Around the NBA 8.0 (Playoffs Edition)

Post #1201 » by **IggieCC** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:19 pm

Refs don't call those fouls anymore (at least they are not supposed to due to rule changes this year).

The fact that KD is pulling out those cheap obsolete moves tells me that he is running out of ideas to score against Memphis.

I credit Scott Brooks for overusing KD in the regular season for his sterling performances in the first round. 8-)

The dude looks totally gassed at times.

ixxa wrote:Prince outsmarted KD, funny as hell

Those cheap moves didn't work.

Vertical Limit · Post #1202 » by **Vertical Limit** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:21 pm

They've called the rip through move several times in the playoffs. Tayshaun Prince just showed what a high IQ player he is.

heatlespeatles · Post #1203 » by **heatlespeatles** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:31 pm

boateng wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:one thing i realized from these playoffs, Lebron and Wade were really really mature basketball players for their age, shot selection, the way they learned to play together, everything. Lebron was 25 when he came here, except for the Dallas series, he was AMAZING during that playoff run. Even the last shot KD took shows me how immature he is when its all said and done and things get tight...

his inability to play well when the defense is tough is startling, its almost like Dirk all over again when people use to say Dirk was soft.

Kevin Durant is immature? Coming from a Lebron fan?

Yes in terms of his decision making on the court. Immature basketball IQ, same as Harden and RW

And for the record I've always felt LeBron was very mature since high school. Been in the spotlight forever and few blemishes on his record as a person. Great individual. Only thing people point to as being immature on the court is dancing during blow out games but his game is next level basketball IQ, up there with the greats. Kd out here forcing every 3 point shot he can muster up. Give wade that same time he finds a way to get to the rim. Maturity

Also, u mad?

dr3am · Post #1204 » by **dr3am** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:50 pm

Anybody else kind of shocked how Tony Allen does a better job at defending KD then Tayshaun Prince? Prince is an excellent defender but for some reason KD lights him up likes he's not even there

Mugiwara · Post #1205 » by **Mugiwara** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:52 pm

I'm still hoping LeBron snags MVP. :roll:

Run DLC · Post #1206 » by **Run DLC** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:59 pm

ixxa wrote:Prince outsmarted KD, funny as hell

Those cheap moves didn't work.

This is why it pains me when some Heat fans on here tries to root for this guy to succeed and by that I'm mean they hope to constantly see him go to the finals. You can respect the guy and i deeply respect his basketball skills and his ability to score with ease, but you don't have to constantly hope to see him go all the way to the finals and get closer and closer to win it all. He's the most coddled superstar that I've seen over the last decade. I couldn't care less that OKC, Pacers, Spurs, Rockets, etc lose in the first round and in fact that's what I'm hoping for. All i care about is seeing my team and favorite player(LeBron) keep on winning and no matter how they get it done.

dancing2thabeet · Post #1207 » by **dancing2thabeet** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Mugiwara wrote:I'm still hoping LeBron snags MVP.

Well if voters take the first round of playoffs into account, I'm sure he will. :lol:

wm3 wrote:Anybody else kind of shocked how Tony Allen does a better job at defending KD then Tayshaun Prince? Prince is an excellent defender but for some reason KD lights him up likes he's not even there

Not really, I've always considered Tony Allen to be one of the best wing defenders in the league. Granted, Prince is good too, but not on Allen's level imo.

Run DLC · Post #1208 » by **Run DLC** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:10 pm

Durant deserved to win the MVP and he earned it. With that being said, I like it that way because it will motivates LeBron more to win it all and prove that he still best in the league and that he's not ready to give that title yet. I wouldn't say angry, but i like it when LeBron plays more serious and isn't all friendly and giggling around. Not winning the MVP this season is enough motivation to make him want to push Durant out of the spotlight and that's the LeBron that i like, not the all friendly LeBron.

boateng · Post #1209 » by **boateng** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:16 pm

Run DLC wrote:Durant deserved to win the MVP and he earned it. With that being said, I like it that way because it will motivates LeBron more to win it all and prove that he still best in the league and that he's not ready to give that title yet. I wouldn't say angry, but i like it when LeBron plays more serious and isn't all friendly and giggling around. Not winning the MVP this season is enough motivation to make him want to push Durant out of the spotlight and that's the LeBron that i like, not the all friendly LeBron.

Lol lebron and durant are close friends
It really isnt that serious. They have a job to do and,outside of that its a nkrmal life for them. I always see pics online of durant and lebron out together. They like each other very much

boateng · Post #1210 » by **boateng** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:20 pm

heatlespeatles wrote:
boateng wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:one thing i realized from these playoffs, Lebron and Wade were really really mature basketball players for their age, shot selection, the way they learned to play together, everything. Lebron was 25 when he came here, except for the Dallas series, he was AMAZING during that playoff run. Even the last shot KD took shows me how immature he is when its all said and done and things get tight...

his inability to play well when the defense is tough is startling, its almost like Dirk all over again when people use to say Dirk was soft.

Kevin Durant is immature? Coming from a Lebron fan?

Yes in terms of his decision making on the court. Immature basketball IQ, same as Harden and RW

And for the record I've always felt LeBron was very mature since high school. Been in the spotlight forever and few blemishes on his record as a person. Great individual. Only thing people point to as being immature on the court is dancing during blow out games but his game is next level basketball IQ, up there with the greats. Kd out here forcing every 3 point shot he can muster up. Give wade that same time he finds a way to get to the rim. Maturity

Also, u mad?

Why would i be mad? I dont support the thunder and tbh i dont want them in the finals,because they will get swept by miami
I just find,it funny how heat fans have suddenly started hating Durant with a passion and are rooting for him to fail! Reminds me of what lebron had to put up with kobe fans being insecure. When your great the hate comes

ixxa · Post #1211 » by **ixxa** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:23 pm

The league is making next gen superstars, 2003 class Lebron Wade Melo Bosh didn't get the calls like they used to, yet KD WESTBROOK HARDEN PGEORGE can easily get 10+ FT .

The challenge for LBJ and BIG 3 is what they could do to handle this in their late prime.

DW is the first, up till now he has transformed pretty well, play efficient play smart, nice off-ball slasher, good mid-rage shooter, good post players, good paser. People easily forget when the team is formed in 2010, he was almost on the same level as Lebron. If he could develope a consistent CS 3pt (35%) , it would help himself and this team a lot, hell a lot.

Bosh is the second, i would say not so successful, yes he is a very good shooter yes he even developed 3pt. but he is nowhere near the player he used to be, people would argue the role SPO gives him, but even on the defensive end, it comes more and more often he got bullied by some rookie / semi rookie bigmen, and his finishing under the rim is awful.

Lebron, admit or not, due to back spasm and other minor injure, he is physically declining. Kinda rediculous to say to a guy who still can do some head at rim dunk, but it's the truth. He is still an alien type POWER + SPEED + SIZE athlete, but he is nowhere near as agile, as effortless as he was in the cavalier days. Signature moves like chase down blocks, lock down defense even against most explosive guards like DROSE, steal + coast to coast are all disappearing, We seem to see him gas out more and more often. But lucky for him and for us, he has developed a good post game combine with his court vision and pass skill, a above average mid rage shooting + a good 3pt shooting with his good shot selection, I bet even after 35, he could still be a super rich version of Boris Diaw.

Run DLC · Post #1212 » by **Run DLC** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:31 pm

boateng wrote:
Run DLC wrote:Durant deserved to win the MVP and he earned it. With that being said, I like it that way because it will motivates LeBron more to win it all and prove that he still best in the league and that he's not ready to give that title yet. I wouldn't say angry, but i like it when LeBron plays more serious and isn't all friendly and giggling around. Not winning the MVP this season is enough motivation to make him want to push Durant out of the spotlight and that's the LeBron that i like, not the all friendly LeBron.

Lol lebron and durant are close friends
It really isnt that serious. They have a job to do and,outside of that its a nkrmal life for them. I always see pics online of durant and lebron out together. They like each other very much

I don't mind that they're friends and they have the right to be friends. What i don't like is that LeBron tends to show too much respect and admiration to his opponents and friends while they're both competing in the regular season/post season. You can have fun, hanging out, party and whatnot in the off-season, but when the season is on, you should consider all of your close friends as potential enemies and threats to what you're trying to achieve. Maybe he's playing mind games by keeping them closer and softening them up by being nice to them all the time, but as a fan, it's not fun to watch two competitors being friendly while they have a competition going on. You can hug it out after the competition is over, but not when the competition is on.

Post #1213 » by **IggieCC** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:36 pm

Not really. Tayshaun Prince is not the same player he was in Detroit (pre-knee injury)... he was one of the best defenders in the league back then. Tony Allen is still one of the best one-on-one defenders (if not the best) and he is doing an excellent job being physically with KD and annoying the hell out of him.

KD can blow by or shake up Price with his quickness whereas he can't against Allen.

wm3 wrote:Anybody else kind of shocked how Tony Allen does a better job at defending KD then Tayshaun Prince? Prince is an excellent defender but for some reason KD lights him up likes he's not even there

OtW · Post #1214 » by **OtW** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:39 pm

Durant should be able to post up Allen. The problem is Memphis really packs the paint, and OKC is not making them respect their shooters.

The floor needs to be spread for KD and WB to go to work.

MisterHibachi · Post #1215 » by **MisterHibachi** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:43 pm

OtW wrote:Durant should be able to post up Allen. The problem is Memphis really packs the paint, and OKC is not making them respect their shooters.

The floor needs to be spread for KD and WB to go to work.

Zbo manages to post up with Allen and Prince on the floor. KD isn't able to post up Allen simply because he's too physically weak, not because his shooters aren't giving him space.

Post #1216 » by **IggieCC** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:48 pm

Agreed. That's why I don't really want to face Memphis in the Finals at all. If our shooters are off, LeBron and Wade will probably face the similar problem KD and WB are facing.. LeBron and Wade have better post up games, but they still have to shoot over those tall big bodies in the middle. Without Mike, and with aging Ray Allen and Shane Battier, I don't have as much confidence in our inside-out game as I did in the past few seasons.

OtW wrote:Durant should be able to post up Allen. The problem is Memphis really packs the paint, and OKC is not making them respect their shooters.

The floor needs to be spread for KD and WB to go to work.

Post #1217 » by **IggieCC** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:54 pm

But forget Tony Allen's defense, we have a new KD stopper! Best closeout I've seen in years :lol:

http://youtu.be/G9nI4zlEW2A

Run DLC · Post #1218 » by **Run DLC** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:07 pm

I like our chances against the Grizzlies. Any team, but OKC Thunder.

dr3am · Post #1219 » by **dr3am** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:20 pm

#BasedGod curse on KD

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBQ2mjkvYY8[/youtube]

Run DLC wrote:I like our chances against the Grizzlies. Any team, but OKC Thunder.

Do you watch basketball? Neither of them are a threat. Your'e the only LeBron fan on this site that fears OKC

heatlespeatles · Post #1220 » by **heatlespeatles** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:21 pm

boateng wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:
boateng wrote:
Kevin Durant is immature? Coming from a Lebron fan?

Yes in terms of his decision making on the court. Immature basketball IQ, same as Harden and RW

And for the record I've always felt LeBron was very mature since high school. Been in the spotlight forever and few blemishes on his record as a person. Great individual. Only thing people point to as being immature on the court is dancing during blow out games but his game is next level basketball IQ, up there with the greats. Kd out here forcing every 3 point shot he can muster up. Give wade that same time he finds a way to get to the rim. Maturity

Also, u mad?

Why would i be mad? I dont support the thunder and tbh i dont want them in the finals,because they will get swept by miami
I just find,it funny how heat fans have suddenly started hating Durant with a passion and are rooting for him to fail! Reminds me of what lebron had to put up with kobe fans being insecure. When your great the hate comes

I don't hate them nor am I insecure, I was being very kind in saying Kd wasn't a mature basketball player yet and I can go in on many flaws is his playing style including his dependence on free throws but like I said. His basketball IQ just isn't up to par

Why my maturity comment got to you I have no idea, learn to read and decipher what hate is and what it isn't.