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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#981 » by baulderdash77 » Sun May 4, 2014 11:58 pm

Duffman100 wrote:The Lowry block was a block.
The Blatche/Derozan charge was a charge.

Plain and simple, you can rewatch them all night long. They got the calls right.

People started this storyline of the refs out to screw us and they're seeing everything through those skewed glasses.


I'm pretty biased to the Raptors but I have to agree with this.

The non-calls were a bigger issue. Livingston got away with a pretty blatant push-off and so did JJ. Deron fouled out but they gave the call to KG. Amir's 4th foul was complete BS.

On the other side- Lowry committed a charge and should have fouled out too.

I think there were 5 bad calls in the game and 4 went against the Raptors; but the calls everyone is upset about were called correctly.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#982 » by baulderdash77 » Mon May 5, 2014 12:02 am

Another thing though- JJ really exposed a problem we have. There is nobody on this roster who can guard the bigger SF in the NBA. If we had an answer to JJ this series is over in 5 or 6. That's our biggest problem.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#983 » by curryking3 » Mon May 5, 2014 12:04 am

baulderdash77 wrote:Another thing though- JJ really exposed a problem we have. There is nobody on this roster who can guard the bigger SF in the NBA. If we had an answer to JJ this series is over in 5 or 6. That's our biggest problem.

Agreed wholeheartedly, the biggest problem this entire series was defense and defensive meltdowns.

Easy penetration and easy buckets for SG and SF for them. It was embarrassing. What bothers me is that the Raptors have had that characteristic for so many years, and it has still not really been resolved.

The perimeter defense of BK was far superior.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#984 » by Duffman100 » Mon May 5, 2014 12:05 am

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baulderdash77 wrote:Another thing though- JJ really exposed a problem we have. There is nobody on this roster who can guard the bigger SF in the NBA. If we had an answer to JJ this series is over in 5 or 6. That's our biggest problem.

Agreed wholeheartedly, the biggest problem this entire series was defense and defensive meltdowns.

Easy penetration and easy buckets for SG and SF for them. It was embarrassing. What bothers me is that the Raptors have had that characteristic for so many years, and it has still not really been resolved.

The perimeter defense of BK was far superior.


Yup, we simply conceded the JJ would either back down his defender and get a layup, or we'd double. There was no other plan.

I liked Salmons fronting and going 3/4 in game 5. In fact, I don't think we fronted JJ nearly enough.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#985 » by carlosey » Mon May 5, 2014 12:05 am

One thing is for sure. The questionable calls and the manipulation of the nba in the flow of the games is becoming more and more apparent in the minds of the general public.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#986 » by kyrils » Mon May 5, 2014 12:21 am

our hope is next year we get calls because the league thinks we are a good story because our crazy fans and the team wins 50 something games because we are better than eveyone else in the east.

can refs make a difference think about it. calls are made because of momentum. there was a game against the heat this year where we were up like 12 and the refs called 5 in a row against us for traveling or offensive fouls and they went up by 10 within 5 minutes.

We may not have lost the game only because of bad reffing but it can affect the game.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#987 » by hsb » Mon May 5, 2014 12:24 am

baulderdash77 wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:The Lowry block was a block.
The Blatche/Derozan charge was a charge.

Plain and simple, you can rewatch them all night long. They got the calls right.

People started this storyline of the refs out to screw us and they're seeing everything through those skewed glasses.


I'm pretty biased to the Raptors but I have to agree with this.

The non-calls were a bigger issue. Livingston got away with a pretty blatant push-off and so did JJ. Deron fouled out but they gave the call to KG. Amir's 4th foul was complete BS.

On the other side- Lowry committed a charge and should have fouled out too.

I think there were 5 bad calls in the game and 4 went against the Raptors; but the calls everyone is upset about were called correctly.

Yeah those two plays I don't have a problem with as well. Problem was almost every 50/50 call was going against the Raptors today and two teams were given different leeway. Not good for a fan base to see.
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Re: Jason Kidd fined $25K for public criticism of officals 

Post#988 » by IMAN5 » Mon May 5, 2014 12:59 am

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IMAN5 wrote:I feel like coaches getting fined is a way for a team to "donate" money to the league in return for favorable calls.


100% of the fines end up going to charities. So no.


I think many would agree that after a coach gets fined his team gets more favorable calls.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#989 » by will » Mon May 5, 2014 1:04 am

Timmy Donaghey already said it's rigged.
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Post#990 » by Komodo » Mon May 5, 2014 1:06 am

will wrote:Timmy Donaghey already said it's rigged.


This.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#991 » by rarefind » Mon May 5, 2014 1:08 am

Numerous non calls, push offs. Our quick fouls in the first quarter... putting them in the bonus early. Fairly inconsequential but the 6th foul on Williams.

The Raptors got the short end of the stick, it was not so much the calls made against us that hurt us. The refs were pretty much on the ball there. It is the overlooking of numerous 50/50 calls which seemed to always ice a Raptors run in this one.
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Re: Officiating in the NBA 

Post#992 » by Young_Buc » Mon May 5, 2014 2:09 am

How does the NCAA seem more impartial than the NBA when its supposed to be the "amateur" league?
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Re: Jason Kidd fined $25K for public criticism of officals 

Post#993 » by Young_Buc » Mon May 5, 2014 2:12 am

IMAN5 wrote:
VanDamme wrote:
IMAN5 wrote:I feel like coaches getting fined is a way for a team to "donate" money to the league in return for favorable calls.


100% of the fines end up going to charities. So no.


I think many would agree that after a coach gets fined his team gets more favorable calls.


Casey should have responded he didn't. He was a matchup problem himself vs kidd.
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