McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread

[ARHornet]

I really don't want mcbob back...he is cool and all but his stats for the amount of minutes played are just bad

I made a post earlier about how McBob's impact really can't be counted by just looking at a stat sheet. He makes the other 4 players on the court better when he is on the floor. If you look at advanced stats you see that we are a much better team with McBob on the floor. I know there is a hope that Zeller can start there, but at this point, he's done absolutely nothing to make me think he is close to starting. Beyond rebounding (where McBob is underrated), is there anything Zeller does better than McBob right now? I mean if Zeller improves by leaps and bounds or you can go land a top power forward in the offseason, then maybe you let him walk. But McBob is a big key to our success. I don't want to see him walk unless we can land a clear upgrade.

[mrknowitall215]

I really don't want mcbob back...he is cool and all but his stats for the amount of minutes played are just bad

You're missing the point with McBob if you're looking at stats. I think his ideal role is a 20 minute per game backup, which I think he'll be doing in a year or two. He has been everything you could ask for out of a role player.

I liked mcbob more when he was a banger and not a point forward.

I will 'And1' this portion

This team will be much better off with Zeller starting and he is going to need to make a major leap forward to do that.

...but I'm indifferent towards this portion because I don't believe in Zeller's jump shot or translation to anything close to a 'stretch 4' just yet. I'm not saying that he can't, but I'm not too optimistic about it neither

[Liver_Pooty]

I am THE Zeller fan on here, but Zeller is going to have to make some incredible improvements both mentally and physically to take that starting job away. I wish we could put McRoberts skill set and mind into Zellers athletic body. We would have one hell of a PF.

[HornetJail]

I am THE Zeller fan on here, but Zeller is going to have to make some incredible improvements both mentally and physically to take that starting job away. I wish we could put McRoberts skill set and mind into Zellers athletic body. We would have one hell of a PF.

Can we add Biyombo's strength and prior experience fighting off wild animals?

[Snidely FC]

I was at that game 3 vs. MIA. McRoberts was THE Leader and Fighting Spirit of our team. He was telling our young players where to be and what to do. He was the ONLY one who did not back down against Lebron's giant hanging penis, the only one who did not give up or Play Like a Toddler. There will be a MAJOR leadership void in this team if they let Josh McRoberts Go.
I would pay him $4 Mln/year without blinking.

[fatlever]

i still cant believe how many people underrate mcroberts and what he means to this team.

exhibit a) zeller finished with more hammers (33) than mcroberts (32).

[mrknowitall215]

i still cant believe how many people underrate mcroberts and what he means to this team.

exhibit a) zeller finished with more hammers (33) than mcroberts (32).

I'll admit that I didn't like the way he was excessively used as almost a primary ball handler/facilitator during the first half of the season, but I never underestimated his presence. I still would prefer for him to go back to his gritty ways like he was at Indiana and Los Angeles, but if he improve on his knack/willingness to shoot 3-pointers this offseason & manage keep at least around the same efficiency I might have to change that way of thinking

[countryboi]

i still cant believe how many people underrate mcroberts and what he means to this team.

exhibit a) zeller finished with more hammers (33) than mcroberts (32).

thats mostly because his his roll has the primary ball handler...I think he handles the ball way to much and it needs to be placed back in the hands of kemba

[BadMofoPimp]

From an outside perspective so there is no homerism, didn't the Bobcats underachieve when Kemba was the "Primary" ballhandler then they bring in McBob and all of a sudden the whole team are overachievers. But, since the flashy Kemba is not your "Primary" handler or doesn't have the ball in his hands at all times, fans would rather the team go back to underachieving. Obviously, the coach knows what he is doing because he sees the game good enough to understand that keeping the ball in one persons hands alone is not working as well as spreading the ball around like McBob has done for your team. You don't need big stats to make your team better.

[Fred Williamson]

If McBob keeps doing what he did last season, and just improves his 3pt shooting to be a more consistent shooter, I'm totally fine with him keeping the starting job

[mrknowitall215]

didn't the Bobcats underachieve when Kemba was the "Primary" ballhandler then they bring in McBob and all of a sudden the whole team are overachievers

That would be false. McRoberts was a connector as a secondary ball handler since Henderson wasn't capable, and MKG rarely seen the ball in his hands, but the offense and team as a whole didn't thrive until the second half of the season when Clifford gave Kemba the freedom to operate in pick-and-roll situations more often, and subsequently Kemba's assist rate went up and the offensive efficiency of the team became above average

There you go...and you're welcome

[yosemiteben]

i still cant believe how many people underrate mcroberts and what he means to this team.

exhibit a) zeller finished with more hammers (33) than mcroberts (32).

thats mostly because his his roll has the primary ball handler...I think he handles the ball way to much and it needs to be placed back in the hands of kemba

Can not more strongly disagree with this statement. Kemba dominates the ball on our team more than any other player on any other team - obviously by necessity, not by choice. Just look at the stats on this.

[mrknowitall215]

i still cant believe how many people underrate mcroberts and what he means to this team.

exhibit a) zeller finished with more hammers (33) than mcroberts (32).

thats mostly because his his roll has the primary ball handler...I think he handles the ball way to much and it needs to be placed back in the hands of kemba

Can not more strongly disagree with this statement. Kemba dominates the ball on our team more than any other player on any other team - obviously by necessity, not by choice. Just look at the stats on this.

If you expand it you'd see that Josh McRoberts is ranked 26th in most touches in the league, just behind Jeff Teague and ahead of LeBron James

[fatlever]

did anyone know mcjesus had a hurt toe? he just had surgery. out 4 weeks.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ery-On-Toe

[HornetJail]

did anyone know mcjesus had a hurt toe? he just had surgery. out 4 weeks.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ery-On-Toe

He'd missed some late games in march and april i think

[countryboi]

did anyone know mcjesus had a hurt toe? he just had surgery. out 4 weeks.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ery-On-Toe

He'd missed some late games in march and april i think

he had a bone spur in his foot...bone spurs hurt like a bitch and the recovery process sucks

[mrknowitall215]

McRoberts also missed the start of preseason due to a foot injury. I'm assuming that it was correlated to the very same toe injury that he's had surgery on. Hopefully Jefferson doesn't wait too long to get surgery on removing bone spurs from his ankle so that it doesn't keep him out of training & conditioning this offseason, and possibly the start of training camp as well

[Eoghan]

4 weeks seems like an awfully long recovery time for someone that only took 3 days to resurrect.

[Elden Payton]

I am THE Zeller fan on here, but Zeller is going to have to make some incredible improvements both mentally and physically to take that starting job away. I wish we could put McRoberts skill set and mind into Zellers athletic body. We would have one hell of a PF.

*cough, cough*

There are in fact two of us

[HornetJail]

4 weeks seems like an awfully long recovery time for someone that only took 3 days to resurrect.

oh come on He never had bone spurs in his foot