CDR and the Soul Tones - Chris Douglas-Roberts Thread

mrknowitall215 · Post #181 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu May 1, 2014 8:26 pm

CDR said "This is the part of the story people don’t know. My rookie year I played sparingly due to injury, mainly Vince Carter. However the end of that year I got healthy and my minutes increased and I played really well to finish the year off. That next year we traded Vince Carter (who I was playing behind) and I flourished. For the first 3 months of that season I started and averaged 17ppg and 6rbs. Coach Frank got fired…things changed…got traded to Milwaukee, had a couple 30 point games there and the next year I was in Italy during lockout. After the lockout it has been an uphill battle up until this point in my career. People who don’t follow me wouldn’t know that I’ve had success in this league already as a starter. That is why I seem so comfortable on the floor. Because of my past success in the NBA, coupled with my work ethic I feel overly prepared on the floor. And that translates to productivity."

This is the part of the the story I tried to tell them for you CDR immediately upon your signing :wink:

mattcampbell · Post #182 » by **mattcampbell** » Fri May 2, 2014 3:08 am

I would really love to see us start CDR at the two instead of making a knee-jerk decision to acquire someone different just for the sake of change

Liver_Pooty · Post #183 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 3:27 am

mattcampbell wrote:I would really love to see us start CDR at the two instead of making a knee-jerk decision to acquire someone different just for the sake of change

CDR is a decent role player and all, but he is not a starter in the NBA. Even he would tell you that. Coming off the bench though? Hes excellent.

mattcampbell · Post #184 » by **mattcampbell** » Fri May 2, 2014 3:45 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mattcampbell wrote:I would really love to see us start CDR at the two instead of making a knee-jerk decision to acquire someone different just for the sake of change

CDR is a decent role player and all, but he is not a starter in the NBA. Even he would tell you that. Coming off the bench though? Hes excellent.

maybe so but I thought he did pretty good when Hendo went down

catch20two · Post #185 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 2, 2014 3:58 am

CDR would be a good stopgap starting SG as long as we keep a scoring 6th man behind him. He certainly would make for a better starter than Hendo and the numbers would agree.

catch20two · Post #186 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 2, 2014 3:59 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mattcampbell wrote:I would really love to see us start CDR at the two instead of making a knee-jerk decision to acquire someone different just for the sake of change

CDR is a decent role player and all, but he is not a starter in the NBA. Even he would tell you that. Coming off the bench though? Hes excellent.

CDR just said loud and clear in the interview above that he's had success as a starter in this league.

HornetJail · Post #187 » by **HornetJail** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:03 am

CDR has been nothing short of solid for us. I would've been happy with him as a starter for the months of March and April. However, CDR is no reason for us to not pursue better options. A wing rotation of

MKG/CDR/Tolliver
Stephenson/CDR

would be crazy good for us. I would keep him over Hendo this offseason.

Liver_Pooty · Post #188 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:03 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
mattcampbell wrote:I would really love to see us start CDR at the two instead of making a knee-jerk decision to acquire someone different just for the sake of change

CDR is a decent role player and all, but he is not a starter in the NBA. Even he would tell you that. Coming off the bench though? Hes excellent.

CDR just said loud and clear in the interview above that he's had success as a starter in this league.

You honestly believe that we would be OK with CDR as our starting SG next year? I like CDR and all, but he started 38 games for NJ nearly 4 years ago, and he wasn't exactly lights out. Hes better off of the bench, period.

Liver_Pooty · Post #189 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:04 am

If CDR is our starter next year at SG than we have had a massive disappointment in free agency.

HornetJail · Post #190 » by **HornetJail** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:05 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:If CDR is our starter next year at SG than we have had a massive disappointment in free agency.

and on the trade market

catch20two · Post #191 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:10 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
CDR is a decent role player and all, but he is not a starter in the NBA. Even he would tell you that. Coming off the bench though? Hes excellent.

CDR just said loud and clear in the interview above that he's had success as a starter in this league.

You honestly believe that we would be OK with CDR as our starting SG next year? I like CDR and all, but he started 38 games for NJ nearly 4 years ago, and he wasn't exactly lights out. Hes better off of the bench, period.

I don't care about individual stats as much as I care about how much better our team played with CDR starting at SG. I would be comfortable going to bed with CDR starting as long as we're winning. I'm more afraid of us making a mistake by signing the wrong player for $10 mil per year for over 3 years than I am of us settling with CDR until we find the perfect upgrade at SG. A desperate signing just because we have money could haunt us. Look at Hendo for instance and he's not even massively overpaid.

ARHornet · Post #192 » by **ARHornet** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:10 am

I just hope we bring CDR back and, assuming he's brought back, we don't stick him on the bench behind Hendo and Neal like we did in the playoffs.

catch20two · Post #193 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:12 am

We couldn't find a taker for Hendo for a 2nd round pick right about now. Lol. That's the type of ish I'm afraid of. Not CDR starting because he's a solid player with handles and he can nail the 3. His playoff numbers were crazy efficient.

Liver_Pooty · Post #194 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:15 am

catch20two wrote:We couldn't find a taker for Hendo for a 2nd round pick right about now. Lol. That's the type of ish I'm afraid of. Not CDR starting because he's a solid player with handles and he can nail the 3. His playoff numbers were crazy efficient.

Tell me, and be honest.. Do you want Chris Douglas Roberts as your starting SG next year? This is the position where we are going to spend our money and upgrade more than likely..

catch20two · Post #195 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:28 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:We couldn't find a taker for Hendo for a 2nd round pick right about now. Lol. That's the type of ish I'm afraid of. Not CDR starting because he's a solid player with handles and he can nail the 3. His playoff numbers were crazy efficient.

Tell me, and be honest.. Do you want Chris Douglas Roberts as your starting SG next year? This is the position where we are going to spend our money and upgrade more than likely..

I'll be honest enough to say that I'd trust CDR more than I'd trust Hendo or signing Stephenson to be our starting SG. I don't want CDR to be our future at starting SG but I'd be content rolling the dice with him until we can find the right trade for or draft the right up upgrade. I'm scared of signing a player that's a cancer or enable us from making other moves.

Liver_Pooty · Post #196 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:30 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:We couldn't find a taker for Hendo for a 2nd round pick right about now. Lol. That's the type of ish I'm afraid of. Not CDR starting because he's a solid player with handles and he can nail the 3. His playoff numbers were crazy efficient.

Tell me, and be honest.. Do you want Chris Douglas Roberts as your starting SG next year? This is the position where we are going to spend our money and upgrade more than likely..

I'll be honest enough to say that I'd trust CDR more than I'd trust Hendo or signing Stephenson to be our starting SG. I don't want CDR to be our future at starting SG but I'd be content rolling the dice with him until we can find the right trade for or draft the right up upgrade. I'm scared of signing a player that's a cancer or enable us from making other moves.

I can respect most of that statement. We are going to sign someone to upgrade one of either SG or SF, and it damn well better be SG.

On a side note, can you or me ever, for one day go one day without disagreeing with one another. My Lord, lol.

catch20two · Post #197 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:33 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Tell me, and be honest.. Do you want Chris Douglas Roberts as your starting SG next year? This is the position where we are going to spend our money and upgrade more than likely..

I'll be honest enough to say that I'd trust CDR more than I'd trust Hendo or signing Stephenson to be our starting SG. I don't want CDR to be our future at starting SG but I'd be content rolling the dice with him until we can find the right trade for or draft the right up upgrade. I'm scared of signing a player that's a cancer or enable us from making other moves.

I can respect most of that statement. We are going to sign someone to upgrade one of either SG or SF, and it damn well better be SG.

On a side note, can you or me ever, for one day go one day without disagreeing with one another. My Lord, lol.

You have an acquired or exquisite taste when it come to players. You also have a lot more patience than I do. We agree to disagree so that's agreeing. Lol

Liver_Pooty · Post #198 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:36 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:I'll be honest enough to say that I'd trust CDR more than I'd trust Hendo or signing Stephenson to be our starting SG. I don't want CDR to be our future at starting SG but I'd be content rolling the dice with him until we can find the right trade for or draft the right up upgrade. I'm scared of signing a player that's a cancer or enable us from making other moves.

I can respect most of that statement. We are going to sign someone to upgrade one of either SG or SF, and it damn well better be SG.

On a side note, can you or me ever, for one day go one day without disagreeing with one another. My Lord, lol.

You have an acquired or exquisite taste when it come to players. You also have a lot more patience than I do. We agree to disagree so that's agreeing. Lol

You actually have more patience than I do to be honest. You like Biyombo, I was a huge Biyombo fan, but he just ended his 3rd year. You still like MKG, I love MKG, he just ended his 2nd year and can't shoot. You love Kemba, I love Kemba, and we both can say he had a great year EXCEPT for his shooting the past couple months. I've about run out of patience for Biyombo though.

catch20two · Post #199 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:43 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
I can respect most of that statement. We are going to sign someone to upgrade one of either SG or SF, and it damn well better be SG.

On a side note, can you or me ever, for one day go one day without disagreeing with one another. My Lord, lol.

You have an acquired or exquisite taste when it come to players. You also have a lot more patience than I do. We agree to disagree so that's agreeing. Lol

You actually have more patience than I do to be honest. You like Biyombo, I was a huge Biyombo fan, but he just ended his 3rd year. You still like MKG, I love MKG, he just ended his 2nd year and can't shoot. You love Kemba, I love Kemba, and we both can say he had a great year EXCEPT for his shooting the past couple months. I've about run out of patience for Biyombo though.

You're just looking at Biz the wrong way or had the wrong expectations if you were expecting him to be good offensively this soon. During draft workouts he could barely score on a chair. I like Biz because he was drafted to be a shot blocker and rebounder and he's lived up to those expectations so I'm cool with his progress.

Liver_Pooty · Post #200 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 4:47 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:You have an acquired or exquisite taste when it come to players. You also have a lot more patience than I do. We agree to disagree so that's agreeing. Lol

You actually have more patience than I do to be honest. You like Biyombo, I was a huge Biyombo fan, but he just ended his 3rd year. You still like MKG, I love MKG, he just ended his 2nd year and can't shoot. You love Kemba, I love Kemba, and we both can say he had a great year EXCEPT for his shooting the past couple months. I've about run out of patience for Biyombo though.

You're just looking at Biz the wrong way or had the wrong expectations if you were expecting him to be good offensively this soon. During draft workouts he could barely score on a chair. I like Biz because he was drafted to be a shot blocker and rebounder and he's lived up to those expectations so I'm cool with his progress.

I like Biyombo because he is an incredible guy and a good locker room guy. If he would spend one fourth of his time on basketball as he does doing his cross fit routine he would be a really good player.

Edit: I honestly down him at times because some on this board think that he is invincible and never get onto him when he does anything bad. He could commit a severe criminal offense and people on this board will always make an excuse for him. I will always get down on someone over their play. Zeller, MKG, Kemba, it doesn't matter. Play like garbage and I will call someone out on it.