Officiating in the NBA

[NorthernNemesis]

The refs did their job. Made you think the game was really close. But in reality they weren't letting a team with no star power go against the heat in the second round. (Not implying we were good enough to win in the first place)

Should have tanked.

Die slow, Sincerely Raptor fan

[2pat]

The Reffing was not as bad as people make it out to be..

Game 7: Bad calls both ways.. Touchy 4th on Amir, the block on TRoss went against the Raps.. similarly, blown calls against the Nets.. touchy 4th on Pierce, bloack against Pierce etc.. Similarly, there was a CLEAR charge by Lowry in the final 2 mins of the game which wasn't called and the Raps caught a break..

Game 4, the nets were called for a lot of offensive fouls in the final 2 mins and the raps benefited..

It's been pretty even and it's about time us Raps fans stop blaming the refs and think the whole world is out to get us..

Do you actually watch the games and come up with your own conclusions? or do you just want to sound like the voice of reason instead of a conspiracy nut?

RealGM is full of these types. There is no reasoning with them.

[AW1lliamsR0X]

Sure refs killed the flow of the game and it was difficult to get back in to the game. But also we have to note that we were late on rotations and doubled way to often. We were lazy on defence and that hurt us.

[ratul]

it was a ticky tack called game and a lot of 50/50 calls were questionable and made at very difficult times for the raps. Our top scorer fouled out with 7 minutes to go - what a joke

[UN-Owen]

If the NBA establishment was so biasedly patriotic Steve Nash wouldn't have won MVP twice over the likes of Shaq and Kobe.

Also I know MVP is voted upon by the media, but american media tends to be more patriotic in general.

A short, white guy winning the MVP isn't such a bad thing when you're concerned about the "thug image" of your league

[Rapsobsessed7]

this is the one big issue i had in todays game...consistency.

The D-Will/Lowry blocking foul - Lowry was clearly above the restricted area, had his feet set, yet it was called a block. Derozan goes down the court does the exact same thing (makes the bucket too) and is called for a charge. I dont get how the exact same play can be called differently, if you want to call that a block on Lowry thats fine, call it a block on Blatche as well.

Deron should have fouled out. He fouled Lowry not KG, thats just a blatantly missed call.

The last play isnt going to get called a foul unless he gets absolutely mauled. Pierce's block looked clean, if Lowry doesnt lose his dribble going through the lane he gets the shot over him IMO. The little hesitation was enough for Pierce to rise up and get the block.

Brooklyn is a good team, they arent a normal 6th seed. Joe Johnson is a beast and if you play this game 10 times the result is split. I really dont think the calls were that bad today to be honest i just want consistency. I want to know what a foul is and what isnt.

[will]

NBA wants Miami/Brooklyn.

'Nuff.

[aminiaturebuddha]

I agree with some on here that the reffing wasn't as horrible as some are making it out to be. It wasn't necessarily terrible.

That said, the Nets obviously got the benefit of more 50/50 calls and generally seemed to have more respect from the refs. Sadly, in a series decided by one point, that could have made a difference.

[Duffman100]

The Lowry block was a block.
The Blatche/Derozan charge was a charge.

Plain and simple, you can rewatch them all night long. They got the calls right.

People started this storyline of the refs out to screw us and they're seeing everything through those skewed glasses.

[Geddy]

The Matt and Jack effect has taken its toll on this board.

[Crazy_NBA_Fan]

Another important note, did anyone see Derrick Sttafford's resistance to call Toronto basketball after Ross CLEARLY threw the ball off of the Nets player during the final moments of the game? It absolutely KILLED him to give Toronto the sign. Look at the review, he first motioned Nets ball with resistance but not with authority and then changed his body motion and gave Toronto the sign after like 4 seconds. The play looked so SUSPECT. Even look at his facial expression when he made the call. Derrick Sttafford knew the play was too OBVIOUS to be Toronto ball so he did the right thing, but he knows if he could've gotten away with it he would've made a different call.

The refs were a joke this game and it is a damn shame. The charging call on DeRozan was accurate and the Lowry play could've gone either way but the refs gave Amir Johnson 2 or 3 silly fouls that he didn't earn. The same thing they were doing to Jonas in the series when he was feeling it they did to Amir Johnson, which was getting quick fouls on them to be in foul trouble. These refs know exactly what they're doing. Please review Amir's third, fourth, and fifth foul calls and tell me its not BS.

Also, Brooklyn got away with holding and hand-checking the WHOLE SERIES. Whenever the Raptors tried to play like Brooklyn they would get a foul. Even that play in the final stretch of the game where Ross blew by Johnson to make the bucket, Johnson was holding Ross' forearm like CRAZY. That play should've been an AND 1. Furthermore, Lowry was FOULED TWICE on that final possession to win the game, first before the ball was inbounded, they were holding him. Secondly, Garnett bumped Lowry causing him to lose his balance before throwing a desperate shot up.

I honestly knew this series would consist of horrible calls on the part of the refs, but I didn't think Brooklyn would get away with as much as they did. I clearly predicted this by creating this thread and some of you guys thought it was all conspiracy talk by me. The Raptors could've easily beaten Brooklyn in this series the only question was will the refs allow them to? Well now that the series is over its pretty clear they didn't.

COMPLETE TRUTH in handchecking. Do you guys watch what happens before players drive to the basket? Raptors Werent handchecking nets were.

I know bro, some of these posters don't understand basketball. I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion but some people have the audacity to brush off your opinion simply because they can't fathom the NBA being rigged even when the evidence is in front of their eyes. The average poster here just looks for whether or not the Raptors score or not on offense and don't watch any other aspects of the game. There's so many factors that can cause a team to lose. Brooklyn was notorious for hand-checking and KG got away with illegal screens the whole series. The Raptors played clean on defense, and did not hand-check any player at all. The only player I saw trying to mimic Brooklyn's defense was Lowry, and even when he tried the whistle would be blown on him so quick. Once he realized he couldn't get away with it like Brooklyn, he stopped doing it.

The refs were a joke this game and it is a damn shame. The charging call on DeRozan was accurate and the Lowry play could've gone either way but the refs gave Amir Johnson 2 or 3 silly fouls that he didn't earn. The same thing they were doing to Jonas in the series when he was feeling it they did to Amir Johnson, which was getting quick fouls on them to be in foul trouble. These refs know exactly what they're doing. Please review Amir's third, fourth, and fifth foul calls and tell me its not BS.

Also, Brooklyn got away with holding and hand-checking the WHOLE SERIES. Whenever the Raptors tried to play like Brooklyn they would get a foul. Even that play in the final stretch of the game where Ross blew by Johnson to make the bucket, Johnson was holding Ross' forearm like CRAZY. That play should've been an AND 1. Furthermore, Lowry was FOULED TWICE on that final possession to win the game, first before the ball was inbounded, they were holding him. Secondly, Garnett bumped Lowry causing him to lose his balance before throwing a desperate shot up.

I honestly knew this series would consist of horrible calls on the part of the refs, but I didn't think Brooklyn would get away with as much as they did. I clearly predicted this by creating this thread and some of you guys thought it was all conspiracy talk by me. The Raptors could've easily beaten Brooklyn in this series the only question was will the refs allow them to? Well now that the series is over its pretty clear they didn't.

I'm with you 100%. I was in sports, liked for the essence of competition, but NBA is a joke. It's business first and game itself almost doesn't matter.

I agree, I'm losing my passion for the NBA now that the Raptors are a competitive team. Before the Raptors would suck so I didn't have the opportunity to analyze the officiating so closely. However, being a fan of my team and unfortunately seeing it being screwed is not anything fun to watch and it spoils it for me. I'm glad to see that you're not the typical poster here who just turns a blind eye to the facts and what is obvious. A lot of the posters here don't understand the business side of the NBA. Even some of the posters who are supposed to be well respected, I honestly hold back from giving my true opinion due to the repercussions. Believe it or not, there's even a little politics on this Raptors forum, no one wants to hear the truth.

[uniballer]

The call that changed the game is the refs missed a blatant travel bu derron when he was trouble before they fouled him... that is inexcusable

[basketball royalty]

The Reffing was not as bad as people make it out to be..

Game 7: Bad calls both ways.. Touchy 4th on Amir, the block on TRoss went against the Raps.. similarly, blown calls against the Nets.. touchy 4th on Pierce, bloack against Pierce etc.. Similarly, there was a CLEAR charge by Lowry in the final 2 mins of the game which wasn't called and the Raps caught a break..

Game 4, the nets were called for a lot of offensive fouls in the final 2 mins and the raps benefited..

It's been pretty even and it's about time us Raps fans stop blaming the refs and think the whole world is out to get us..

Wrote some stuff but not going to print it because I don't want to get banned. Read between the lines and that is what I have to say to you. Good day.

[Southward1]

A couple blatant calls.

Amir's 3rd foul on Pierce where he didn't even touch him.
The back-to-back block/charge calls that went for the Nets but not the Raptors.
Giving KG the foul that should have gone to DWill when KG didn't even do anything.

This. I didn't have a problem with the other calls even though most of them were BS but those 2 are just inexcusable. The NBA seriously needs to implement a system like the NFL where coaches have 1 chance to fight against a foul/call in the 4th quarter or overtime. D-WIll fouling out would have completely changed the game for us. Sick of this nonsense against our team. Just sick of it.

Yeah, i was going nuts over that. KG didn't even touch Lowry, it was all williams..

[Susp3ct]

Joey wasn't even the worst official today.

couldnt agree with this anymore

[Mark_83]

A couple blatant calls.

Amir's 3rd foul on Pierce where he didn't even touch him.
The back-to-back block/charge calls that went for the Nets but not the Raptors.
Giving KG the foul that should have gone to DWill when KG didn't even do anything.

This. I didn't have a problem with the other calls even though most of them were BS but those 2 are just inexcusable. The NBA seriously needs to implement a system like the NFL where coaches have 1 chance to fight against a foul/call in the 4th quarter or overtime. D-WIll fouling out would have completely changed the game for us. Sick of this nonsense against our team. Just sick of it.

I would be shocked if they did. It makes perfect sense, given how hard they say it is to make calls. But it would take too much power away from them to control games.

[dublo7]

The Lowry block was a block.
The Blatche/Derozan charge was a charge.

Plain and simple, you can rewatch them all night long. They got the calls right.

People started this storyline of the refs out to screw us and they're seeing everything through those skewed glasses.

Whatever.

DWill gets 7 fouls, right? That was the right call, KG fouled KL not DWill?

That the NBA would prefer a Nets / Heat series is not hogwash. Its business. Unfortunately, that got in the way of gameplay today.

[Duffman100]

Whatever.

DWill gets 7 fouls, right? That was the right call, KG fouled KL not DWill?

That the NBA would prefer a Nets / Heat series is not hogwash. Its business. Unfortunately, that got in the way of gameplay today.

Why is it so much easier for fans to use the refs as a crutch instead of looking at the glaring weaknesses of our team? Our team wasn't good enough, there's no shame in it. We just aren't there yet.

We're starting a SG at SF and a 22 year old center. We have no legit defensive wing and a no legit backup center. These issues haunted us much more than the refs ever did.

[Rapcity_11]

Why watch a sport if you're convinced it's rigged?

[curryking3]

this is the one big issue i had in todays game...consistency.

The D-Will/Lowry blocking foul - Lowry was clearly above the restricted area, had his feet set, yet it was called a block. Derozan goes down the court does the exact same thing (makes the bucket too) and is called for a charge. I dont get how the exact same play can be called differently, if you want to call that a block on Lowry thats fine, call it a block on Blatche as well.

Deron should have fouled out. He fouled Lowry not KG, thats just a blatantly missed call.

Lowry didn't have his feet set. He was dragging. That was a 50-50 call from the floor, but I think the referees actually made the right call there.

Blatche on the other side of the court was perfectly set, and the referees happened to make the right call there too.

But I agree with the bolded: Deron should have fouled out, that was major BS.

The thing about Deron staying in the game is that it drastically affects Lowry's opportunity to drive. Dwill isn't the greatest defender I guess, but he's kept up with Lowry all Game 7. I think if they took out Deron like they should have, Lowry might've even gotten a better opportunity in all the plays after that to do some driving.

This game competes with Game 3 of the series for infuriating calls. I think Game 3 was worse though.

What bothers me is that not a single call was reviewed. Yet in Game 3 they reviewed a halftime shot by Lowry and took 2 points away from us when the 3rd Q started. Some weird stuff IMO.

Whatever.

DWill gets 7 fouls, right? That was the right call, KG fouled KL not DWill?

That the NBA would prefer a Nets / Heat series is not hogwash. Its business. Unfortunately, that got in the way of gameplay today.

Why is it so much easier for fans to use the refs as a crutch instead of looking at the glaring weaknesses of our team? Our team wasn't good enough, there's no shame in it. We just aren't there yet.

We're starting a SG at SF and a 22 year old center. We have no legit defensive wing and a no legit backup center. These issues haunted us much more than the refs ever did.

As much as the Raptors did suck and set themselves up to lose the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to peg some of the difficulties on the inconsistent officiating.

I still remember some of the calls from Game 3 which I think Raptors probably should have won. That was the worst officiating I have seen in the NBA that I can remember. Like KG and Pierce shoving and then grabbing JV and JV getting called for a foul.