stat?

Its been widely known.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... democratic

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/js ... wvote.html