PG: We Battled

[Prokorov]

Its the fact that we are able to see the ball go through the hoops from all the adversity of the series. We haven't been able to do that all series long until this game.

What nonsense. you know what else we saw? we saw lowry drain shot after shot including the go ahead and game winners late. thats what we saw go through the hoop. this team has played 87 games. this isnt 6th grade recreation. it takes more then "seeing the ball go in the hoop"

Adversity? What adversity? only adversity this team has is self-made by not showing up to game until the second half

Everyone played well at that last quarter. This is something to build on when its something urgent. Yeah it's still a process, even veteran teams needs this type scenario no matter what. You know why? Because at the end of the day we are only humans.

This is just flat out incorrect. you know who didnt play well the last quarter? 2 of our starters, pierce and KG, who were glued to the bench.

Veteran plays is only prominent because they would make the right plays and a better understanding to not back down when times get rough. That' is what to build here. So yeah it is still a process.

Again, you talk like we got eliminated and yet we are still in it.

we did get eliminated.... its all a formality at this point. 30-39 year old players dont build anything from losing a game 5 on the road where they got waxed for 3 quarters and then choked their brains out in the last 3 minutes. you know what build charecter? playing well those last 3 minutes and stealing a game on the road...

you know, ACTUALLY WINNING THE GAME.

[Prokorov]

This is an absolutely stupid post. You're just throwing **** at the wall and hoping that it sticks. What was so synchronized about the way we ended that game? D-Will sure looked in tune with everyone else as he played passively and cowardly while Joe Johnson was taking it to the Raptors. Of all the nonsense I've read on RealGM this really ranks up there.

For the record, I am happily married, but if you want to get personal we can, but I doubt Rich or jac would like that.

we were so in sync that blatche airmailed our last possesion over williams head and into the back court

If you watch the replay Lowry obviously tipped (if you understands physics) that ball and Dwill's last shot was goal tended.

The refs didn't see it at the spur of the moment from all the other intangibles that were going on. It was just an unlucky break.

the refs checked the replay. the ball was certainly NOT tipped. and either way. it was a HORRIBLE pass... certainly not a pass that would show teammates are in sync with one another

its one thing to be a homer, its another to be such a homer you are spinning it to the point where you are saying you would rather lose a playoff game and have a comeback that falls short then to win the game

i mean seriously GTFO with that nonsense

[SuppaSlick]

I'm a little surprised to hear complaints about Lowry taking charges. I understand he embellishes contact on charges but his feet are definitely set, in restricted area, and reads the play well. Every player in the league embellishes contact. Im not going to sit here and defend him because I know he exaggerates sometimes but I wouldn't say he exaggerates more than any other elite player at his position

Derozan on the other hand is on a Dwade level flopper on all his shot attempts so I'll give you nets fans that. He yells and flails on just about every shot attempt. During regular season when he isnt getting calls its very abysmal to watch. Half the time he would rather sell the contact instead of putting the ball in the net. Personally Im very surprised the refs are giving him those calls;figured they would be cut out in the playoffs

I'm more surprised with the way the refs are calling it. After game one when Tim Donaghy said it was fixed the Raptors have been getting very solid foul calls for the most part, for once even getting favourable calls on home court

[HelloBrooklyn]

we were so in sync that blatche airmailed our last possesion over williams head and into the back court

If you watch the replay Lowry obviously tipped (if you understands physics) that ball and Dwill's last shot was goal tended.

The refs didn't see it at the spur of the moment from all the other intangibles that were going on. It was just an unlucky break.

the refs checked the replay. the ball was certainly NOT tipped. and either way. it was a HORRIBLE pass... certainly not a pass that would show teammates are in sync with one another

its one thing to be a homer, its another to be such a homer you are spinning it to the point where you are saying you would rather lose a playoff game and have a comeback that falls short then to win the game

i mean seriously GTFO with that nonsense

Refs are only able to check if it was a backcourt violation or not. They are not able the multiple other plays. We were **** either way. Listen I'm done arguing with you I always like going to this forum when I feel like procrastinating. It's the end of the semester and I got papers to write. You are obviously as stubborn as me and arguing in circles with you is just time wasting.

[God Squad]

It adds that you are an embarrassment and haven't accomplished a damn thing as a franchise to even act so macho. Quit while your ahead.

N Brooklyn here accomplished a lot. We're pretty much on even grounds on achievements.
Those brash young guns vs the calm humbled n battled vets.

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Raptors:

6 playoff Appearances
2 Atlantic Division Titles
1 second round Appearances
625 franchise wins

Nets:

25 playoff Appearances
5 Atlantic Division Titles
11 second round Appearances
2 NBA Finals Appearances
2 ABA Championships
1,675 franchise wins

In what realm are both teams on even grounds historically? Your franchise was considering a full rebrand including a name change because nobody paid them any attention in Canada but now you feel the need to brag about passionate fans? Please. The Nets don't have an elite history but they have accomplished much more than the Raptors ever did. Raptor fans coming in here trolling like you have some great list of accomplishments is rather pathetic and a large part as to why nobody likes your fanbase in our forum.

Don't let this fool get under your skin. Honestly just ban him.

[RaptorRed]

If you watch the replay Lowry obviously tipped (if you understands physics) that ball and Dwill's last shot was goal tended.

The refs didn't see it at the spur of the moment from all the other intangibles that were going on. It was just an unlucky break.

the refs checked the replay. the ball was certainly NOT tipped. and either way. it was a HORRIBLE pass... certainly not a pass that would show teammates are in sync with one another

its one thing to be a homer, its another to be such a homer you are spinning it to the point where you are saying you would rather lose a playoff game and have a comeback that falls short then to win the game

i mean seriously GTFO with that nonsense

Refs are only able to check if it was a backcourt violation or not. They are not able the multiple other plays. We were **** either way. Listen I'm done arguing with you I always like going to this forum when I feel like procrastinating. It's the end of the semester and I got papers to write. You are obviously as stubborn as me and arguing in circles with you is just time wasting.

In order to check if it was a backourt violation the refs would have to check if the ball was tipped which is the only thing that could reverse the call , so yes they did check if the ball was tipped. What did you think they were checking ? If Deron was behind the half court line ? lol because he clearly was.

[visionquest]

Does the league not have authority to punish confirmed flops after the fact?

If so, why has it not done so to Lowry?

[LOUiS-D]

Does the league not have authority to punish confirmed flops after the fact?

If so, why has it not done so to Lowry?

They only go after the sore thumb cases. People who are good at accentuating contact can do it as productively as ever.

[asuran]

It adds that you are an embarrassment and haven't accomplished a damn thing as a franchise to even act so macho. Quit while your ahead.

N Brooklyn here accomplished a lot. We're pretty much on even grounds on achievements.
Those brash young guns vs the calm humbled n battled vets.

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What back to back final appearances is nothing?

We gotta be humble, bro. Humble like the vets. We got this.
New era in Brooklyn. New beginnings.

[Prokorov]

the refs checked the replay. the ball was certainly NOT tipped. and either way. it was a HORRIBLE pass... certainly not a pass that would show teammates are in sync with one another

its one thing to be a homer, its another to be such a homer you are spinning it to the point where you are saying you would rather lose a playoff game and have a comeback that falls short then to win the game

i mean seriously GTFO with that nonsense

Refs are only able to check if it was a backcourt violation or not. They are not able the multiple other plays. We were **** either way. Listen I'm done arguing with you I always like going to this forum when I feel like procrastinating. It's the end of the semester and I got papers to write. You are obviously as stubborn as me and arguing in circles with you is just time wasting.

In order to check if it was a backourt violation the refs would have to check if the ball was tipped which is the only thing that could reverse the call , so yes they did check if the ball was tipped. What did you think they were checking ? If Deron was behind the half court line ? lol because he clearly was.

seriously... of course they checked if it was tipped or not... and really, it wasnt close to being tipped if you watch the replay. this is so beyond homerific its not even funny

[BloodyNose]

Does the league not have authority to punish confirmed flops after the fact?

If so, why has it not done so to Lowry?

Because the nba and the refs LOVE kyle lowry. They love the starting point guard of the Toronto Raptors, a team that television networks like espn and tnt would never want to show unless they are forced to.

[Maternal]

Does the league not have authority to punish confirmed flops after the fact?

If so, why has it not done so to Lowry?

Yes. But the raptors don't flop they exaggerate contact. There's a difference. Flopping is when you fall with literally nobody touching you. Guys like Lowry, Wade, James, etc exaggerate contact. Its actually part of the game now. Moreover raptor players specifically Lowry are good at this. Hence him leading the league in charges taken. So when they Nets tanked to get the raptors they had to know this is part of their game plan. Perhaps this is a case of being careful for what you wish for ?

[BloodyNose]

Does the league not have authority to punish confirmed flops after the fact?

If so, why has it not done so to Lowry?

Yes. But the raptors don't flop they exaggerate contact. There's a difference. Flopping is when you fall with literally nobody touching you. Guys like Lowry, Wade, James, etc exaggerate contact. Its actually part of the game now. Moreover raptor players specifically Lowry are good at this. Hence him leading the league in charges taken. So when they Nets tanked to get the raptors they had to know this is part of their game plan. Perhaps this is a case of being careful for what you wish for ?

You do know that taking a charge means you have to have proper positioning don't you? The reason lowry takes the most charges is because hes great at this and hes willing to sacrifice his body. Not all players are willing to pay the price. And by god the raptors better be exaggerating on every single illegal screen, if they don't KG will get away with it like he always does.

[Maternal]

Does the league not have authority to punish confirmed flops after the fact?

If so, why has it not done so to Lowry?

Yes. But the raptors don't flop they exaggerate contact. There's a difference. Flopping is when you fall with literally nobody touching you. Guys like Lowry, Wade, James, etc exaggerate contact. Its actually part of the game now. Moreover raptor players specifically Lowry are good at this. Hence him leading the league in charges taken. So when they Nets tanked to get the raptors they had to know this is part of their game plan. Perhaps this is a case of being careful for what you wish for ?

You do know that taking a charge means you have to have proper positioning don't you? The reason lowry takes the most charges is because hes great at this and hes willing to sacrifice his body. Not all players are willing to pay the price. And by god the raptors better be exaggerating on every single illegal screen, if they don't KG will get away with it like he always does.

You really think in every charge call the player is in proper position ? Lowry does do this well but he also exaggerates as well.

[Springhettios]

No one is complaining about Lowry taking charges. It is his flopping. For example, falling over when Mirza was pressing him. Or his flailing when he takes jumpers and someone is up on him. His ass is constantly on the ground. It is pathetic and really annoying to watch.

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[Paradise]

Does the league not have authority to punish confirmed flops after the fact?

If so, why has it not done so to Lowry?

Yes. But the raptors don't flop they exaggerate contact. There's a difference. Flopping is when you fall with literally nobody touching you. Guys like Lowry, Wade, James, etc exaggerate contact. Its actually part of the game now. Moreover raptor players specifically Lowry are good at this. Hence him leading the league in charges taken. So when they Nets tanked to get the raptors they had to know this is part of their game plan. Perhaps this is a case of being careful for what you wish for ?

You do know that taking a charge means you have to have proper positioning don't you? The reason lowry takes the most charges is because hes great at this and hes willing to sacrifice his body. Not all players are willing to pay the price. And by god the raptors better be exaggerating on every single illegal screen, if they don't KG will get away with it like he always does.

Oh Please. The officials have called KG for illegal screens all the time throughout the series. The only inconsistency of the officiating has been flopping.

Example:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDZxvBJ0ZmY[/youtube]


Vasquez shoots a three, purposely falls backwards to exaggerate contact for a shooting foul. KG, stares at him and gets called for a technical after Vasquez begs for a foul.

That's the type of stuff Lowry, DeRozan and Vasquez has consistently done throughout the series.

Then on our side:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIhG8E1GpN0[/youtube]

DeRozan totally throws Livingston out of bounds for a rebound and there is no call. Do you realistically think if Lowry or DeRozan got tossed like that, the refs would let it go?

[Prokorov]

No one is calling out lowry for flops on chargers where he steps in the lane and draws a charge...

people are calling the flops for when he is being posted up and flails his body away from the offensive player like he was shot out of a cannon

[cyrusdm]

Then on our side:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIhG8E1GpN0[/youtube]

DeRozan totally throws Livingston out of bounds for a rebound and there is no call. Do you realistically think if Lowry or DeRozan got tossed like that, the refs would let it go?

Watch it again buddy.

DD has better position for the long rebound and jumps into the air for it....while he's in mid air, Livingston jumps for it, initiating contact and sending them both flying. If any foul were to be called, it's clearly an over the back.

You can't argue it...derozen jumps, then livingston makes contact with HIM...not the other way around.

As for the tip, you're dreaming. The better team won, and the better team is up 3-2.

Bet you wished you hadn't of tanked for the Raptors.
To bad the Nets were afraid of a banged up Chicago team that is now out the playoffs. haha

[RaptorRed]

No one is calling out lowry for flops on chargers where he steps in the lane and draws a charge...

people are calling the flops for when he is being posted up and flails his body away from the offensive player like he was shot out of a cannon

I agree that Lowry flops a bit and exaggerates the contact. But you guys don't take into consideration the fact that he is a very small guy. Listed at 6'0 he looks even shorter , and he constantly attacks the basket against 6'10 guys that are twice his weight , so obviously he will be hitting the ground a lot , its not all flopping .. he is just a small guy playing like Wade and Lebron play. I agree he flops sometimes but a lot of the times he is on the ground because he is a small guy playing against guys way bigger than him.

[Springhettios]

No one is calling out lowry for flops on chargers where he steps in the lane and draws a charge...

people are calling the flops for when he is being posted up and flails his body away from the offensive player like he was shot out of a cannon

I agree that Lowry flops a bit and exaggerates the contact. But you guys don't take into consideration the fact that he is a very small guy. Listed at 6'0 he looks even shorter , and he constantly attacks the basket against 6'10 guys that are twice his weight , so obviously he will be hitting the ground a lot , its not all flopping .. he is just a small guy playing like Wade and Lebron play. I agree he flops sometimes but a lot of the times he is on the ground because he is a small guy playing against guys way bigger than him.

Weight is what matters not height. Dude has a lot of weight on him. He flops. Quit making up excuses.

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